Getting Jacked/Ripped Doesn't Help You Get Laid

[jjflash]

First of all, forget about the straw man arguments. Yes, being physically fit will help compared to being a fat slob who is 100 pounds overweight, or compared to a troll living under a bridge pushing around a shopping cart full of stolen items from dumpster diving.

Consider a more realistic comparison. Will a jacked/ripped guy fare better in dating compared to a man of average or slightly above average athletic fitness?

As a reference point, in my profession (and occasionally in social circles), I've met quite a few Div. 1 athletes in elite high profile sports programs. I've also met a number of pro athletes, and a shockingly large percentage in both groups don't have girlfriends and have moderate success at best in dating.

Even in pro sports, most teams are in less glamorous markets such as Kansas City or Oklahoma City or Milwaukee where there are few if any opportunities to exploit a "groupies scene." Not to mention probably 95% of college athletes are in low profile schools most people have never heard of.

When these guys walk around on campus, 95% of the time, they are completely anonymous. The students you see cheering their heads off at games are more interested in partying and getting drunk with friends and have absolutely no clue who the players actually are. The tailgating before games and bar crawls after are the biggest draws, not the players themselves.

If elite D1 athletes who are the best athletes of their age group can walk around in total anonymity close to 100% of the time, and if only a few dozen professional athletes regardless of sports are actually recognizable, then how are they being magically out gamed by some anonymous random muscle-head schmuck on so suave?

I've seen recently retired pro athletes who are household names out in clubs, as well as hall of famers, and all they can attract are random women with boyfriends who only want a photo before walking off without so much as a thank you.

Don't be an idiot. Getting jacked/ripped isn't a magic formula for getting instant lays. It's just some random horsesh-t by a sosuaver desperate for virtual 'likes.'

 

[corrector]

I agree, a decent bf % should be 24%. If its like over 35% then it must be too fat.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I agree, a decent bf % should be 24%. If its like over 35% then it must be too fat.

Wow…you don’t think 24% is a little high?

 

[SW15]

I still think that a highly fit guy or collegiate/professional athlete has a better chance of getting laid than a man of average to slightly above average fitness levels.

Professional athletes have money and status, which helps in getting laid.

 

[corrector]

Wow…you don’t think 24% is a little high?

Not relative to 38%. There should be a noticable difference in women noticing you if you go from 38 to 24%.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

As someone that has been as high as 35 bf and as low as around probably 7-10 back when I had almost visible abs, the difference is significant, anyone that says otherwise has not been gaming on a spectrum of bf, the difference is just there, any denial of it is a rejection of nature itself

 

[jjflash]

I still think that a highly fit guy or collegiate/professional athlete has a better chance of getting laid than a man of average to slightly above average fitness levels.

Professional athletes have money and status, which helps in getting laid.

Forget about hypotheticals and let's talk about reality. Did you attend college at a school in one of the power conferences? If so, you would've been privy to at least some of the inside dirt on athletes' private lives. There is very, very, very little. It is shockingly low.

When you do hear about controversies, what is it about? Typically it's about rape cases, both real and fabricated, under the table payoffs from boosters, minor theft/shoplifting/misdemeanor cases, and athletes failing classes. The "glamorous life" of most top collegiate athletes consists of living in a "luxurious" dorm room the size of a closet, free meals, getting yelled at daily by fat belligerent coaches and trying to get at least a C- in 2 or 3 Mickey Mouse classes.

You have to keep in mind that almost all of these college athletes are almost always very awkward young adults with very little real world experience of any kind. Even before fake covid, most were shuttered in their rooms playing video games or addicted to social media.

As far as pro athletes, despite their huge paychecks, the overwhelming majority live lives of nearly complete anonymity. Most hardcore sports fans are either betting junkies/gambling degenerates or former athletes. The groupies scene is very small, probably a tiny fraction of what it is for top rock bands. BTW, the touring mega rock band culture has all but evaporated as well.

Take a look at the recent stories about the Brooklyn Nets. Even the 2 or 3 top players with max contracts have to pay their girlfriends hundreds of thousands of dollars and buy or rent them houses just to keep them around for a few months.

Again, it's crazy how people believe the bald faced lies about "ripped guys" getting laid effortlessly.

 

[oc16]

Forget about hypotheticals and let's talk about reality. Did you attend college at a school in one of the power conferences? If so, you would've been privy to at least some of the inside dirt on athletes' private lives. There is very, very, very little. It is shockingly low.

When you do hear about controversies, what is it about? Typically it's about rape cases, both real and fabricated, under the table payoffs from boosters, minor theft/shoplifting/misdemeanor cases, and athletes failing classes. The "glamorous life" of most top collegiate athletes consists of living in a "luxurious" dorm room the size of a closet, free meals, getting yelled at daily by fat belligerent coaches and trying to get at least a C- in 2 or 3 Mickey Mouse classes.

You have to keep in mind that almost all of these college athletes are almost always very awkward young adults with very little real world experience of any kind. Even before fake covid, most were shuttered in their rooms playing video games or addicted to social media.

As far as pro athletes, despite their huge paychecks, the overwhelming majority live lives of nearly complete anonymity. Most hardcore sports fans are either betting junkies/gambling degenerates or former athletes. The groupies scene is very small, probably a tiny fraction of what it is for top rock bands. BTW, the touring mega rock band culture has all but evaporated as well.

Take a look at the recent stories about the Brooklyn Nets. Even the 2 or 3 top players with max contracts have to pay their girlfriends hundreds of thousands of dollars and buy or rent them houses just to keep them around for a few months.

Again, it's crazy how people believe the bald faced lies about "ripped guys" getting laid effortlessly.

Maybe these MLB players and other professional athletes don't have as many groupies as we think. However, Google just about every professional athlete you can think of and they almost all have smokeshow wives.

I also guarantee it did not take much effort to meet these women either; the women did most of the work (chasing)

 

[jjflash]

Maybe these MLB players and other professional athletes don't have as many groupies as we think. However, Google just about every professional athlete you can think of and they almost all have smokeshow wives.

I also guarantee it did not take much effort to meet these women either; the women did most of the work (chasing)

NASCAR, MLB, MMA come to mind immediately as far as hot trophy wives are concerned. But that's the thing, these guys are getting married. Can they cheat? Possibly but they have to be very careful as they are risking losing everything financially.

I wonder if the NHL fits the pattern as well.

As far as how much effort these guys put in, I'm not privy to that. I just don't follow sports (or associated gossip mills) as closely as I used to.

 

[Sam_J]

I agree, a decent bf % should be 24%. If its like over 35% then it must be too fat.

Lol 24 percent is fat as fvck

 

[Hal9000]

I have no idea how things are for college age guys but among the over 30 crowd being really fit absolutely makes a huge difference. Thing is that 90% of guys let themselves go in their 20s so by the time they are in their 30s (or older) they look like crap. Lots more attractive middle aged women than there are men. If you want to immediately move to the top of the heap having a great body is perhaps the quickest way to get there. Doesn't guaranteed anything obviously but other than making a ton of money, which is tough for most guys, its the easiest way to move from a 5 to an 8 in the eyes of women.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

The only female that has ever commented on my muscles was a stripper giving me a lap dance lmao

 

[Robert28]

You would honestly be shocked how many women prefer guys who aren’t in shape whatsoever. Not obese but definitely not ripped or buff. I’m 180lbs with a 32” waist and I get called skinny by some women. Which is weird because I’m in the best shape of my life at 38.

 

[Dash Riprock]

This thread is ridiculous.

Sorry OP, nothing could be further from the truth. Women love men who are in shape and have muscles--period. It's built into their DNA from a survival of the fittest standpoint. Been around too long to think otherwise. Plus, I pull women half my age or less all the time and it isn't because of my 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.

Ciao.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I agree with OP, furthermore I, too, have seen fat slobs or skinny-as-fvck guys with some of the hottest girls I've seen in my city.

Meanwhile, back when I was hitting the gym regularly and was at 180lbs with 10% body fat, my approaches went nowhere and I remained a virgin.

I'm going back to the gym now but it's for myself rather than to attract women.

 

[jjflash]

This thread is ridiculous.

Sorry OP, nothing could be further from the truth. Women love men who are in shape and have muscles--period. It's built into their DNA from a survival of the fittest standpoint. Been around too long to think otherwise. Plus, I pull women half my age or less all the time and it isn't because of my 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.

Ciao.

I'm an agnostic on all of these colored pill debates--all I can do is observe what's going on around me and make a judgment call based on the facts. I know of way too many men who are elite athletes who are "ripped/jacked" and simply don't date at all.

It's not true for all of them, but the percentage is high enough to be alarming.

A lot of folks are in denial over how anti-male our culture has become.

I agree with OP, furthermore I, too, have seen fat slobs or skinny-as-fvck guys with some of the hottest girls I've seen in my city.

Meanwhile, back when I was hitting the gym regularly and was at 180lbs with 10% body fat, my approaches went nowhere and I remained a virgin.

I'm going back to the gym now but it's for myself rather than to attract women.

I agree and have seen this countless times, usually several times a day, often many times a day if I hit the more touristy areas.

In my own experience, I've seen astonishingly little variation in terms of how many women are attracted to me, regardless of my weight and how fit I am.

I've been as much as 40 pounds overweight and there was literally zero drop off in how many women were attracted to me, dating opportunities or actual dates: I was still very active dating very pretty women regardless.

I can't really stay overweight for long however as I enjoy sports too much, but have gotten caught in periods where I've been extremely busy with school and/or work and gained weight.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I agree with OP, furthermore I, too, have seen fat slobs or skinny-as-fvck guys with some of the hottest girls I've seen in my city.

Meanwhile, back when I was hitting the gym regularly and was at 180lbs with 10% body fat, my approaches went nowhere and I remained a virgin.

I'm going back to the gym now but it's for myself rather than to attract women.

How do you know this? There's a lot of reasons why this girl can be with this guy and if you think they are having a sex filled healthy relationship then you are thinking way too optimistically for other people.

 

[SargeMaximus]

How do you know this? There's a lot of reasons why this girl can be with this guy and if you think they are having a sex filled healthy relationship then you are thinking way too optimistically for other people.

I dont know for sure but even if the guy has sex with her once a year it’s more than I’m getting when it comes to that type of women. You see how when I had the muscles I might be discouraged by that fact alone

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I dont know for sure but even if the guy has sex with her once a year it’s more than I’m getting when it comes to that type of women. You see how when I had the muscles I might be discouraged by that fact alone

for the amount of bull shvt and submission that the guy has to put up with, I wouldn’t even find sex every day as acceptable

 

[SW15]

Women love men who are in shape and have muscles--period. It's built into their DNA from a survival of the fittest standpoint. Been around too long to think otherwise. Plus, I pull women half my age or less all the time and it isn't because of my 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport.

In general, owning a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport won't help a guy get laid. That's a great point!

Fitness and big muscles will always help.