girl lies then begs for forgiveness

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Could use some feedback on this one.

One of my fb's who tells everyone that I'm her boyfriend(since I met her family, friends, etc) got caught lying to me this weekend. She wanted me to come over, but told me she wouldn't be home for a few hours. She wanted me to come around midnight, but told me she was still at her friends house and hadn't left yet. Something seemed kind of wierd so I went over there anyway and to my amazement her car was there with another parked beside it.

So I rang the doorbell, text her, called her to no avail. It was clear she was inside since her bedroom tv and living room lights were on. Since she was playing games I simply sent her a text..

"Nice knowing ya, cya"

Just as I was leaving the area a few mins later she calls back telling me to come back. So like a dummy I went back and noticed the other car was gone. I asked her about it and at first she denied anyone else was there throwing every lie in the book to my face. After I pretty much slammed her and told her she was lying she finally told me the truth, it was an old friend and she was afraid what my reaction would be (DUH)

What happened afterwards I still can't believe I allowed this to happen, she literally traps me in the house when I was trying to leave begging and pleading for a second chance? I got her to do a bunch of crazy crap like text/call the other dude in front of me proclaiming she was taken and could only be friends. She also showed me the text he sent her after he left evidently according to the texts he was pissed off because she kicked him out in favor of me and he also said "Nice knowin ya" lol.

Anyways, I'm still trying to leave but she's blocking the door so I can't really escape her endless pleading, begging and crying for nearly 6 straight hours. She swears they were just friends, yet had a romantic past and she hadn't seen him for a while.

Mind you, I'm having a blast with this because I only see her as a piece of a** whereas she thinks I'm her bf. I pretty much made her bury this other guy in memory and even ended up sexin her in the bedroom.(She was pretty tight so maybe she wasn't lying about doing this other guy?)

Afterwards I got up to get dressed to leave and she started begging, crying, blockade all over again! I didn't end up leaving until 11am or so and we didn't get any sleep. It's quite pathetic.

If you've managed to read this, I'd like to know what would you do in this type of situation? She's low maintenance lay for me and to be honest, I don't care if she screws other dudes or not I just don't like being lied to.

Am I wrong for "accepting" her apology for being dishonest with me? I just want the tail afterall.
 

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I wouldn't of given a sh!t since she's just a fvck buddy which means she can fvck whoever else she wants.

I don't find what you did in any way bad though, I mean she was calling you her boyfriend so its pretty damn funny to me that you pranked her and made her do all that sh!t like you were actually believing you were her boyfriend too.

Her own stupidity got her in this situation lol.
 

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Yeah dude, I couldn't believe she was doing everything I told her too. She was very hesistant about texting and calling tho ..especially since I was telling her what to say. I think it was her nerves because she had lied so much.

Something I did learn from this is that even tho she's a h0 and fvcks around when I'm supposedly her "boyfriend" I'm her number 1 and she jeopardized another pairing to keep me around. I must be hittin it right eh :)
 

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yea its kind of a gray area when it comse to FBs seeing others on the side. Most chicks will lie so they don't appear slutty and I would lie so that I don't make anyone unnecessarily jealous.

I think you took the wrong step and punished her for talking to the guy as opposed to punishing her for lying. Have you set out the guidelines to let her know that you are not exclusive. I let girls say whatever they want to other people as long as they know that they 'might' not be the only girl I'm seeing. You see how crazy and emotional she got when she thought she lost you? Imagine what will happen if she catches you with another chick...
 

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So like a dummy I went back and noticed the other car was gone. I asked her about it and at first she denied anyone else was there throwing every lie in the book to my face. After I pretty much slammed her and told her she was lying she finally told me the truth
I only see her as a piece of a**
Does not compute...

Look, whether or not you realize/admit it or not, you have some type of feelings for this girl. Even if you just wanted to hit something that night, you wouldn't have pressed so hard for her to fess up about the other guy THEN force her to text him.

That said, she will more than likely fcuk this other guy again as she has b4. Trust me, she likely looks at you as an FB as well. She was pleading for you to stay with that guys *** stuck between her teeth. Believe it.
 

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As much as you say you don't care, deep down your ego took a hit--and why not?? She lied to you so she could hook up with another dude instead!!

You are setting yourself up for trouble--her texting the other guy doesn't mean ANYTHING, except that she'll be more careful about getting caught next time she calls him. Most likely, she's already texted him and told him to disregard the messages she sent for your benefit. She's not trustworthy, and to top it off, she now knows you'll forgive her if she begs.

"Something I did learn from this is that even tho she's a h0 and fvcks around when I'm supposedly her "boyfriend" I'm her number 1 and she jeopardized another pairing to keep me around. I must be hittin it right eh"

^^Wrong. She jeopardized her "relationship" with YOU for another pairing.

Cut her off. She's not trustworthy, and all this speculation on whether or not she's hooking up with other dudes is going to lead to a greater ego investment on your part.

FB relationships with a girl you don't like are really a huge waste of time and energy. Even worse, they can prevent you from hooking up with chicks you DO like. Make it a one time thing or don't do it at all.
 

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ZhaoYun said:
If you've managed to read this, I'd like to know what would you do in this type of situation? She's low maintenance lay for me and to be honest, I don't care if she screws other dudes or not I just don't like being lied to.
I really like how you handled the situation man, I don't think you need any advice here on this issue. You got a really good game going and I think you scared this b1tch stright to a point where she would do whatever you want.

Yes she is a ho' but it sounds to me like you are a pimp who knows what he is doing so it kinda works out.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
FB relationships with a girl you don't like are really a huge waste of time and energy. Even worse, they can prevent you from hooking up with chicks you DO like. Make it a one time thing or don't do it at all.
This is probably the best advice ever given on this site.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
As much as you say you don't care, deep down your ego took a hit--and why not?? She lied to you so she could hook up with another dude instead!!
That's true. However, I wonder why she would waste her time begging for me to stay and tell the other guy to hit the bricks? He was pissed off that she kicked him out because he knew I was coming back.


Cut her off. She's not trustworthy, and all this speculation on whether or not she's hooking up with other dudes is going to lead to a greater ego investment on your part.
Instead of wasting a great deal of my time on her, I've decided to only hook up with her when she contacts me directly and I'm not occupied. That way I still get what I want and I could give a fvck all what she does, as long as I get mine :)

FB relationships with a girl you don't like are really a huge waste of time and energy. Even worse, they can prevent you from hooking up with chicks you DO like. Make it a one time thing or don't do it at all.
Meh, I kind of like her but not enough to hop into a LTR with her or anything. I allow her to believe she's my "girlfriend" because she already insisted she wanted more. Even when I caught her I let her know we could have just been fwb's but she didn't go for it claiming to have deeper feelings for me so she can think that all she wants.

It was kind of easy to forget about this since I'm doing the same thing to other women atm. Except she's the only one that's not cool just hooking up for sex. She spends money on me, takes me out to eat, movies, etc..

Ugh, I feel like one of them using her for money.
 

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Just goes to show..

Women pass dishonesty off as a minor offense. In fact, they don't even see their lie as a LIE. Instead, they embellish the situation so much that they even fool themselves into believing that they are not lying.

Men on the other hand hold dishonesty to a very low level on the totem pole. You lie to another person and you are a piece of crap. Our honor is part of what makes us men.

I'm glad that this girl is FB material because there is no reason that she should be anything else. I'm sure she lies to all her other guys when shes with you as well and just plays it off as nothing.

Blows for her because it does seem like she likes you a lot. Unfortunately, like many young women she is confused.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
FB relationships with a girl you don't like are really a huge waste of time and energy. Even worse, they can prevent you from hooking up with chicks you DO like. Make it a one time thing or don't do it at all.
So save FB relationships for girls you really like? If you really like her, why would she be FB status? FB status denotes that you two aren't compatible/ready to date. Next, how does casual sex prevent other hook ups? Being in a RELATIONSHIP prevents hooking up with other chicks but being FWB does no such thing. Is today opposite day or something...
 

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ZhaoYun said:
If you've managed to read this, I'd like to know what would you do in this type of situation? She's low maintenance lay for me and to be honest, I don't care if she screws other dudes or not I just don't like being lied to.
You don't mind your 3 of your best friends sleep with her, touch her, get inside of her, as long as she tells you the truth? "Hey ZhaoYun, your best friend Bob was inside of me today...lets go shopping!"

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lots of drama for a FB relationship. She cares a lot and you care a lot. I would start by being honest about what you REALLY have together because it's quite obvious there is much more than FB here. if she really was just FB you wouldn't care what she did and who she did but you do. fb relationships tend to be the most dysfunctional because both parties pretend with a wink and a nod that they don't care. That could not be further from the truth.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You don't mind your 3 of your best friends sleep with her, touch her, get inside of her, as long as she tells you the truth? "Hey ZhaoYun, your best friend Bob was inside of me today...lets go shopping!"

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I'd freakin lose my mind!!!! :trouble: :trouble: But as far as how you handled it, not bad....personally i would've left when i saw the other car wasn't on the street.

You don't need the drama. Next her!!!
 

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To MicrophoneFiend: FB relationships are not non-progressive arrangements, no matter how upfront either of the partners are. Almost always, the girl ends up wanting more. It is not natural for an attractive woman to hook up with a guy multiple times and not want a relationship--women do not separate sex and love like we do. Therefore, a pure FB relationship can not continue indefinitely without complications. If you're lucky, the girl will eventually just tell you to leave her alone if you won't commit. If you're not, your FB will try to sabotage your life by confronting other girls you're dating, showing up at your place randomly to try to "catch" you with other girls, harassing you by phone, etc. All that trouble for a girl you just wanted to use as a masturbation aid? No thanks!!

If you enter into a FB relationship, you may THINK you are leaving your options open, but you're still limiting yourself. Your FB is going to eventually see you as a BF (funny how all you need to do is switch the order of the acronym) and demand more and more of your time, eventually growing bitter. Similarly, if you are dating a girl that isn't a slvt and she finds out you're nailing another girl on the side, she will not be pleased.

You can tell a girl you don't want a relationship till you're blue in the face, but as long as you're banging her she's gonna disregard this.

The only situation in which a FB relationship truly works is if distance or some other condition prevents you from seeing your partner more than a couple times a year.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You don't mind your 3 of your best friends sleep with her, touch her, get inside of her, as long as she tells you the truth? "Hey ZhaoYun, your best friend Bob was inside of me today...lets go shopping!"

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Priceless!

Persistent Exaction you made some great points. Ever since that night she's been very persistent in wanting to show me how much she cares. The night after her fvck up she came over to my place and gave me head for a long time and we had great sex. The day after that she took me to the movies and dinner her treat and wants to meet again sometime this week for drinks and go to amusement park.

All of this kind of makes me feel like a jerk. This chick obviously wants more, but I don't think I could ever trust her. Not after the lying and stuff. The more I allow this to go on the more likely I am to fall for her, so I'll probably have to just gtfo.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
To MicrophoneFiend: FB relationships are not non-progressive arrangements, no matter how upfront either of the partners are. Almost always, the girl ends up wanting more.
Being that we are great catches, I agree that this can happen. This is where relationship management comes into play. If you let her know beforehand of situations where a girl got possessive and you had to cut her loose, then she KNOWS she is treading on thin ice when she makes the play for exclusivity and will get EJECTED as a result. Let her know she can either have a piece of the pie or she can starve to death. If jealousy gets in the way, one and done her.

If this does happen then you let her know before hand It is not natural for an attractive woman to hook up with a guy multiple times and not want a relationship--women do not separate sex and love like we do. Therefore, a pure FB relationship can not continue indefinitely without complications.
If not indefinitely, as long as necessary/possible then. If she wants to take things further 3 years down the road at least we had three good years of fun before I part ways with her, right. Better to have had a FB and lost than to have never had a FB at all. I jest I jest.

If you're lucky, the girl will eventually just tell you to leave her alone if you won't commit. If you're not, your FB will try to sabotage your life by confronting other girls you're dating, showing up at your place randomly to try to "catch" you with other girls, harassing you by phone, etc. All that trouble for a girl you just wanted to use as a masturbation aid? No thanks!!
Screen your girls for crazy/possessive behaviour beforehand. That doesn't mean it won't show up, but chances are it will come much much later on in the relationship

If you enter into a FB relationship, you may THINK you are leaving your options open, but you're still limiting yourself. Your FB is going to eventually see you as a BF (funny how all you need to do is switch the order of the acronym) and demand more and more of your time, eventually growing bitter. Similarly, if you are dating a girl that isn't a slvt and she finds out you're nailing another girl on the side, she will not be pleased.
FB backwards = BF!!! It all makes sense now!!! Lol, but seriously:
a) If a chick gets possessive or starts to see you as a BF and demand your time, put her in her place. Tell her to cut it out or lose a good thing. One and done her. Remember she is just FB status and easily replacable (right?) so why would you stand for any dissent?
b) IMO, if you show enough value and connect on a deeper, more personal leve, any chick will stay with you as a result. Women (and men) would rather share a winner than have a loser all to themselves. Spinning plates at its most basic form

You can tell a girl you don't want a relationship till you're blue in the face, but as long as you're banging her she's gonna disregard this.

The only situation in which a FB relationship truly works is if distance or some other condition prevents you from seeing your partner more than a couple times a year.
IF she is a FB you don't need to see her other than to fvck or waste time. No dinner dates, no cuddling afterwards, no romantic getaways, etc. Save that for your quality relationships. Don't treat your FB like your GF and they are less likely to get confused. I'm not saying it won't happen but it does decrease the chances
 
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