girl says shes "too busy" to get to know me

[evil_tomato]

lol....

So after hitting a rough patch with my ex, i decided to get out there and find other bishes. Ive had my eye on this girl who is a HB10, she is very gorgeous, sexy, popular and has guys after her like no tomorrrow. We have each other on Facebook and have seen each other out from time to time and have said hello to one another and she seemed really friendly. I was hesitant about messaging her as i thought she wouldnt give me the time of day but i thought fu*k it so i hit her up on fb.

I just said that we always seem to notice each other but have never gotten to speak to one another and we should get to know each other, maybe go out for a coffee or something.
So she took 2 hours to reply to my message and i know she read it because it came up saying as read and she wrote back that with her busy lifestyle and rarely having time to catch up with her own friends, that she doesnt have time for anything or a social life but said she was flattered that i messaged her?
I know for a fact she has a social life because she posted selfies of her and her friends from last night at a party and is always posting about her coffee encounters during the week with her "pals".

Yes i know she was turning me down lightly, but really what a sh1tty excuse lol. I shouldnt have bothered. This whole dating game can be really discouraging. Im an attractive guy, funny, smart, have money and yet when it comes to 8's and upwards im forever getting turned down for ****ty reasons like this. Yet their ex's are all nothing spectacular either. I dont get it.

What do these b1tches want?! the only ones i seem to attract or get replies from are 6's and under. They say like attracts like but if thats the case why do i keep only attracting fuglies and fatties? and these hot bishes dont even give me the time of day?

Rant over, but still its a kick in the gut when you get rejected like this.

 

[Cremasta]

I thought she was being pretty diplomatic there. At least she came back to you.
If she unfriends you on Facebook, then you'll know she wants nothing to do with you.

 

[Vekhematu]

How many females have anything going in their life? Not many. Busy just means she would rather do any mundane activity to amuse herself besides what you want.

 

[dutchmaster]

Next her ass

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Just something to know for any future girls you ask out: if they don't want to go out with you, they'll rarely say "no." Instead, they'll give you an excuse (like the one this girl gave you) that means "no." This is because they fear being direct will hurt your feelings, bruise your ego, and cause you to commit suicide. So, they go about rejecting you in a passive way to cushion the blow. Don't ask why, it's just the way they do things. The important thing for you, though, is to know this piece of knowledge so that, going forward, when a girl gives you this excuse you'll know it's her way of rejecting you nicely. Hey, it's better than a slap in the face or a kick in the groin!

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Yes i know she was turning me down lightly, but really what a sh1tty excuse lol. I shouldnt have bothered. This whole dating game can be really discouraging. Im an attractive guy, funny, smart, have money and yet when it comes to 8's and upwards im forever getting turned down for ****ty reasons like this. Yet their ex's are all nothing spectacular either. I dont get it.

First know that 90% of the time you get rejected, its your APPROACH that the girl is rejecting, not you personally.

In your situation, your approach was beyond weak bro. Think about it.

You have a very attractive girl, who likely gets hit on all the time. To get her attention you needed to make yourself standout.

Instead you took the common, safe approach thru Facebook. I realize you likely don't have her # or any idea when you would see her again, but this is why you lost in this situation.

You should have escalated the interaction when you saw her in person, flirted & gauged her response. Then you would have something to work with...

From a sales perspective, you didn't show your prospect any value. You took the shotgun approach, "here's my product, hope you like it" approach. That rarely, if ever works.

What do these b1tches want?! the only ones i seem to attract or get replies from are 6's and under. They say like attracts like but if thats the case why do i keep only attracting fuglies and fatties? and these hot bishes dont even give me the time of day?

You need to show them you have something going for you. With the 6's & lower, they are already highly physically attracted to you, so that's doing all the heavy lifting in those scenarios.

In other words you need to improve your game; very attractive girls are USUALLY ones with low self esteem. Some quick banter style game & confidence can easily get them wet. You put this girl on a pedestal (mentally) & didn't do anything to separate yourself from the pack.









PIMP

 

[evil_tomato]

Thanks for all the replies.

Yes i should have approached her when i saw her in person but back then she had a bf and was always with him when i saw her so it would of been awkward.

The other thing is she always has guys hitting on her, trying to get in her pants and i didnt want to come across as if i was another one of those guys even though thats secretly what i wanted lol

Im sure if i were Brad Pitt, she wouldnt be "too busy" to get to know me lol, women make me laugh

 

[floydb25]

Gotta agree with the fella's. Don't assume that all the guys just want sex, and she's not into that, either. I used to think this, too, and "get to know" various hotties - because they COMPLAINED that all guys just wanted sex, and are bad boy players. Big mistake.

Truth is, a lot of these hot girls are OBSESSED with the challenge and seek those who don't want them. They're all about the thrills and sex, and couldn't care less about those who want to get to know them - because most guys ARE interested in getting to know them. They have nice guy orbiters everywhere. They also have high standards, and expect immediate (and continuous) excitement - and to be swept off their feet. Like you say, she's also very social, out-going, popular, and on the move. Naturally, it's easy for them to disregard you - and they do, quickly. They KNOW that everyone wants them, and can do all the deciding. Looks are just a prerequisite for them. Doesn't mean much, and they reject decent "hot" guys, too.

Don't buy into that infatuation-based good girl / nice guy getting to know you nonsense. As you see, it's not reality - and turns them OFF. The conservative approach with imbedded interest got you no where.

One thing you'll learn (hopefully) is that a lot of these girls are NOT nice, or of quality (contrary to what they might think) - they're actually quite stuck up and high maintenance, and not even worth getting to know. Nor do they roll that way. Many of them are all about the bad boy game.

While your approach was ****, don't assume that these bishes are special, and make them out to be some kind of prize. They do that for themselves already.

 

[jay07]

Next time you see her in person, say hello. Chat for a second than when you leave say " so you changed your mind about coffee yet?"

She sounds uninterested but if shes that hott id give it another whirl in person. You never know.

 

[PlayHer Man]

If you act like a beta you'll get treated like a beta.

All "relationship" approaches are beta --> "We should get to know each other" :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

What the hell for? All you really want to do is f*ck her right now.. THEN if you like her personality you will CONSIDER a relationship. All women know this.. so only the beta's sell the relationship because they are too scared to be direct. This is a turn off to most HB8+ women.


Allow me to break down DJ/Alpha game vs. Beta game:

Beta: Tries to make friends in hopes of getting sex later

DJ / Alpha: Goes for sex first

Beta: Tries to "build attraction" and manipulate the girl into liking him

DJ / Alpha: Boldly flirts with the girl and if she doesn't like it.. NEXT.

Beta: Analyzes the girl's every move. Waits by the phone for replies. Puts all his energy into one girl.

DJ / Alpha: Spins plates. Talks to any woman he wants to f*ck. Doesn't think much of any of them unless they push hard to sell him a relationship.

:yes:

 

[Poonani Maker]

I have a beta girl after me right Now. She's 23, and we've known each other for a year. Finally, she's like stricken with a bug for me I don't know, it just grew to this point. Yesterday...alone...she leaves 17 calls with voice messages, of course I did not answer. She was calling until 3 in the morning guys I could hear. It's really kinda scary guys. As I lay there hearing it ring for the 15th, 16th, 17th time last night/this morning it was like a horror film. It's just "not right." This girl is losing her mind, I keep telling her that I'm real busy with work, and bad weather etc etc, and she insists that I call her back through text message and that she's "on to me..." whatever..

I know what it's like to be stalked now, and it's really kinda scary, as a male even, guys, I just get the feeling that if me and this chick ever WERE to get together as bf/gf, that she'd KILL me if I ever "did her wrong" in Her mind, or if I broke off our engagement whatever. 17 unanswered calls, I kid you not. That's a record for me dudes.

 

[Jair213]

I have a beta girl after me right Now. She's 23, and we've known each other for a year. Finally, she's like stricken with a bug for me I don't know, it just grew to this point. Yesterday...alone...she leaves 17 calls with voice messages, of course I did not answer. She was calling until 3 in the morning guys I could hear. It's really kinda scary guys. As I lay there hearing it ring for the 15th, 16th, 17th time last night/this morning it was like a horror film. It's just "not right." This girl is losing her mind, I keep telling her that I'm real busy with work, and bad weather etc etc, and she insists that I call her back through text message and that she's "on to me..." whatever..

I know what it's like to be stalked now, and it's really kinda scary, as a male even, guys, I just get the feeling that if me and this chick ever WERE to get together as bf/gf, that she'd KILL me if I ever "did her wrong" in Her mind, or if I broke off our engagement whatever. 17 unanswered calls, I kid you not. That's a record for me dudes.

Show us your secret brah. Lol

 

[evil_tomato]

Its funny though because whenever im straight forward to these bishes about wanting to fu** them, they always instantly turn me down because im just "Another one of those guys whose trying to get in my panties" and that is instant rejection and they think im a creep. This is why i opted for this approach so i didnt come off so strong and "creepy"

 

[floydb25]

If you act like a beta you'll get treated like a beta.

All "relationship" approaches are beta --> "We should get to know each other" :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

What the hell for? All you really want to do is f*ck her right now.. THEN if you like her personality you will CONSIDER a relationship. All women know this.. so only the beta's sell the relationship because they are too scared to be direct. This is a turn off to most HB8+ women.


Allow me to break down DJ/Alpha game vs. Beta game:

Beta: Tries to make friends in hopes of getting sex later

DJ / Alpha: Goes for sex first

Beta: Tries to "build attraction" and manipulate the girl into liking him

DJ / Alpha: Boldly flirts with the girl and if she doesn't like it.. NEXT.

Beta: Analyzes the girl's every move. Waits by the phone for replies. Puts all his energy into one girl.

DJ / Alpha: Spins plates. Talks to any woman he wants to f*ck. Doesn't think much of any of them unless they push hard to sell him a relationship.

:yes:

Gotta agree with this. Honestly, most of the kind of hot girls the OP described are NOT into the relationship game. Yea, they date and get involved, but it's usually not the healthy, loving, quality LTR type - because it's not what they seek after. All the complaining they do about LTR's and good men are moot - because they avoid them, and complain about the same things they seek after.

If you really want to "analyze" the situation - focus on the facts, and read between the lines. You say she's very out-going, social, and receives attention from guys everywhere. Then she says she's too busy to get to know anybody, AND rejects your conservative approach. Doesn't sound like she wants to get involved with anybody to me. Other lines you'll hear from these types are "I'm not looking for a relationship" or "I'm enjoying being single". This doesn't mean you're not good enough and are getting rejected with a **** excuse. 90% of the time, they're not actually lying - it's how they operate. This doesn't mean they won't use people, string them along, etc, however. Most high class, in-demand bishes love their doormats, back-up plans, and safety nets. Be wary of that.

Anywho, she's telling you what she's about, and how she rolls. Not much else to figure out... it's all right there. She's an on the move, singled-minded girl who probably just ****s guys without getting involved. Lotta these types are like that - because they CAN be. The more options you have - the less you give a **** and want to remain tied down, or get to know anybody. Not even their "friends" mean much to them, since they have so many. These bishes are always on the go, jumping from this situation or person to the next. Their infatuation towards others isn't very long lasting, either, and they tend to lose interest once the "chase" is over. Again, not the LTR types.

With that said, PHM's approach is pretty accurate. Lotta these high class girls just want to have fun; be social, out-going, popular, and **** random guys. They're also heavily involved in the game, and want the prize and status. Don't assume or believe otherwise - when all the facts are in your face. These types are VERY picky and stuck up, and not even worth getting involved with. Hence why they always have "boyfriends" and "guy friends" - but not LTR's. They avoid that ****, and focus on the lust and thrills instead.

 

[floydb25]

Its funny though because whenever im straight forward to these bishes about wanting to fu** them, they always instantly turn me down because im just "Another one of those guys whose trying to get in my panties" and that is instant rejection and they think im a creep. This is why i opted for this approach so i didnt come off so strong and "creepy"

Well, if a girl like this digs you - they'll be trying to have sex with YOU after the first little while. But you don't want to be super aggressive with sex right off the bat. Just talk to them, and see how you vibe. Don't try to define or set up anything.

I don't have a lot of experience in approaching or maintaing interest, 'cause it was always natural. Most of the time, they approached and showed very high interest - which I annihilated in no time. :crackup:

If I did approach - it was only in the very beginning. Then they'd come up to me and start talking and flirting, and it went from there. Not a lot of effort was required. Of course, I still f'd it up like a dumbass.

Any time I went STRAIGHT for sex - even with trashy bar / party sluts - it never went anywhere. Any kind of "too forward" approach is ineffective, IME. There was always a little mingling, banter, and getting acquainted - then they'd be intrigued, start flirting, and want to know more, or whatever. Being a challenge and playing the game from there was pretty effective. But it was definitely not defined or LTR-based. I didn't "get to know them"... it was pretty random and casual, and they seem to dig that... especially if you appear social, out-going, popular, and in-demand yourself. Not just hanging around and showing all this interest.

Of course, once I DID show interest, reciprocate, etc - they lost all their interest. They were definitely all about the chase, challenge, uncertainty, status, and prize mentality. Lotta these types are, and you learn these patterns after a while. It's all short-term intrigue and thrills, and they LOVE bad boys and players who provide it. They have that balance down - where they leave them wanting more, coming and going as they please, etc. Lotta times, the girls approach THEM.

 

[dutchmaster]

Gotta agree with this. Honestly, most of the kind of hot girls the OP described are NOT into the relationship game. Yea, they date and get involved, but it's usually not the healthy, loving, quality LTR type - because it's not what they seek after. All the complaining they do about LTR's and good men are moot - because they avoid them, and complain about the same things they seek after.

If you really want to "analyze" the situation - focus on the facts, and read between the lines. You say she's very out-going, social, and receives attention from guys everywhere. Then she says she's too busy to get to know anybody, AND rejects your conservative approach. Doesn't sound like she wants to get involved with anybody to me. Other lines you'll hear from these types are "I'm not looking for a relationship" or "I'm enjoying being single". This doesn't mean you're not good enough and are getting rejected with a **** excuse. 90% of the time, they're not actually lying - it's how they operate. This doesn't mean they won't use people, string them along, etc, however. Most high class, in-demand bishes love their doormats, back-up plans, and safety nets. Be wary of that.

Anywho, she's telling you what she's about, and how she rolls. Not much else to figure out... it's all right there. She's an on the move, singled-minded girl who probably just ****s guys without getting involved. Lotta these types are like that - because they CAN be. The more options you have - the less you give a **** and want to remain tied down, or get to know anybody. Not even their "friends" mean much to them, since they have so many. These bishes are always on the go, jumping from this situation or person to the next. Their infatuation towards others isn't very long lasting, either, and they tend to lose interest once the "chase" is over. Again, not the LTR types.

With that said, PHM's approach is pretty accurate. Lotta these high class girls just want to have fun; be social, out-going, popular, and **** random guys. They're also heavily involved in the game, and want the prize and status. Don't assume or believe otherwise - when all the facts are in your face. These types are VERY picky and stuck up, and not even worth getting involved with. Hence why they always have "boyfriends" and "guy friends" - but not LTR's. They avoid that ****, and focus on the lust and thrills instead.

Feel like I'm reading a bio about myself

 

[Zarky]

the only ones i seem to attract or get replies from are 6's and under. They say like attracts like but if thats the case why do i keep only attracting fuglies and fatties?

'Cause you're a 6. Simple as that. If you're a 6 you're not going to be getting 10s. Not that hard to understand, unless you'd prefer to continue deluding yourself.

I realized I was nothing special years ago. And frankly, I believe the world would be a far better place if most people understood that they're no better than average, always have been, always will be.

 

[nismo-4]

She's rejecting you because you were being beta. Too busy my ass.

Women are either saying yes or no to you. AFAIC, a "maybe" answer, for all intents and purposes is designated as a "no." F**k mixed signals.

Case closed. Move on.