Girl in Philly down to meet, do I make the trip on NYE?

[BPH]

I didn't even realize there were more replies to this thread. It doesn't notify me unless somebody quotes me, either way, I'm reading them now.

So you see how this doesn't add up? You have no idea how women work so you can't even FAKE a believable story LOL.

Mark Twain has a quote: "Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; truth isn't."

I am not writing an airtight, bulletproof story that holds up to scrutiny - I'm writing what happened. What conversations she might've had with her friend, why she was willing to meet up with a stranger in a foreign country, etc are not within my knowledge or concern. I describe my involvement.

I got into this at a young age because I wanted to be able to choose the women I slept with - I watched my friends get into LTRs and wait several years to have sex with aggressively average women a handful of times and knew I did NOT want that for myself. I've been cold approaching and sleeping around for 15 years now...15 years. With that much experience under my belt, I'd be more surprised if I WASN'T this good with women by now. I didn't have a masculine role model, mentor, or any friends in my circle who were sleeping with the hot girls in school - this was a decade and a half of approach anxiety exposure therapy in the purest form.

As for @SW15 's point about these things being possible if I look like a Chad, I'd probably say I'm about a high 7 or low 8 out of 10. I'm quite good-looking, but I don't have a Greek god jawline, I'm not super tall, I don't have piercing blue eyes - I don't think I'm anything special, and a lot of how I look comes from conscious decision-making. I work out 4x per week and have maintained a very strict diet for 6 or so years now (previously I was doing intermittent fasting). I've had braces and I brush my damn teeth. I had LASIK to correct my nearsightedness so I didn't have to wear glasses. I just haven't shown myself on this forum because I don't know how much I'd want to be tied to it, considering how cringe my growth journal was in the early parts.

Living at home with my parents and making less than $40,000 per year isn't such a negative that it outweighs all the positives I just listed.

Plus, a lot of guys don't know how to talk to or behave around women at all. A common theme with almost every plate or FWB I've been with is the horror stories of past crushes, exes, or stalkers saying/doing the weirdest sh** - so much so that I feel normal by comparison.

I'm pretty lethal if I get alone time with a girl who is even remotely interested. By now, I should be.

The logistics are not in your favor, I prefer to go on "NYE" dates as I find those tend to be easier to close if the girl is going out with you the whole time. In past experiences, it just makes it easier. However trying to meet a woman who is only in town but with friends sounds like you're just an option at best instead of being a priority

I agree, but I've never managed to coordinate that. I would imagine that's something easier to do with somebody I'm already sleeping with, rather than somebody new since they'll probably want to bring their friends and make it a whole event.

I don't know. My few NYE experiences where my buddies and I put in actual effort usually ended up being typical sausagefests where any attractive girl was sectioned off at some VIP table with her friends, away from the riff-raff.

 

[SW15]

As for @SW15 's point about these things being possible if I look like a Chad, I'd probably say I'm about a high 7 or low 8 out of 10. I'm quite good-looking, but I don't have a Greek god jawline, I'm not super tall, I don't have piercing blue eyes - I don't think I'm anything special, and a lot of how I look comes from conscious decision-making. I work out 4x per week and have maintained a very strict diet for 6 or so years now (previously I was doing intermittent fasting). I've had braces and I brush my damn teeth. I had LASIK to correct my nearsightedness so I didn't have to wear glasses. I just haven't shown myself on this forum because I don't know how much I'd want to be tied to it, considering how cringe my growth journal was in the early parts.

Living at home with my parents and making less than $40,000 per year isn't such a negative that it outweighs all the positives I just listed.

You could be in the range of an 8, which would be a borderline top tier man on looks.

Your 6'0" height is helpful. Many women, especially USA White women, tend to think that 6'0" is the threshold height for a man being desirable.

Your diet and exercise is on point.

Looks > Money. You've proven that though it is time to get a roommate and move out. Women start to judge men more on money in their 30s.

I got into this at a young age because I wanted to be able to choose the women I slept with - I watched my friends get into LTRs and wait several years to have sex with aggressively average women a handful of times and knew I did NOT want that for myself. I've been cold approaching and sleeping around for 15 years now...15 years. With that much experience under my belt, I'd be more surprised if I WASN'T this good with women by now.

You wanted more variety and more access to options. You didn't want to settle for 1-2 social circle generated girlfriends that you could have gotten with less grief and frustrations. You aspired for more and were willing to put up with the downsides of approaching strangers or swiping on apps.

I didn't have a masculine role model, mentor, or any friends in my circle who were sleeping with the hot girls in school - this was a decade and a half of approach anxiety exposure therapy in the purest form.

I didn't have any male relatives who held red pill views on romantic relationships either.

My few NYE experiences where my buddies and I put in actual effort usually ended up being typical sausagefests where any attractive girl was sectioned off at some VIP table with her friends, away from the riff-raff.

There are so many nightlife venue experiences that are sausagefests. Then again, the swipe apps are also sausage fests.