KontrollerX said:
A mature man either removes a liar from his life or transitions the liar to mere fvck buddy status.
Whether he makes it clear to her that her status with him has changed or not is irrelevant.
As she has lied to you on a huge matter so no longer merits or deserves your being honest with her about anything.
So to stress the point and make myself as clear as I possibly can a mature man either removes the liar from his life or transitions her to fvck buddy status and the one thing he never does again is invest in her for any real form of relationship involving loyalty, emotions and mutual respect but if his feelings are too strong for her and he cannot control them and believes he will fall into a relationship with her he should remove himself from the relationship immediately.
He simply does not have sufficient emotional control of himself to regard her as a mere fvck buddy without getting attached.
I don't believe in fixing relationships. Working through reasonable communication problems yes, trying to fix unfixable things like lying no.
Once a line is crossed through incredible disrespect, disloyalty or deceit the relationship is simply broken beyond repair.
THis is one of the most important post on this entire board.
If all men integrated this advice into their way of dealing with bad behavior from women we would eliminate 95% of all the heartache and heartbreak.
We men are not equipped to deal with compulsive liars,cheaters and personality disordered women because of our upbringing which taught us that women are carers and nurturers and all things "sugar and spice" - this can easily transform itself into a belief that women are always innocent, kind-hearted , honest and caring . Of course this plays into women illusions about themselves too.
It only takes ONE relationship with a woman who lies , cheats and manipulates to shatter this fantasy and toss a man into a sea of doubt anger and confusion. .
Kontroller's post flies in the face of conventional counseling wisdom which preaches "communication" and "conflict resolution" ,all of which lean in favor of SOs who are acting badly because they get second chances and third chances and so on..
However - my experience tells me that liars will always lie, and cheaters will always cheat- it is what they do..
Kontroler is right and the counseling profession is wrong.
I am iffy about a woman who lies about her age- women have been secretive about that subect for eons. It is like being late for a date - women do both of these things because it has always been OK for them to do so.
No sure whether this 'age lie' is a dealbreaker all by itself.. IF she lies about other aspects too then DUMP her for sure.
Nowadays I look for "the patterns" over time..