Girl agreed for a date and flaked

[Masculinity]

On Friday I met a girl in a club. Spend and two hours with her talking. During the talks I did a lot of kino (wrapping my hand around her, touching legs and face) but no make out. We exchanged numbers.

At Monday I have following sms exchange:
Me (9:01): Hi Martha, How was your weekend? /Geek
Martha(9:06): Hi Geek, It was ok, How was yours?
Me(9:36): good, maybe You want to grab some coffee and tell me about it?
Her(9:47): I want to. I love coffee

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Me (9:47): Tommorow at 18?
Her(9:51): I would preffer at 17
Me(9:51): ok, let's meet at 17 on X-Y crossing
Her(9:51): I don't know what's located there and I won't manage at 17. Lets meet at coffe shop in A mall or B.
Me(9:59): A mall is only about 500 meters from X. Let's meet at X-Z crossing. It's nice weather and it will be much more pleasant outdoors.
Her (10:01): I don't know this city that well so I don't want to find crossings. So maybe we meet at the C park. It's near to E.
Me: (10:05): ok, let's meet at park at 17
Her(10:05): Ok. See You!
Her (11:20): I won't meet you. Best wishes.

So I do not really understand why she flaked after about 90 minutes without any reason. For me it's like she suddenly changed her mind. Also I would like to know whether there something I can do so she changes her mind.

A lot of women have a hard time making and committing to decisions. Move on. I would also not ask for approval in your invitation. Instead of saying "do you want to xyz," say "leta do xyz at abc. What time is better for you, a or b?" Assume the sale and lead. It looked like she was calling the shots.

 

[dude99]

On Friday I met a girl in a club. Spend and two hours with her talking. During the talks I did a lot of kino (wrapping my hand around her, touching legs and face) but no make out. We exchanged numbers.

At Monday I have following sms exchange:
Me (9:01): Hi Martha, How was your weekend? /Geek
Martha(9:06): Hi Geek, It was ok, How was yours?
Me(9:36): good, maybe You want to grab some coffee and tell me about it?
Her(9:47): I want to. I love coffee

.
Me (9:47): Tommorow at 18?
Her(9:51): I would preffer at 17
Me(9:51): ok, let's meet at 17 on X-Y crossing
Her(9:51): I don't know what's located there and I won't manage at 17. Lets meet at coffe shop in A mall or B.
Me(9:59): A mall is only about 500 meters from X. Let's meet at X-Z crossing. It's nice weather and it will be much more pleasant outdoors.
Her (10:01): I don't know this city that well so I don't want to find crossings. So maybe we meet at the C park. It's near to E.
Me: (10:05): ok, let's meet at park at 17
Her(10:05): Ok. See You!
Her (11:20): I won't meet you. Best wishes.

So I do not really understand why she flaked after about 90 minutes without any reason. For me it's like she suddenly changed her mind. Also I would like to know whether there something I can do so she changes her mind.

She got another offer. Liked that one better. Her interest was pretty low by how she tap danced around your suggestions.

When she was huming and hawing and not committing to a time and place you should have just said "ok next time." But you were way to willing to change.

Also why did she flake? Because girls find it easier to agree and cancel than it is to just say no.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Flaking isn't always low interest. Sometimes it's a sh*t test, and something it's her period or she feels ugly or insecure that day. Other times she is playing hard to get.

Women don't think like us. They sh*t test or run away when they feel insecure. Guys do the opposite and pursue harder or act nicer.

Don't operate based on the woman's interest level. Operate based on yours. You are the high value catch!

I believe this guy knows what he's talking about.

What I've been doing for a long time, is make things simple and easy going as much as possible for her...it usually works.

Some guys here don't believe it, but as unbelievable as it may seem some girls get nervous meeting up with guys. We must therefore make it as smooth as possible.

1. I only tell girls to meet me on weekends and assume she's free (typically, most people don't work these days).

2. I tell girls to meet me at a place I'm ALREADY going to/at (though this makes it okay for them to flake, paradoxically they more than often show up).

3. If she can't find the place have them meet up at your place (better if you live alone).

4. I tell girls all the time that we should only meet up briefly (stay for longer if things go well).

5. And I tell them we're not going on a 'date'.

This normally removes all friction and most flakes.

If she can't come for whatever reason, then call her the next weekend. You've not lost face because (hopefully) you were already out doing something and because you're not trying to 'date' her you can call her again.

I agree if you only want sex and nothing else.

If you want any kind of LTR then you don't want a woman who is too easy. Easy for you, means easy for other men. That means she will probably cheat and you might end up with kids that don't belong to you.

One interesting thing about this forum is how a lot of men complain how women today are all trashy sluts. Yet, when a woman holds back and challenges them a little, they dismiss her immediately. So what do you think happens? If you only go with girls who make it easy, you end up only dating trashy sluts.

QFT.

 

[Urbanyst]

but the other side of the coin also exists, women who make YOU wait til date 7, but let a variety of chads smash in the bathroom of a nightclub (whether that's because you met her when she was sober or because you're more beta than the chads or because you met her after she stopped partying/being "that kinda girl" depends on the individuals in question)

ultimately we're all taking our bets in the great gamble, some guys focus on trying to avoid treating hoes like princesses (and in the process accidentally filter out the princesses), some guys try to avoid letting their princesses slip away by rolling out the red carpet for everyone only to find a hoe in princess' clothing.

Doesn't have to be one of the other. I always move fast with girls just to see if I can. When I succeed I know she is slutty or has crazy high interest. But more likely just slutty. Girls with high interest will usually still make you chase a little just to make sure you're really the sexy man she believes you are.

When a girl slows me down, I know she is probably trying to be a challenge so she can pull more commitment from me. I also know she doesn't want to look slutty and she is trying to communicate that she is quality (of course I'll be the judge of that ultimately).

You can usually tell the difference between low interest and being a challenge. A girl who is being a challenge will be responsive, but she will always try to look busy and unavailable. A girl with low interest will say she wants to be friends or be very distant and indifferent. You'll just feel it in your gut that she doesn't give a sh*t.

 

[EmotionalGeek]

When a girl slows me down, I know she is probably trying to be a challenge so she can pull more commitment from me. I also know she doesn't want to look slutty and she is trying to communicate that she is quality (of course I'll be the judge of that ultimately).

You can usually tell the difference between low interest and being a challenge. A girl who is being a challenge will be responsive, but she will always try to look busy and unavailable. A girl with low interest will say she wants to be friends or be very distant and indifferent. You'll just feel it in your gut that she doesn't give a sh*t.

This is my current problem. I've met girl in a club. Spend few hours with her then went on a date spend another few hours and she did not let me to even hug her. I thought that she is just using me for attention so I decided to not contact her. Then she saw me in club and wanted to talk to me. I said hi and go about my business which was escorting another girl to a taxi. Then when I contacted her she responded and we set another date up. I'm not sure about her. I know initially she was a lot into me but I think first date was average, night in a club was really good so it was a visible contrast.

 

[Urbanyst]

This is my current problem. I've met girl in a club. Spend few hours with her then went on a date spend another few hours and she did not let me to even hug her. I thought that she is just using me for attention so I decided to not contact her. Then she saw me in club and wanted to talk to me. I said hi and go about my business which was escorting another girl to a taxi. Then when I contacted her she responded and we set another date up. I'm not sure about her. I know initially she was a lot into me but I think first date was average, night in a club was really good so it was a visible contrast.

If she talks to you and doesn't show you any disrespect, she probably likes you.

Women with low interest are usually disrespectful and they'll come right out and call you a FRIEND without hesitation. Just stop worrying so much about the outcome. Assume you will f*ck her eventually. If not, that's ok. Not like she is the last woman on earth.

 

[nismo-4]

She wanted to do someONE else Instead.

Fixed. She ain't interested. Ditch this bytch and move on. She's not that attractive anyway and you can do better.

 

[greatsnake]

next her.