Mr.Speed
Don Juan
oh I forgot: he stole her more then once money too
GF with small child, long term material or not
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He's abusive, yet he wants to control her. And since he cannot have his way with her he feels he should do whatever he pleases. There seem like a lot of LEGAL things she could be doing to keep this creep away, if her story is true. Except she's doing none of it, which leads me to believe she's either full of it and you simply see the verbal war raging, or she really is not that bright/has no support (except YOU). For some reason or another, you want to be involved in this situation. Somewhere in the back of your mind you want to play HERO for this woman and have her be forever grateful to you, which is something she will forget about as soon as she believes she has you.Mr.Speed said:
I am done with this thread. Do what you please and be prepared to pay the consequences, but do not post about this anymore - you refuse to listen to us and take our advice.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
His profile says 21, and if they went to school together, I am guessing she is about the same age.
he acts unfair in every way. ...when he moved out, he almost took everything with him (tv,computer etc..) he even stole some of her stuff!
then he refuses payment for his child, he even refuses to buy him diapers(he is always asking for her to buy some), again, he beated her a lot in the past (yep, even in front of the child) plus he is insulting her in every sentence he speaks ( I witnessed it.)
Some women are only turned on by bad-boy jerks. You run the risk of playing mr Nice Guy for her now when she has a small child, and then later having her run off with another bad-guy type.
How is the sex? She had better be waking up the neighbors, because I bet that's how it was with her ex.
he acts unfair in every way. ...when he moved out, he almost took everything with him (tv,computer etc..) he even stole some of her stuff!
then he refuses payment for his child, he even refuses to buy him diapers(he is always asking for her to buy some), again, he beated her a lot in the past (yep, even in front of the child) plus he is insulting her in every sentence he speaks ( I witnessed it.)
Some women are only turned on by bad-boy jerks. You run the risk of playing mr Nice Guy for her now when she has a small child, and then later having her run off with another bad-guy type.
How is the sex? She had better be waking up the neighbors, because I bet that's how it was with her ex.
MacAvoy
Banned
21 and your thinking about getting serious with this girl? She's fbuddy material at best. You should even be thinking about settling down at 21, your not mature enough. Heck I'm 30 and I'm probably not mature enough.
At 21 you should be banging as many college Hors as you can.
At 21 you should be banging as many college Hors as you can.
Mr.Speed
Don Juan
@ kyphan: she is already doing LEGAL thinks with her laywer and the courts, however these procedures take time due to the officials.
and more thing, I do NOT want to play hero, as a matter of fact I am not even really involved in their war, I just saw him a few times by accident,when he picked up his boy from her for the weekend.
dont bother, I am of the opinion that you have got it all wrong, but maybe this is due to you beeing subjective about this. nevermind..
@ rest: actually I turned 22 and she is 23.
She told me that he was kind in the past and has developed to a bad boy type over the years.
and I never played Mr. Nice guy, just acting naturally.
what do you mean by: "How is the sex? She had better be waking up the neighbors, because I bet that's how it was with her ex."
I dont get the context.
and more thing, I do NOT want to play hero, as a matter of fact I am not even really involved in their war, I just saw him a few times by accident,when he picked up his boy from her for the weekend.
dont bother, I am of the opinion that you have got it all wrong, but maybe this is due to you beeing subjective about this. nevermind..
@ rest: actually I turned 22 and she is 23.
She told me that he was kind in the past and has developed to a bad boy type over the years.
and I never played Mr. Nice guy, just acting naturally.
what do you mean by: "How is the sex? She had better be waking up the neighbors, because I bet that's how it was with her ex."
I dont get the context.
Mr.Speed
Don Juan
I was just thinking of getting serious with her in theory, noone knows what will happen in a year or so. Just wanted your opinion about "becomming a potential stepfather"
I mean, what would you guys do, if everything is perfect and will stay perfect, would you take the con (her child) and get serious with her? I mean nothing is perfect, there is always something
I mean, what would you guys do, if everything is perfect and will stay perfect, would you take the con (her child) and get serious with her? I mean nothing is perfect, there is always something
Then why he wants to be involved in a LTR with her? Especially when he is only 21?
If he was older (28+)...then my advice would be that at 28+, he is in a better position to understand her value. So, my advice would then be that whichever decision he makes...he must understand that
1- He will never be #1 in her life. Her child is (and should be) #1 for as long as the child depends on her.
2- The father of the child will (or should) always be involved in her life.
3- Once he accepts a single mother for a LTR...or marriage...then he must also accept the responsibility that he will ALSO become a role model for her child.
And many other issues too that I don't care writing about.
But he is only 21 and so is she. So, I don't understand why he wants to be in a LTR with ANYONE at this stage of his life. Or get involved in the drama that involves the father of the child (that's THEIR problem and not his).
If he was older (28+)...then my advice would be that at 28+, he is in a better position to understand her value. So, my advice would then be that whichever decision he makes...he must understand that
1- He will never be #1 in her life. Her child is (and should be) #1 for as long as the child depends on her.
2- The father of the child will (or should) always be involved in her life.
3- Once he accepts a single mother for a LTR...or marriage...then he must also accept the responsibility that he will ALSO become a role model for her child.
And many other issues too that I don't care writing about.
But he is only 21 and so is she. So, I don't understand why he wants to be in a LTR with ANYONE at this stage of his life. Or get involved in the drama that involves the father of the child (that's THEIR problem and not his).
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
what do you mean by: "How is the sex? She had better be waking up the neighbors, because I bet that's how it was with her ex."
I dont get the context.
Women are not turned on by being safe and predictable. Unfortunately that is what they need in a man when they are single mothers. Unless you touch a woman's deep-down feelings of attraction, she will eventually cheat on you with a man who does.
If he's such a jerk, why was she with him in the first place? Probably because he turned her on. If that is what she goes for in a guy, then she is settling for a nicer guy like you to find a father for her kid. That is a recipe for a bad relationship.
I dont get the context.
Women are not turned on by being safe and predictable. Unfortunately that is what they need in a man when they are single mothers. Unless you touch a woman's deep-down feelings of attraction, she will eventually cheat on you with a man who does.
If he's such a jerk, why was she with him in the first place? Probably because he turned her on. If that is what she goes for in a guy, then she is settling for a nicer guy like you to find a father for her kid. That is a recipe for a bad relationship.
This is exactly the situation that I just posted about.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=116682
As for what you should do. YOU should do nothing. Leave her alone and tell her that she already has a man.
The fact is she already gave herself to another man. She is just too stupid to stay with him. It is guys like you who she is using as 'other' options.
Why the fu-ck isn't she with the father? Is she a slut? Is she not good enough to be a wife?
You have to understand that she already made a promise to that man with her body. She was given a child too. She should be thankfull and should go back to her man.
I would guide her in that direction and call her out on her sl-utdom
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=116682
As for what you should do. YOU should do nothing. Leave her alone and tell her that she already has a man.
The fact is she already gave herself to another man. She is just too stupid to stay with him. It is guys like you who she is using as 'other' options.
Why the fu-ck isn't she with the father? Is she a slut? Is she not good enough to be a wife?
You have to understand that she already made a promise to that man with her body. She was given a child too. She should be thankfull and should go back to her man.
I would guide her in that direction and call her out on her sl-utdom
There already is something that is perfect. And that picture doesn't include your c-ock in that kids mother. There already is a family there even if she doesn't realize it.Mr.Speed said:
Don't fu-ck that up.
Maximus Rex
Banned
13 Reasons To Avoid Single Mothers
b]1) Baby Damage Child birth has a traumatic effect on the female form. Pregnancy leaves stretch marks, saggy breasts, and c-section scars. I've also heard that the nookie is even stretch out and it isn't the same anymore. Then there's the weight gain. Some chicks NEVER LOSE IT or they never get their former hot shape back.
2) I Can't Find A Baby Sitter Chicks will use this as an excuse to get out of date with you or they may legitmately can't find a baby sitter. Either case it isn't your problem and you shouldn't have to deal with it.
3) Babies Interrupt NutbustingI've had this happen to me. I was banging a chick and her kid interrupted my sex. Needless to say I was pissed. If some kid is going to interrupt the meanest head you've ever gotten, that kid should have your last name.
4) Baby's Daddy When your dealing with a chick and your getting know her, you shouldn't have to deal with kid's father. Some guys can't get over the fact that their ex has moved on. Before he was an un-attentive jerk and didn't give a jolly goddamn about her. Now that you've entered into the picture, the dude wants to be the ideal boyfriend and a "father of the year," nominee." The guy stars stalking her and wants to fight you. Even if the chick and guy are on good terms, the guy feels as if he can always smash. He knows her. He knows what she wants to hear and what makes her happy. The next know you your having this conversation. "I've decided to try and make it work with Jimmy's dad. Best way to avoid the situation is to avoid single moms.
5)Rent-A-Daddy Realizing her mistake, realizing that kids (especially boys need fathers,) The chick gets desperate, any and every guy has the potential to be "daddy." Your out trying to smash, not inheirit a family.
6)The Kids Are Still Up This is only a problem if your trying to pursue something other than a booty call. Wanting to spend time with you, but not wanting to bring strange men around her kids, you find yourself only seeing this chick after 10 or 11PM. You want to move forward, but she has to make sure your the "one." This could take months. I suggest dealing with chicks that are readily available to hang out.
7) Double Heart Break Your with the chick then everything falls apart. You not only do you have to deal with losing the chick, but you've formed a bond with lil' Jimmy. You and Jimmy play HALO together, watch the A's[COLOR="seagreen] toss the ball around, go to the zoo, and things dads do with sons or daughters. On top of maybe missing the chick, you miss the kid.
Your Not My Dad. You hook up with the chick eventually the issue of discipline is going to come up. Some kids being resentful or just being a bratty prick is going to eventuallly pull the "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! YOUR NOT MY DAD!!!" card. Personally if I did date single mothers and some dumba$$ kid pulled that stunt on me, I would say, "Your right. I'm not your father. Since I have no authority over you and you refuse to listen to me, you need to pack your sh*t and go live with your dad." This would be a deal breaker for me. In addition some chicks or the dad would have problem with you disciplining their kid. I'm sorry, if some kid broke one of my G.I. Joe's, I'm whooping his a$$.
9)You Know What She Going To Do She already has one kid, if you knock her up, it's safe to assume she's going to have another one.
10) Bad Judge of Character This chick got knocked up by somebody that she was "supposely in love with." Not only is she a bad judge of character, she's GROSSLY irresponsible. The same guy that's an a$$hole now, is the same guy she thought the world of and had unprotected sex with.
11)Unneccessary Expeditures Eventually you'll get to meet the kid(s.) Soon those dates turn into family outings. Instead of paying for two people, your paying for three or more. The same goes if you move in with her.
12) You'll Never Be #1 When your trying to build a relationship with somebody, you should be the focus of the woman's life. It should be about you and her. If she has a kid, you'll NEVER BE #1!!! That's not a bad thing either, but it's something I don't want to deal with. Neither should you.
13)Tag, Your It!!!!This should be the BIGGEST deterrent to EVER dealing with a single mother. In some jurisdictions, I think California is one of them, if you start dealing with a chick with kids, move in with her and things go south. THE CHICK CAN SUE YOU FOR CHILD SUPPORT!!!! She can claim that the her and child have "become a customed to you supporting the child." YOU COULD END UP POSSIBILY PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS!!!! Imagine being extorted money because you were doing what you thought was the "right thing." The state doesn't give a rat's a$$ about the relationship being over or you being a "good guy." They just don't want the chick on welfare. So as far as your concerned, it's "TAG, YOUR IT!!!"
The only reason why one should EVEN CONSIDER single mom, it's because it's FOR SURE A$$ and she's the one doing the pursing. She's being the agressor, she asked for the number, she's calling, she's setting up the date. Even then, she's just there until something better comes along. Instead of putting all the time and effort into M.I.L.F.s That effort would be better spent on G.I.L.F.s
b]1) Baby Damage Child birth has a traumatic effect on the female form. Pregnancy leaves stretch marks, saggy breasts, and c-section scars. I've also heard that the nookie is even stretch out and it isn't the same anymore. Then there's the weight gain. Some chicks NEVER LOSE IT or they never get their former hot shape back.
2) I Can't Find A Baby Sitter Chicks will use this as an excuse to get out of date with you or they may legitmately can't find a baby sitter. Either case it isn't your problem and you shouldn't have to deal with it.
3) Babies Interrupt NutbustingI've had this happen to me. I was banging a chick and her kid interrupted my sex. Needless to say I was pissed. If some kid is going to interrupt the meanest head you've ever gotten, that kid should have your last name.
4) Baby's Daddy When your dealing with a chick and your getting know her, you shouldn't have to deal with kid's father. Some guys can't get over the fact that their ex has moved on. Before he was an un-attentive jerk and didn't give a jolly goddamn about her. Now that you've entered into the picture, the dude wants to be the ideal boyfriend and a "father of the year," nominee." The guy stars stalking her and wants to fight you. Even if the chick and guy are on good terms, the guy feels as if he can always smash. He knows her. He knows what she wants to hear and what makes her happy. The next know you your having this conversation. "I've decided to try and make it work with Jimmy's dad. Best way to avoid the situation is to avoid single moms.
5)Rent-A-Daddy Realizing her mistake, realizing that kids (especially boys need fathers,) The chick gets desperate, any and every guy has the potential to be "daddy." Your out trying to smash, not inheirit a family.
6)The Kids Are Still Up This is only a problem if your trying to pursue something other than a booty call. Wanting to spend time with you, but not wanting to bring strange men around her kids, you find yourself only seeing this chick after 10 or 11PM. You want to move forward, but she has to make sure your the "one." This could take months. I suggest dealing with chicks that are readily available to hang out.
7) Double Heart Break Your with the chick then everything falls apart. You not only do you have to deal with losing the chick, but you've formed a bond with lil' Jimmy. You and Jimmy play HALO together, watch the A's[COLOR="seagreen] toss the ball around, go to the zoo, and things dads do with sons or daughters. On top of maybe missing the chick, you miss the kid.
Your Not My Dad. You hook up with the chick eventually the issue of discipline is going to come up. Some kids being resentful or just being a bratty prick is going to eventuallly pull the "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!! YOUR NOT MY DAD!!!" card. Personally if I did date single mothers and some dumba$$ kid pulled that stunt on me, I would say, "Your right. I'm not your father. Since I have no authority over you and you refuse to listen to me, you need to pack your sh*t and go live with your dad." This would be a deal breaker for me. In addition some chicks or the dad would have problem with you disciplining their kid. I'm sorry, if some kid broke one of my G.I. Joe's, I'm whooping his a$$.
9)You Know What She Going To Do She already has one kid, if you knock her up, it's safe to assume she's going to have another one.
10) Bad Judge of Character This chick got knocked up by somebody that she was "supposely in love with." Not only is she a bad judge of character, she's GROSSLY irresponsible. The same guy that's an a$$hole now, is the same guy she thought the world of and had unprotected sex with.
11)Unneccessary Expeditures Eventually you'll get to meet the kid(s.) Soon those dates turn into family outings. Instead of paying for two people, your paying for three or more. The same goes if you move in with her.
12) You'll Never Be #1 When your trying to build a relationship with somebody, you should be the focus of the woman's life. It should be about you and her. If she has a kid, you'll NEVER BE #1!!! That's not a bad thing either, but it's something I don't want to deal with. Neither should you.
13)Tag, Your It!!!!This should be the BIGGEST deterrent to EVER dealing with a single mother. In some jurisdictions, I think California is one of them, if you start dealing with a chick with kids, move in with her and things go south. THE CHICK CAN SUE YOU FOR CHILD SUPPORT!!!! She can claim that the her and child have "become a customed to you supporting the child." YOU COULD END UP POSSIBILY PAYING CHILD SUPPORT FOR A KID THAT ISN'T EVEN YOURS!!!! Imagine being extorted money because you were doing what you thought was the "right thing." The state doesn't give a rat's a$$ about the relationship being over or you being a "good guy." They just don't want the chick on welfare. So as far as your concerned, it's "TAG, YOUR IT!!!"
The only reason why one should EVEN CONSIDER single mom, it's because it's FOR SURE A$$ and she's the one doing the pursing. She's being the agressor, she asked for the number, she's calling, she's setting up the date. Even then, she's just there until something better comes along. Instead of putting all the time and effort into M.I.L.F.s That effort would be better spent on G.I.L.F.s
The other problem is this: in today's world with contraceptive pills, morning after pills and condoms. If the women wasn't married then I have to guess she probably had the kid to trap the guy in the first place. This indicates that she's very manipulative and doesn't give a **** about anyone but herself. Stay away.
I agree with previous posters, both sluts and single mothers are automatically ruled out.
Offcourse, the problem is they tend to be hot
I agree with previous posters, both sluts and single mothers are automatically ruled out.
Offcourse, the problem is they tend to be hot
Call_Me_Daddy
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Mommy won't LET ME! WAAAA! That's why i couldn't get laid for 32 years!'Luke Skywalker said:
Its all mumsys FAULT!
So why are you still living with your parents?
Aren't you old enough to move into your own place yet? Or will that take a few more decades?
I wonder what the women that you go out with think when you tell them you still live at home with Mummy and Daddy. I mean GEEZ! You are old enough to have a teenage son by now!
See why come in here and get advice when you try and reject the info we give you. It's obvious you know in the back of your head that this isnt really a good idea, but your gonna go ahead with it anyways cause you LOVE HER.Mr.Speed said:
You said earlier that she would be perfect if it wasn't for the baby, Well she's got a baby....you cant look at it that way. What about the fact that she let herself get beat all the time? Got pregnant with a guy who she wasn't sure of if he was a good guy or not and now is a single mom, how smart was that?
There are some huge red flags that I see here that you may think are insinificant beacause your binded by the pu$$y in front of you. Your not thinking rationally & the best thing you could have done was come on this site & ask from guys like yourself, but a little older have experience in this.
Hell I say go out with her and get in a LTR so you can learn. Some people gotta touch the fire, other only have to be told that its hot.
kdnash82
Master Don Juan
This is a perfect example of all the information you need being on the board. You simply have to search for it. Basically, I met this chick over the weekend and it turns out she has a 2 y/o son. I've been in one previous relationship where the girl had a 4 y/o daughter and it was probably the most depressing point of my life.
Now one might ask, if he knows it sucks, why is he putting himself back into this situation? Before finding this article, I didn't decide if I would or wouldn't put myself into this situation. Basically, I saw it as a good opportunity to bang a nice looking chick. Followed all the rules of the game and set up a date for this Wednesday, when I was hit with "Do you mind if my son comes along?" Threw me for a damn loop. Of course I mind, but did I say that. No. I told her I would text her tomorrow with the details of when and where I would pick them up.
After reading this board, I don't think she's gonna receive that text. All I wanted was some booty and she's pushing her son on me way too quickly. My point is, stop asking so many damn questions. Most of the people here have already been in your situation. Do the research because 9/10 the patch has already been laid.
Now one might ask, if he knows it sucks, why is he putting himself back into this situation? Before finding this article, I didn't decide if I would or wouldn't put myself into this situation. Basically, I saw it as a good opportunity to bang a nice looking chick. Followed all the rules of the game and set up a date for this Wednesday, when I was hit with "Do you mind if my son comes along?" Threw me for a damn loop. Of course I mind, but did I say that. No. I told her I would text her tomorrow with the details of when and where I would pick them up.
After reading this board, I don't think she's gonna receive that text. All I wanted was some booty and she's pushing her son on me way too quickly. My point is, stop asking so many damn questions. Most of the people here have already been in your situation. Do the research because 9/10 the patch has already been laid.
Zerotwoonenine
Senior Don Juan
normally i wouldnt suggest going after woman with baggage, this is wat most ppl would say,but it depends on your feelings 4 her, u can try and make the kids dad look after him if its ok with your girlfriend.
