Getting tired of dealing with women

[Toddz]

Just getting tired of dealing of women.

I'm 40, never married and no kids. Attractive, good career, own a house and car, no drug or health issues, but all I do is cycle through short term fling to short term fling when it comes to women. I have tight game, very sociable, and very good at seduction. I can usually sleep with a new prospect within the first or second date. Things usually escalate where we date for a month or two and then abruptly end.

I suppose part of the problem is, I'm running into head case after head case. Very attractive, but they're all messed up in one way or another. I wonder if i've passed the point where I can meet and settle down with a normal woman without baggage. Am I just being cynical? Most of the women I meet, everything goes great and they end up sabotaging things in the end in one way or another.

What should I do at this point? Take a break from dating or drop the idea of settling down which is ultimately what I want? I have a very high sex drive, so the idea of not dating doesn't sit well. I'm just tired of wasting my time and energy on doomed prospects.

 

[Mazer]

I’m coming to the conclusion that most women are mentally unstable. Most of my LTR’s are with women who have high interest right from the start but they turn out to be clingy, have low self esteem but worship me. All the other women are AW’s, bpd’s, or looking for the next branch to swing to. The only advice I can give you is to keep banging bishes, enjoy the company with the ones that worship you and always have a backup.

 

[oldmanofthesea]

Dating over 40 is like rooting through a garbage dump, trying to find the least broken and disgusting thing.

I almost never date women my own age, preferring late 20's to 35 at the oldest. So that helps a little. But honestly all women are "messed up" from a man's viewpoint. Doesn't mean they are truly messed up, it just means their brains work differently from ours and you have to understand and accept that. They are more emotion-based, and the what matters is how they feel in the current moment regardless of anything else.

You COULD be gravitating toward women who are likely to give you problems. Attention wh*res, etc. It would help if you gave us some examples of what went wrong, and the type of girls you go for. Are you leaving these women or are they leaving you? What are the common reasons for it (either way)?

 

[Toddz]

I usually go for women that are 7's and above.

I've been dating all ages and all types, from 20's to 40's

I end things with them because once those red flags go up I mentally check out and move on to the next one. We may have sex for a few more weeks but I already know it's not going anywhere.

Examples include partying/going out too much, drugs, insecurity, hung up on past relationships, mental instability.

 

[jaygreenb]

Just getting tired of dealing of women.

I'm 40, never married and no kids. Attractive, good career, own a house and car, no drug or health issues, but all I do is cycle through short term fling to short term fling when it comes to women. I have tight game, very sociable, and very good at seduction. I can usually sleep with a new prospect within the first or second date. Things usually escalate where we date for a month or two and then abruptly end.

I suppose part of the problem is, I'm running into head case after head case. Very attractive, but they're all messed up in one way or another. I wonder if i've passed the point where I can meet and settle down with a normal woman without baggage. Am I just being cynical? Most of the women I meet, everything goes great and they end up sabotaging things in the end in one way or another.

What should I do at this point? Take a break from dating or drop the idea of settling down which is ultimately what I want? I have a very high sex drive, so the idea of not dating doesn't sit well. I'm just tired of wasting my time and energy on doomed prospects.

You sound just like me, I'm 39. I think part of the problem is that you now have so much experience and are so aware that you see all the red flags. I have no interest in sex with women who aren't very attractive anymore and they are the most wacked in the head. Not to mention most women in their 20's who grew up with social media and online dating typically make terrible LTR prospects. Like some of the other posters said, either just enjoy the ride or be willing to focus less on looks and more on character. At this point I just focus on myself and what makes me happy. I have come to the realization that I will most likely not find a woman who I could be with longer than a few years, if that.

 

[The Duke]

Just getting tired of dealing of women.

I'm 40, never married and no kids. Attractive, good career, own a house and car, no drug or health issues, but all I do is cycle through short term fling to short term fling when it comes to women. I have tight game, very sociable, and very good at seduction. I can usually sleep with a new prospect within the first or second date. Things usually escalate where we date for a month or two and then abruptly end.

I suppose part of the problem is, I'm running into head case after head case. Very attractive, but they're all messed up in one way or another. I wonder if i've passed the point where I can meet and settle down with a normal woman without baggage. Am I just being cynical? Most of the women I meet, everything goes great and they end up sabotaging things in the end in one way or another.

What should I do at this point? Take a break from dating or drop the idea of settling down which is ultimately what I want? I have a very high sex drive, so the idea of not dating doesn't sit well. I'm just tired of wasting my time and energy on doomed prospects.

I could have written this myself. I think you are seeing women in their true, un-harnessed form. What you are describing is who the majority truly are. There are no more sanctions to keep women in check. We don't expect enough out of them. Making good decisions has never been their strong point and I am not putting them down.....they aren't analytical/logical enough, they are emotional reasoners. We are now witnessing the fallout from what happens to women when they've had too many guys. It has harmed their ability to pair bond, and caused attachment disorders, plus a bunch of other mental issues.

I've tried everything. It doesn't matter if they come out of social circles, dating apps, or bars. Its all a crap shoot. As I got away from "hot & fun" and actually required a bit more I have come across girls that weren't as crazy, had good jobs, good relationship skills, owned houses, no pills, no drinking problems, good head on their shoulders, etc. I also stopped investing in them/taking them seriously until I saw serious commitment on their part and who they were as a person.

However it never guaranteed success in the long run. All it did was guarantee a more harmonious time while the relationship was intact.

When I look around, I don't see anybody making it work either. Its the world we live in. This market is not conducive to long term relationship success.

 

[Music_czar]

Concur with all of the above, my experiences have been the same.

I only date hot girls in their 20’s, and yes women think differently from men and have always been hard to handle but this new millennial generation is just out of control.

Polyamory and arrangement-type cash windfalls for women have exploded these days, and guess what very few men are in on it it’s mostly hot young chicks banging the same few guys. Chicks can get a rich guy to pay them thousands of dollars to do anything from go for coffee to setting up an orgy with her equally slvtty friends. Women make their own money these days, makeup and fashion these days can make even the ugliest most average girl turn into a hot porn star, and they just go around getting laid and having threesomes.. and guess what they’re not having threesomes and orgies with doctors and lawyers if you know what I mean - not unless those kinds of guys are married and paying “an allowance” anyway.

These days men are fvcked.. there’s no way around it. Just get what you can while you can. LTR’s are just as crazy as the short terms they only hide it better and for longer.

Young hot chicks these days are actually proud of having mental disorders, daddy issues, and being slvts. They simply don’t care bc they make their own money, guys trip over themselves to buy them drinks and take em to expensive dinners, and on top of all that they’re getting laid whenever they want and to whoever they want.

Yes reality will hit em one day but in a lot of cases that won’t happen for another 10 or 15 years maybe even more. Who cares to think that far into the future?

The other night I dated a hot 25 year old (bj and sucked on her titties but no sex) and the reason we didn’t have sex was that she told me she’d had 125 guys in 5 years. How do women even manage to rack up such numbers in such a short amount of time? That’s like 1 new guy every weekend for like five years lol just shakin my head here.

I’ve also noticed young women are getting much better at compartmentalizing and turning their feeling off for a guy very suddenly, much worse than it ever was before. Scary stuff. I don’t know what average or fat chicks are like, but the hot ones in their 20’s are crazier than ever I dont think it can get any worse.

 

[AttackFormation]

Hah... a thread of guys complaining about how all the women are good for or want is sex. But I thought that's all we men were supposed to want? women are "emotional" and want relationships and men are "rational" and want to "spread their seed", right? And now this. LOL. Sorry, I just find the doublethink™ inherent to the manosphere hilarious. It's so fvcking stupid.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Concur with all of the above, my experiences have been the same.

I only date hot girls in their 20’s, and yes women think differently from men and have always been hard to handle but this new millennial generation is just out of control.

Polyamory and arrangement-type cash windfalls for women have exploded these days, and guess what very few men are in on it it’s mostly hot young chicks banging the same few guys. Chicks can get a rich guy to pay them thousands of dollars to do anything from go for coffee to setting up an orgy with her equally slvtty friends. Women make their own money these days, makeup and fashion these days can make even the ugliest most average girl turn into a hot porn star, and they just go around getting laid and having threesomes.. and guess what they’re not having threesomes and orgies with doctors and lawyers if you know what I mean - not unless those kinds of guys are married and paying “an allowance” anyway.

These days men are fvcked.. there’s no way around it. Just get what you can while you can. LTR’s are just as crazy as the short terms they only hide it better and for longer.

Young hot chicks these days are actually proud of having mental disorders, daddy issues, and being slvts. They simply don’t care bc they make their own money, guys trip over themselves to buy them drinks and take em to expensive dinners, and on top of all that they’re getting laid whenever they want and to whoever they want.

Yes reality will hit em one day but in a lot of cases that won’t happen for another 10 or 15 years maybe even more. Who cares to think that far into the future?

The other night I dated a hot 25 year old (bj and sucked on her titties but no sex) and the reason we didn’t have sex was that she told me she’d had 125 guys in 5 years. How do women even manage to rack up such numbers in such a short amount of time? That’s like 1 new guy every weekend for like five years lol just shakin my head here.

I’ve also noticed young women are getting much better at compartmentalizing and turning their feeling off for a guy very suddenly, much worse than it ever was before. Scary stuff. I don’t know what average or fat chicks are like, but the hot ones in their 20’s are crazier than ever I dont think it can get any worse.

Who are they having threesomes with if its not dr and lawyer? So they do their homeboys for free and charge the driven and motivated men?

 

[jaygreenb]

Concur with all of the above, my experiences have been the same.

I only date hot girls in their 20’s, and yes women think differently from men and have always been hard to handle but this new millennial generation is just out of control.

Polyamory and arrangement-type cash windfalls for women have exploded these days, and guess what very few men are in on it it’s mostly hot young chicks banging the same few guys. Chicks can get a rich guy to pay them thousands of dollars to do anything from go for coffee to setting up an orgy with her equally slvtty friends. Women make their own money these days, makeup and fashion these days can make even the ugliest most average girl turn into a hot porn star, and they just go around getting laid and having threesomes.. and guess what they’re not having threesomes and orgies with doctors and lawyers if you know what I mean - not unless those kinds of guys are married and paying “an allowance” anyway.

These days men are fvcked.. there’s no way around it. Just get what you can while you can. LTR’s are just as crazy as the short terms they only hide it better and for longer.

Young hot chicks these days are actually proud of having mental disorders, daddy issues, and being slvts. They simply don’t care bc they make their own money, guys trip over themselves to buy them drinks and take em to expensive dinners, and on top of all that they’re getting laid whenever they want and to whoever they want.

Yes reality will hit em one day but in a lot of cases that won’t happen for another 10 or 15 years maybe even more. Who cares to think that far into the future?

The other night I dated a hot 25 year old (bj and sucked on her titties but no sex) and the reason we didn’t have sex was that she told me she’d had 125 guys in 5 years. How do women even manage to rack up such numbers in such a short amount of time? That’s like 1 new guy every weekend for like five years lol just shakin my head here.

I’ve also noticed young women are getting much better at compartmentalizing and turning their feeling off for a guy very suddenly, much worse than it ever was before. Scary stuff. I don’t know what average or fat chicks are like, but the hot ones in their 20’s are crazier than ever I dont think it can get any worse.

Agree with your observation on poly or allowance based relationships with the hot young ones. I was seeing one and she told me almost all her friends had/have a sugar daddy type relationship. It's a lot more common than I think people realize now. They all banged each other too, it's a free for all out there haha The body counts these chicks rack up now are wild. Oh well, at least you know if you take care of your money you can still bang these chicks into your 60s+

 

[guru1000]

Am I the only one who find women incredibly easy for short term or LTR. Maybe because I’m a complete azzhole, douche as these women call me, so the “game” comports to my whims.

I don’t call them, ignore them, disappear on them, act like a douche. OP, you need to turn up your IDGAF meter and just play with them with no expectations. This is when they fall in line and become angel troopers.

All women have baggage. It’s their interest which ultimately directs their (shown) behavior to your liking.

Show your boundaries through abandonment.

 

[AttackFormation]

All women have baggage.

This. It's not the 19th century anymore, girls now have social media, OLD, porn, ever since they are pre-teens. Modern tech and social norms let them have literally as much sex as they feel like, at any time. By the time they're 18-19 they can already have dozens of men under their belts as I'm sure some of you guys here will have been told to your face personally... and you guys are talking about women in their 20s and 30s? lol. Baggage is inevitable.

You'll have to get used to it, adapt, and find out what actually makes you satisfied or even happy in life... it's no use trying to punch back against a tidal wave. This is the new world. Although, if you go back and read what people have been saying throughout history, you'll find that things really stay the same the more they change...

I dunno personally, but some guys will say go abroad away from the west. Guess you could try that.

 

[Music_czar]

Who are they having threesomes with if its not dr and lawyer? So they do their homeboys for free and charge the driven and motivated men?

Bingo

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Bingo

You know it

 

[resilient]

You'll have to get used to it, adapt, and find out what actually makes you satisfied or even happy in life... it's no use trying to punch back against a tidal wave.

I get that man. I’m stoked on my hobbies, education, career, friends/family (for the most part).

I refresh new plates often as they typically expire around four~six weeks. The following two weeks are usually met with distancing, withdrawing, hot/cold, infrequent texting, less physical, emotional, or both investment on her part. In that duration she is lining up my replacement. I kick back, invest less, and acquire new potentials. It doesn’t change the fact that the ending is a little messy, especially if I caught feels from all the hooking up we did.

The point is... I get exhausted from short-term flings and starting the cycle over again with someone new. It would be nice to have a partner who was interested in my development as a man. A woman I could consider doing new and existing hobbies with, bring her around my friends, take vacations with, etc.

I’m struggling with cognitive dissonance to accept that with OLD and social media... the dating world is becoming increasingly polymorious.

Everyone I’ve met has been loath to filter out exes and orbiters. It’s like cocaine to them. The validation they get online and in person if they meet up between our dates. I’m not even talking just 7,8,9,10s. 5-6s have a pile of orbiters too. I combat that working hard at acquiring new plates that seemingly have a rapid turnover.

Example. Last night I had a first date with an OLD woman six years younger than me (i’m in my mid-30s). I ask how old is going as a convo feeler. She says “I dropped the last guy I was with after we went out on 5-6 dates in less than two weeks. He got crazy possessive over my guy friends and told me I shouldn’t be hanging out alone with them.” Lol. Noted that one as a sign to not get jelly (but already she probably won’t make it as far as LTR status just based off the story she just revealed).

I’m not necessarily asking for a unicorn to settle into a LTR with... I can except baggage as I’ve worked hard to deal with my own. The problem I’ve had is the women I date don’t take responsibility for their baggage... they just look at new love interest as a quick fix and distraction from childhood and adult relationship wounds they refuse to heal and mature from.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I get that man. I’m stoked on my hobbies, education, career, friends/family (for the most part).

I refresh new plates often as they typically expire around four~six weeks. The following two weeks are usually met with distancing, withdrawing, hot/cold, infrequent texting, less physical, emotional, or both investment on her part. In that duration she is lining up my replacement. I kick back, invest less, and acquire new potentials. It doesn’t change the fact that the ending is a little messy, especially if I caught feels from all the hooking up we did.

What a mess. I bet they get "tired" too, but power through it with increasing levels of craziness....

The point is... I get exhausted from short-term flings and starting the cycle over again with someone new. It would be nice to have a partner who was interested in my development as a man. A woman I could consider doing new and existing hobbies with, bring her around my friends, take vacations with, etc.

I said on FB today with everyone trying to out do the next, trying to slit each others throats to get ahead... Why not have someone truly interested in you as a person to stay OUT of the rat race and to be each others peace?

I’m struggling with cognitive dissonance to accept that with OLD and social media... the dating world is becoming increasingly polymorious.

Is it worth it?

Everyone I’ve met has been loath to filter out exes and orbiters. It’s like cocaine to them. The validation they get online and in person if they meet up between our dates. I’m not even talking just 7,8,9,10s. 5-6s have a pile of orbiters too. I combat that working hard at acquiring new plates that seemingly have a rapid turnover.

I pray this attention fix quick attention span thing wears out eventually. It's gotta get "played" at some time...

I’m not necessarily asking for a unicorn to settle into a LTR with... I can except baggage as I’ve worked hard to deal with my own. The problem I’ve had is the women I date don’t take responsibility for their baggage... they just look at new love interest as a quick fix and distraction from childhood and adult relationship wounds they refuse to heal and mature from.

What about a real life woman whose NOT a unicorn. One whose done dumb things like you and I and has become ACCOUNTABLE. One who internally validates and is tired of the game just tired and wants a man of her own? That's gotta exist...

 

[resilient]

@mrgoodstuff: Post-wall levels the game yet as someone else said, they increasingly lose the ability to pair bond. They will settle for anyone offering the ring. The risk is her getting bored or unhappy. A strong family upbringing, emotional support from level-minded peers, finding fulfilling work in societal ties, volunteering, church, etc. are a good place to start but mileage may vary...

A catch from a glance:
I’ve met this woman though my faith lately that is around my age, mature, doesn’t seem to be a heavy social media user. She is hard to read, reserved, not as susceptible to indirect flirting. Carries and dresses like a real feminine woman. Nice curly hair, nice small earrings, outfit, and smile. I’ve done a few volunteer events with her. I’m not accustomed to how to run game as a gentleman with her besides just outright and ask her for a date, but ya, she is a better catch than the majority of plates I’ve date this year.

Accountablity is noble and becoming an increasingly attractive rare trait... court the one you find that has her act together, RP, and open to your influence.

 

[051AV]

Just getting tired of dealing of women.

I'm 40, never married and no kids. Attractive, good career, own a house and car, no drug or health issues, but all I do is cycle through short term fling to short term fling when it comes to women. I have tight game, very sociable, and very good at seduction. I can usually sleep with a new prospect within the first or second date. Things usually escalate where we date for a month or two and then abruptly end.

I suppose part of the problem is, I'm running into head case after head case. Very attractive, but they're all messed up in one way or another. I wonder if i've passed the point where I can meet and settle down with a normal woman without baggage. Am I just being cynical? Most of the women I meet, everything goes great and they end up sabotaging things in the end in one way or another.

What should I do at this point? Take a break from dating or drop the idea of settling down which is ultimately what I want? I have a very high sex drive, so the idea of not dating doesn't sit well. I'm just tired of wasting my time and energy on doomed prospects.

I'm not the only one that notices this trend there's so many fvcked up women roaming around with enough baggage to fill a tractor trailer. Something in the water or what, my fvcked up woman meter in my head is going off the scale on a regular basis, ever since I've been with a BPD I can sense damaged women. Soon as I start talking to a woman I can get that feeling, the way she's acting, her body movement etc.

Nut job women start showing red flags, you're the fool that chooses to ignore them, she starts telling you about her family life and it sounds like a train wreck that's a good sign to run, get the hell out of that relationship. Other things like, Control freak, Jealousy issues, Possessiveness, Push pull, Lying etc. Does she have lots of friends or no friends, her past relationships, is she playing victim saying her boyfriends have been abusive. Look in her medicine cabinet see if you see any SSRI meds, these pills need to be taken during the day if she doesn't the meds wear off.

Get in too deep with these nut jobs and you decide to kick her to the curb they can lose their nut and go ape ****. If your involved with a BPD she will make damn sure she tries to ruin your reputation, she will try get your friends to turn against you, the smear campaign is in high gear. Hell you could be minding your own business and the cops come knocking on your door.

The last thing I can leave with you is DO NOT think with your little head be a grown up and use your noggin, mentally ill women can make you very ill.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

@mrgoodstuff: Post-wall levels the game yet as someone else said, they increasingly lose the ability to pair bond. They will settle for anyone offering the ring. The risk is her getting bored or unhappy. A strong family upbringing, emotional support from level-minded peers, finding fulfilling work in societal ties, volunteering, church, etc. are a good place to start but mileage may vary...

A catch from a glance:
I’ve met this woman though my faith lately that is around my age, mature, doesn’t seem to be a heavy social media user. She is hard to read, reserved, not as susceptible to indirect flirting. Carries and dresses like a real feminine woman. Nice curly hair, nice small earrings, outfit, and smile. I’ve done a few volunteer events with her. I’m not accustomed to how to run game as a gentleman with her besides just outright and ask her for a date, but ya, she is a better catch than the majority of plates I’ve date this year.

Accountablity is noble and becoming an increasingly attractive rare trait... court the one you find that has her act together, RP, and open to your influence.

I'm not the only one that notices this trend there's so many fvcked up women roaming around with enough baggage to fill a tractor trailer. Something in the water or what, my fvcked up woman meter in my head is going off the scale on a regular basis, ever since I've been with a BPD I can sense damaged women. Soon as I start talking to a woman I can get that feeling, the way she's acting, her body movement etc.

Nut job women start showing red flags, you're the fool that chooses to ignore them, she starts telling you about her family life and it sounds like a train wreck that's a good sign to run, get the hell out of that relationship. Other things like, Control freak, Jealousy issues, Possessiveness, Push pull, Lying etc. Does she have lots of friends or no friends, her past relationships, is she playing victim saying her boyfriends have been abusive. Look in her medicine cabinet see if you see any SSRI meds, these pills need to be taken during the day if she doesn't the meds wear off.

Get in too deep with these nut jobs and you decide to kick her to the curb they can lose their nut and go ape ****. If your involved with a BPD she will make damn sure she tries to ruin your reputation, she will try get your friends to turn against you, the smear campaign is in high gear. Hell you could be minding your own business and the cops come knocking on your door.

The last thing I can leave with you is DO NOT think with your little head be a grown up and use your noggin, mentally ill women can make you very ill.

They can fvcck up everything you worked hard for.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

They pretend they want relationships

So bytches pretending to want relationships is a new thing?