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She's frustrated with you because she's sending you signals that she wants you to ask her out and you're ignoring them.

Better ask her out quick because once a girl gets frustrated from you not picking up on her signals it will go downhill fast if you don't act.
 

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Why is that they seem to resent you for not making a move though? I've never understood that. Why do they take it so personally?
 

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Originally posted by Tazman
Why is that they seem to resent you for not making a move though? I've never understood that. Why do they take it so personally?
That's simple...she's telling you that she is interested in you and by not responding it's a form of rejection. If a girl rejects you don't you feel a little bit resentful? Of course you do...we all see that on here every day when guys post about some girl that shot them down or whatever. Girls are no different in this respect.
 

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Ask her out and try to fvuck close!

ASAP...


I'd bet a dollor to donuts she would let you fvck



Sayno.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
That's simple...she's telling you that she is interested in you and by not responding it's a form of rejection...
That's it, but I think this one went one step further and could be expanded on.

If I understand the dance right, usually the woman shows she is open to being approached. That's her job. Approach her if she hasn't sent signals and you irritate her, approach her after she's sent signals and she makes it smooth for you.

It's the guy's job to approach. If nothing happens no one is publicly embarrassed or humiliated. Usually.

Her signals to you can be subtle or somewhat obvious, happens quickly and can have a short life span. But the longer she leaves it open, the more of a rejection it becomes, especially if others in the common social circle are aware of it. And if she really wanted you and sent multiple green lights your way over time (like weeks and months), at some point it she'll get angry and take it as an insult.

Now if she even lays herself way out there by taking over your job of approaching, the lack of response or rejection becomes very humiliating and insulting.

She does what any reasonably healthy, stable person does. Rejection and hurt turns to self examination which turns to feeling insulted and, in turn, turns to rejecting you.

Rejection and hurt: "Am I a dog? Did I do something wrong?" she asks.

She may torment herself with this for awhile but have a healthy reaction of "wait a minute, I'm not a dog and I didn't do anything wrong!"

She then asks, "so what happened?"

Maybe she'll reason it out, maybe not, but she'll do two things: 1)she'll take it as a rejection and insult (emphasis insult), and 2) she'll self-affirm that she is hot (or reasonably so), and obviously your not man enough for her.

That leaves you in the tank, but there you go.

She may not step through those actual thoughts, it's more like she'll make those emotional gear shifts using whatever thoughts pass through her head as she recovers and gets back in the race.

And it's perfectly normal, perfectly healthy (If Corolla did contribute one useful thing, it would be that phrase..) Guys do their own form of that recovery ("fvcking bytch, she's just a fat hog...must be a dyke..." etc.)

and, ah, don't ask how I learned this... :nervous:
 

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Red is right on the money in his break down of what went on.

If you want ANY shot with this girl you need to do something to make her forget about how hurt, angry and insulted she's feeling. You might not be able to do that at this point.
 

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the heck did I do now? So I have blown it now because I didnt make a move?

flip you guys are giving me two different answers. First I acted AFC and all needy and stuff, and now that I didnt show any interest?

If you want ANY shot with this girl you need to do something to make her forget about how hurt, angry and insulted she's feeling. You might not be able to do that at this point.
What about my feelings when she told me "nah I am chillin with my bf"?
 

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just kidding about the my feelings part.

Why do you girls have to be so complicated?
 

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If you want ANY shot with this girl you need to do something to make her forget about how hurt, angry and insulted she's feeling
can I write her a poem or give her some flowers?:D
 

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Dude, I've never seen so many green lights.

You should've been BLINDED by the intensity of the green fricking traffic light in your face!

You didn't have to bust her balls or anything of the sort. That's attract-phase stuff. It's not necessary for where you were with her.

All you needed to do was have some confident rapport a la: "let's get together and shed our clothing, RIGHT NOW."

You acted all wavering and unsure. When you asked what she's doing and she said "Nothing", you should'a just said,

"Great. I'll be over in 5."

Or WHATEVER. You should've LED the INTERACTION to _SOMETHING_.

You were just sort of talking "at" her with no particular plan in mind, like you needed still another green light.

___DONT FEEL BAD___

I do this stupid crap all the time. It's a case of taking challenge too far.

Rejection isn't challenging. It just sucks.
 

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man, screwing up with girls is bad enough by itself. but screwing up when a girls ASKS YOU for YOUR NUMBER is rough. hopefully she's not that hot.
 

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Answer this though, if you don't approach a girl who is giving you signals, why can't she just let it go and behave "normal" around you? If I strike out when approaching a girl, I won't dislike her unless she was rude about it. Sure, rejection hurts, but I won't resent her unless she was playing stupid games with me like leading me on. The women I've passed on decided they were going to be rude by behaving as if I did something intentionally to hurt them.
 

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Most let go. You'll miss more signals than you'll pick up, and nothing comes of it.

Don't sweat it when you get made out to be the bad guy. After awhile it's just an annoyance. You can't really fight it. Mostly it's people with some issues, or some AFC's GF is attracted to you and makes moves and is discovered, and you get blamed (she's gotta save herself somehow...) Not much you can do. I don't even bother.

Guys do the same thing. Women can go on for days how we do similar. Witness the desperate dance of the AFC...
 

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so does she actually have a bf?

just came back from work. She saw me and looked at me. I looked at her and just turned away. Later on when I walked past her shop again she was staring again, so I said hi. She gave me a hello. I didnt go over and have a conversation. I was with my mate. After a while me and my mate came back ( we were running around the airport trying to have a look at Jessica Alba who was flying out ) and she was sitting outside my mates store. So I sat down beside her and just asked how she was doing and stuff. The conversation was a bit dry and she seemed a bit disinterested. She asked me if I had called her previous night. I said no ( I did call her and I was drunk off my face ).

Later on I just started texting her and just having a bit of fun and started goin on about how she should cook me dinner the next night. She insisted it should be me. I laughed and said it should be the woman cooking for the man. She said she already had a man. I replied well she can cook for two. She replied yeah her and her bf. Then I said I guess I will just go to Burger king and eat my dinner there. She replied She will have a no2 combo with onion rings... You get the point.

Shes quite hot, I mean great ass and legs. The other guys at work think shes quite hot. Some have seen her outside her uniform and say shes a babe. Not that it matters to me cos pvssy is pvssy is pvssy!! nah just joking
 

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i would not have stopped and talked to her.....

i would still be looking for Jessica Alba.....:woo:

it's all about priorities :p


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“Many girls merely upgrade their boyfriends and never become single “
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Originally posted by Deadly_Assassin
so does she actually have a bf?...
That's beside the point here.

Young women will:

.....1) always have a bf;
.....2) appear to have a bf; or
.....3) are being chased so much they don't need to appear to have one.

I forget if it's discussed in the bible much or not, but essentially there is a pretty heavy, unstated social expectation that young women have BFs - that is, they are attractive and normal and not a loser and proof of that is they can attract and have a BF.

To accomplish this they have a number of options, and will use one or more of them:

a) Learn to attract and keep a BF; she may or may not care much for him, but she'll be picking up and assiduously practicing skills on "relationship management".

b) Learn to keep a BF and keep him dangling until they find something better. This is when relationship management is used to become a sustainable exercise. Witness the girl who will always have a BF since the age of 15. Or witness the girl who will have a BF but keep a few hopeful AFCs on the back burner. Or witness the girl who will set up the next guy before ditching the current BF (the monkey swingers, right?)

c) If she can't get one at the moment, she will learn to fudge the picture and make it indeterminate to others if she has or doesn't have one, or make it appear that she does have one. This is very common and explains why young women learn early how to use the AFC to her advantage for this. We've all been that guy many times (and not known it - blinded by pvssy, being "honorable" or a good friend, etc...)

Side note: when I've - seriously - thought of a certain woman or another as just a friend, she took it as an insult and rejection of a sorts. It was a sexual rejection. Nothing was ever stated: I knew it and they knew it after a little while. Rejection, hurt, insult, deal with it - that was the progression they went through, all unstated. Funny how I never really examined that much before.

d) If you're so hot you have many guys chasing you, you have an embarrassment of riches and can be very selective (read: you are high quality) and don't need to actually have a BF. You'll find that these women will either subtly or not subtly let others in their vacinity and social circle know about this. Some women may not be this hot but will adopt an ongoing PR strategy of advertising that they are (I've seen this alot).

Before capping on women for this, remember guys do the same thing and often with less finesse -- bragging about what they've hit, slamming and denigrating the chicks the approach them to other guys (i.e., he's high quality and who does that 8.5 bytch think she is approaching him anyway?)

So, does she have a BF?

She may, and she may not.

She'll play this to her advantage for her needs at the moment.

And your clarification is not one of her needs. On occasions, though, she may decide to use clarification for strategic advantage - like deepening a relationship with you. Maybe that view is too machiavellian and jaundiced - ? Some. Sure, I've seen it. But then if she wants a deeper relationship with you, being honest and sharing is a natural step in that. Something in your gut may let you know which it is.

If she wants to trade up for you and has a BF, she'll keep it hidden. If she wants to get the point across to you she isn't a loser and is in demand, she'll reveal she has a BF or make it appear she does (like if she wants you to see her value, or if she needs to recover her pride and not let you think, like, she really wanted or needed you...)

You won't really be able to tell, even if you conduct an investigation and check with her friends (not recommended - you'll get hung up on this unnecessarily and it'll get back to her.)

So she may, and it may not matter: she's keeping BF in a holding pattern while waiting to trade up for what she wants (you, for example). She may decide at any moment you're not worth trading up for. So she'll trot him back out as needed to control the speed of it, or to end it with you at her convenience.

You just have to read the signals, decide if you want her or not and make a move. Keep reading the signals and be ready to let it go if she gives off that she's no longer interested and wants to stop.

She'll handle the BF if there is one. This is part of relationship management, remember? She'll be looking for assurance that she's got a good thing with you before arranging the breakup with the BF. How they do this is enough for another thread, another time...
 
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D_A: too much theory and analyzing going on here. You need to digest this, right, but you're in the middle of the game in real time, and no one is calling a timeout to let you get up to speed.

Whether anything works or not here, you now have enough PRIMARY EXPERIENCE and explanations from all of us here to draw lessons from it years later. You'll see this primary experience as priceless for that.

But the game is still on and you want her.

She's been rejected of a sorts but remains interested. But now she's doubly cautious.

No more "I turned away" -- ! You established all you're gonna establish with being cool, hard to get, a challenge. Now it may only work against you for reasons stated above.

At this point she needs positive feedback and assurance.

Do that by engaging her and getting it back to where she is comfortable and having fun around you again.
Smile when you see her.
Talk with her. Hang out with her at times (you've made steps for this, I see.)

And begin to escalate it.

Tease her.
Make her laugh.
Engage with her outside of work.

Goal: make any time spent with you loads of fun.

Sure, you can game her occasionally, but save that for after you've re-hooked her.

You can do this without being an afc about it, no doubt.

The point is -- save the analyzing for later, you'll have plenty of time for it. Now you make positive moves for her. Get her comfortable around you again, make if loads of fun always, and you'll get past these early misteps.
 

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^^^ wow awesome post TesuqueRed

you should post this in the tips section as well its gold :)

Quote: Pook
“Many girls merely upgrade their boyfriends and never become single “

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Very, VERY informative! Explains a lot, and makes me frustrated at the same time because it all seems so ridiculous, but it's part of the "game" I guess.
 

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From experience a girl who has high interest in you will not keep mentioning her boyfriend over and over again.

This situation is like eating noodles with a spoon. Is there only one hot girl in your area?


Kaine
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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