Getting the cheek and still kissing her

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I went out with this chick on a first date at night. All good, drinks were had, walked back to the train station. Made out there. All well.

Then on the second date, an afternoon date, I walked her back to her car. There I went in for the goodbye kiss, but as I remember she turned her cheek as if to avoid me kissing her on the lips. I didn't F*cking care, adjusted my head and still kissed her on the lips.

F*ck that. I won't bother you with the story she came up with after that (blabla, ex still in my head, bla bla I don't want a relationship right now, don't want to make false promises, I'm not friendzoning you, I like like you otherwise wouldn't have gone on a second date, I just want to do fun uncomplicated stuff [which I guess would probably be sex and *insertwhateverfunstuff*]).

We're still whatsapping.

TL;dr: kissed a chick that was giving me the cheek on the mouth because I wanted to.

What do ya think about it?
 

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stick ur **** inside her
 

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Yeah of course he should take his **** out in a public place and force it inside a girl who had just tried to avoid kissing him.

Then he could try and explain that to the police and jam his **** into a female officer.

Well I once had a girl to the same cheek avoidance thing and adjusted to kiss her properly anyway. She seemed surprised but I think that made her think of me more sexually than friendly so...
 
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Eternal_water said:
Yeah of course he should take his **** out in a public place and force it inside a girl who had just tried to avoid kissing him.

Then he could try and explain that to the police and jam his **** into a female officer.

Well I once had a girl to the same cheek avoidance thing and adjusted to kiss her properly anyway. She seemed surprised but I think that made her think of me more sexually than friendly so...
lol, this made me laugh.
So you did the same thing I did too? Was just wondering how people perceive it: I've heard some friends of mine say that it's not done and they were all offended by it and laughed at me for being such a loser. Then again other guys thought it was cool.

I agree, I think showing some balls and a bit of arrogance, and doing it anyway is actually what many women crave for: being manhandled. I'm not going to force anything unacceptable on her, but just little things like this I mean.
 

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It's a tough call without seeing the entire picture, but I would say that you did the right thing, because it will inevitably force all the cards to the table.

There is a pervasive error that young men make today in dealing with women, and that is the tendency to avoid bringing the true relationship dynamic to light. Therefore the man worries, "Does she like me? Did I do this or that right? Should I do this or that?"

Worrying about whether or not the other person likes you is strictly the domain of the woman. I realize that the OP is not stating that he is worried about that, but it's important to keep in mind.

I have zero flakes, and zero doubts ever that a woman likes me, because I can see the signs of attraction and I pursue only those who are attracted to me. Therefore I'm free to be the bold, shocking, exciting guy she's looking for. If a woman shows the tiniest sign of falling interest, I drop her immediately (remove attention from her) until she literally begs to have me back.

In your case, OP, it sounds like you made the right move, and that she was qualifying herself to you afterwards. I don't know if she's the best prospect long-term, though, because she seems to be way overcomplicating things.

You just may need to seduce her more with your own incredibleness, as I would do.
 
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Atom Smasher said:
It's a tough call without seeing the entire picture, but I would say that you did the right thing, because it will inevitably force all the cards to the table.

There is a pervasive error that young men make today in dealing with women, and that is the tendency to avoid bringing the true relationship dynamic to light. Therefore the man worries, "Does she like me? Did I do this or that right? Should I do this or that?"

Worrying about whether or not the other person likes you is strictly the domain of the woman. I realize that the OP is not stating that he is worried about that, but it's important to keep in mind.

I have zero flakes, and zero doubts ever that a woman likes me, because I can see the signs of attraction and I pursue only those who are attracted to me. Therefore I'm free to be the bold, shocking, exciting guy she's looking for. If a woman shows the tiniest sign of falling interest, I drop her immediately (remove attention from her) until she literally begs to have me back.

In your case, OP, it sounds like you made the right move, and that she was qualifying herself to you afterwards. I don't know if she's the best prospect long-term, though, because she seems to be way overcomplicating things.

You just may need to seduce her more with your own incredibleness, as I would do.
Thanks for the input. I'm now wondering whether I should continue with her (keep on initiating whatsapp messages myself) or whether I should just drop and let her come to me (which could very well not happen). Before the second date she would whatsapp me herself sometimes too, I still initiated mostly. But since this thing she has really only initiated 10 minutes after the date when she got home, and then in these past few days I had to initiate the messages.

She likes me and said that she isn't friendzoning and wants to keep on doing ''uncomplicatedly do fun stuff and see where we'll end''. But like I said: she doesn't want to make false promises (because she's gonna go away for 6 months beginning of next year), doesn't want a relationship, doesn't know whether she could fall in love with another guy again now, and her ex is creeping around in her mind sometimes, is what she told me.

I have been given the ex story by a girl before. But that time the chick said we should stop seeing each other.

I'm just wondering about a few things:

- Is she genuine in liking me and is the ex-story genuine or just a bull**** excuse?

- What in the lords name does ''Next to youknowwhat (her words) I want good company to do fun stuff with. Not no strings attached.'' mean (which she told me after the first date over whatsapp), when she on the other hand also told me after the second date that: ''I don't want a relationship, at least not now. I don't want to make false promises/give false hope''. A bit contradictory..

- Should I stop whatsapping her and let her initiate?

I'm determined to get her, because I declined a bootycall by a chick that told me she was going to rip me to pieces, all for her.. (I'm such an idiot).
 
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