Getting rid of fat while weightlifting.

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I weigh about 160 I am 5'11 and when I sit down there are tires, I have about three tires and almost on every part of my body you can grab hold of some fat, it can be my back or my thighs or my stomach or arms.

I am not overweight though!

I guess you can call me a fat skinny person.

Ive read that while working out that if you perform cardiovascular activity that you will burn the muscle also. So then while weightlifting cardio is a no go. Or is it?

Is there a way for me to lose that fat around my body while I weightlift and still be able to eat the right amount of nutrition mainly protein and lose fat too?
 

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Ok, working out in the morning works good. Also, do very high paced cardio for about 20 minutes, this burns the fat, and it will burn some muscle but not enough to make any difference.

Also, you can try pyramiding down, this will build more muscle faster. But you will not get as strong as you would if you pyramid'd up or worked out regularly.

When you pyramid down, you have to do 10 reps to failure for 5 sets, lowering the weight just enough for each set.
 

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-Green tea... lots
-protein/fat or protein/carb meals... no meals with carb/fat
-lots of protein per day
-eat every 2 hours
-eat 6-7 times a day
-1.5g - 2g of protein/lb bodyweight
-no carbs after 5-6PM
-limit fats after 8ish or so PM
-low intensity cardio when waking up... 3-6 times a week.
-clean eating... most of the time. (cheat maybe 1 time a week or so)
-lift heavy
 

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No need to do cardio and train in the morning. That's some bs.

Fat loss is all about DIET! Cals in < cals out = fat loss.

Get a solid diet in check and hit the iron.
 

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i disagree centaurion.... timing can be key.

When waking up and glycogen levels are low, your body isn't going to burn calories the same as when you have a big a$$ baked potato chillin in your stomach.
 

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you'll also end up burning muscle.
 

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i think that depends on intensity.
 

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My 6 pack is starting to come through, and i still have the same problem as you, fact is im pretty sure that to eliminate it you need to get your body fat percentage stupidly low like to 6% or somthing, and even then do not expect to not be able to grab the slightist bit of fat, we need fat to survive, if you had none you would die.
 

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Originally posted by check_mate_kid_uk
My 6 pack is starting to come through, and i still have the same problem as you, fact is im pretty sure that to eliminate it you need to get your body fat percentage stupidly low like to 6% or somthing, and even then do not expect to not be able to grab the slightist bit of fat, we need fat to survive, if you had none you would die.
or... make your body bigger? *gasp*
 

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Thank you semag and everyone else for the breakdown.

Cardio or no Cardio in the morning? -Im not sure I got alot of diffrent answers on this post.

Are you guys saying I should reduce my fat intake and increase protein intake and not to take carbs and fats together?
 

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Originally posted by kk2004
I weigh about 160 I am 5'11 and when I sit down there are tires, I have about three tires and almost on every part of my body you can grab hold of some fat, it can be my back or my thighs or my stomach or arms.

I am not overweight though!

I guess you can call me a fat skinny person.

Ive read that while working out that if you perform cardiovascular activity that you will burn the muscle also. So then while weightlifting cardio is a no go. Or is it?

Is there a way for me to lose that fat around my body while I weightlift and still be able to eat the right amount of nutrition mainly protein and lose fat too?
You and I are about the same height and weight and it has NEVER been to my disadvantage when it come to my physical attractiveness. Honestly dude, I think you're overanalyzing your body a little too much. I'm sure you know that you need some fat in order to survive. There is nothing wrong with being able to grab some fat.
 

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Originally posted by Centaurion
No need to do cardio and train in the morning. That's some bs.

Fat loss is all about DIET! Cals in < cals out = fat loss.

Get a solid diet in check and hit the iron.
I agree with this guy. Thats pretty much what I've been doing and I've lost atleast 50-60 pounds doing it. I am 5'10 and weigh around 160-165 and about a year and a half ago I was around 200-215.

Its all about the caloric deficit, balance in your diet and your strength training/workout plan. Just bust your ass in the gym and keep eating clean, you will see results.
 

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So if I eat more protein but reduce the fat then I should gain muscle while losing fat.
 

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i'd say do some cardio in the morning, but that's my opinion. Nothing hardcore, just a brisk walk for like 40 mins or so about 3 -5 days a week.

Don't eat carbs and fats together, and cut your carb intake at around 5 PM. This will get you on track.
 

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Cardio should only be done in order to supplement your total cal deficit. Ie, if you have gone over your daily cal intake, you might throw in some cardio.
 

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Not true.

Diet gets you CLOSE, but it doesn't cut you up or control it. Diet provides the mechanism, Cardio, mod. to low intensity provides the final cuts.

Its alot like creating a sculpture. The diet chips off the big pieces and creates the basic form, especially if you were pretty fat. As you get skinnier, caloric consumption provides the control, while cardio provides the "fine-tuning."

Thing is people mistake the purpose of cardio. They go WAAAY to intense, like they would as if lifting, and burn tons of carbs during their 45 minutes, or worse, expend the muscle glycogen and amino acids after a workout.

To kick fat's arse, you have to stay as if you were going just a bit faster than walking. ALL the bodyfat in the body could take you over 100hours to burn off, due to the caloric density of fat. Whereas, carbs are meant for short bursts of energy and could be spent in under an hour. You could literally walk 100 miles on the fat we have, and only run 1 mile on the carbs we have. It's pretty amazing when you consider it more indepth.

This is why women don't really lose alot of fat, and sacrifice their curves. They don't lift to maintain their figures (since it is muscle that provides shape), and they do too high of an intensity during fat buring. Initially, about 30+% of a workout in 45 minutes to 1 hour is burned as fat. It increases from there as longevity goes, because it's best source for that sort of energy.

Hence why, if you do low - mod. intensity in the morning, or post workout, you're ahead, because if you're jammed in the belly of carbs and you're juiced in the muscle cells with sugars.

Now I offer this suggestion, cardio does the fine tuning when cutting down, and cardio does the control when you're bulking, that is if you're eating, 3500+ cal, on up to the 4000+cal.

What I refer to is the really cut, under 10%, and even to break barriers, because the best method is to ditch 250 calories over your daily total, mostly from carbs and some fats. And then work off 250 calories. This would amount to 1 lb per week, plus the water weight associated with the carbs, so about 2lbs. If you go 500cal, you risk going into starvation mode. And without dipping deep enough into shaving calories, you won't make much progress.

The cardio assures you that you're losing, because you're not PRECISELY measuring your calories each day, you could throw it off anyday by improper measurements. On the other hand, if you eat your protein, get some fats, and round out with good carbs, you can guesstimate how much work should be done on the treadmill.

That's why dieting isn't and can't be a perfect science, because you're life is unpredictable, as are your energy requirements. BUT, if you focus on just a few basics, it simplifies the process and leads to greater success.



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No need to write a friggin essay.

Answer me this question : How do you loose weight?

If you answered : if cals in < cals out = weightloss you can pat yourself on the back.

Can this be achieved with the help of a controlled diet? Yes.

No need to do cardio IF YOU HAVE YOUR DIET IN CHECK!


I know that the n00bs posting here don't knowjack about bb and dieting, therefore cardio could be used a safety measure as you describe in your post. But when it comes down to it, cardio is not a *must* when cutting.
 

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The "essay" as you put it, is for those that actually want to KNOW for the sake of knowing.

YES, less calories equal bodyweight loss, but it depends on macronutrient breakdown as to the ultimate composition of your body as it progresses.

I won't bore anyone with a further "essay." This board is very dogmatic about working out; they ask questions, but what doesn't seem right to them, they not only reject but criticize. If you have the answer, or think what you're doing is better, why ask? Why bother? Thus the nature that people only want confirmation of what they're doing for confidence and for the select KBJ's to flex their knuckles in an attempt to best other's with their superficial knowledge.




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