Get Yourself Noticed, Act as if You're Not Interested and Watch What Happens..

[Frank2500]

It amazes me how much the dating game in America and in most parts of the world is practically the same. Women love attention and those who regularly get hit on, will always wonder why you, that particular guy ignores her and acts as if he's not interested and doesn't find her attractive. She then becomes curious and her interest in you spikes up...

For the past six months or so, I've developed the habit of walking to a newsstand a few blocks on the street across from my office during my lunch break. To cross the street, I always have to go past a lady who sits at a stand/booth selling phone cards. Each time I do so, I notice that her eyes follow me every day-that is, really staring/following me as I come and go. I always pretended not to notice her; she's right next to the newsstand I go to almost everyday. But at every turn I used to walk past her stand without saying a word and each time she used to see me coming from a distance, she'd keep her eyes on me and size me up.


In such circumstances and in the professional environment, I always make sure I look my best. Today I simply had on a dark brown suit with a black T-shirt that matched with my shoes; other times I would wear for instance a black suit with a white dress shirt and a purple tie, etc., etc. Even when I'm dressed casually in a polo shirt, I make sure to look neat and presentable. I noticed the woman at the stand has some dangerous curves (hips), the kind I like...but I chose to play the game and see for how long each of us would last without giving in to the other.


And so today, when I wasn't really expecting it and was about to walk past her stand as usual, she talked to me:

"Excuse me, can I tell you something?" she asked.

"Sure," I answered. "What's up?"

Then I went close to her and made great eye contact with her and noticed how really nervous she sounded and looked when she was talking to me. She gave me a flyer and talked to me about something and then said:

"Well, read it. And if you have any questions, feel free to ask me..."


Yeah, right. It's all a game. It's quite interesting and fun to be in those positions where from time to time a woman finds a way to try to talk to you. So to those who are relatively new, don't always rush to show interest to a woman you find attractive. Get her to notice you and act as if you're not interested. Let her even assume you're arrogant. Just sit back and if you play the game well, watch what will happen. I don't intend to get involved in any romantic manner with this woman in question but for a while, I'd been waiting to see just how long this game between the two of us was going to last and who would break the ice first. Today she finally did...

 

[zekko]

So if you act indifferent, a girl will give you a flyer?

Regardless, from what you say the girl was watching you from the first time she saw you, even before your little disinterest game. Sounds like she likes the way you look and the way you dress, I don't see how your disinterest was a factor at all. You probably could have approached her at any time and gotten results, if she is really attracted.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

You hit the nail right on the spot, Zekko. Your analysis is right on target. I knew based on the vibe I was getting from her that I could have talked to her and gotten positive results if I wanted to, but I'm just not really romantically interested in her. But the disinterest game does produce results as well.


For instance, I'm one of the very few guys who doesn't hit on the women at my place of work or chase after them because I've always made sure to draw the line between professional relationships and romance in the workplace. Consequently, a majority of them have developed an interest in getting to know me and in drawing closer to (if I may use their words) the guy who seems so withdrawn and reserved. They just can't understand why I'm not doing the same thing as the others. The thing is, I work in a negative environment characterized by gossip and where a lot of the women there sleep around with their bosses and co-workers. Once you start, you have no private life because everyone in the entire building will get to know what you did the night before...

 

[zekko]

I agree that getting involved with co-workers is a bad idea, although I must confess I've done it before.

As for the disinterest thing, the reason I responded to this thread is that I've rarely had good results from being indifferent. I know indifference is a big thing that's taught here, but it's not a lesson that is well directed at me. I tend to be too indifferent.

I think indifference works best with attention ho types ("why isn't he paying attention to meeeee?") that seem to need to have every man falling at her feet. It can also work if you are an obviously high value male, but in that case you really don't need to use the indifference anyway.

Although obviously you don't want to appear to be too eager either.

 

[synergy1]

Right, its a very fine line between some indifference, and some initiation. This has taken me a long time to work on. Being too interested doesn't work for obvious reasons, but being completely indifferent doesn't either. This is where jovial banter comes into play because its showing some sort of initiation, but none of this SOB stuff like trying to get a date. It also gives you an indication if they are interested and its worth pursuing or not.

One thing that mystery method from the game taught me that works well is to speak in passing but give off body language like you have someplace else to go. Giving off a vibe that you have other places to be makes them work a little ( if they are interested of course) , which is much more desirable than to have something instantly given to them without any work. Women would rather work for a guy than have said guy fall into their laps.

 

[origin138]

I think indifference works best with attention ho types ("why isn't he paying attention to meeeee?")

I think Zekko nailed this. Emotionally healthy women won't usually respond strongly to indifference in my experience. It may puzzle them for a bit, but ultimately they'll usually just chalk it up to oh well, he's got other things going on, no big deal.

In my experiences, the women that DO respond strongly to indifference usually have some underlying self esteem issues. They'll respond to your indifference, then once they know they have your attention/interest/time etc, they'll blow you off. These women crave the challenge and lose interest once the challenge ceases to be.

This is a classic borderline trait and a red flag, and this is where passive game can be dangerous.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

I agree with you both, Origin138 and Zekko. I see that in my office building all the time. The women who love getting attention from men and who enjoy seeing these men acting like big time AFCs chasing and running after them, hitting on them, begging for their time, etc. just can't accept, believe nor figure out why one male couldn't care less or act in the same way as the others. I agree that it's like a challenge to them. They want to find out what's behind the mystery of this male who doesn't act toward them like the others do. And that sparks their interest. But if you give in to that, once the challenge isn't there anymore, they'll have their way with you.



In my company a lot of the women there have done everything they can to seduce me and get me to fall so my name can also be stained and talked about in their office gossip conversations. Since they haven't succeeded, I've been labeld as "cold," "too reserved," "not very sociable," etc. I explained to my limited circle of office acquaintances who brought this issue up to me that when a person works in a negative office environment rife with intrigues, envy, hypocrisy, witchcraft, etc. and where merit, hard work and competence are at the very bottom of the list when it comes to promotions, that person has no choice but to withdraw himself or herself and only embrace those who are receptive toward him or her. That's the only way the person can maintain his or her integrity in a negative environment.




Besides, a lot of these young women have gone out or are still currently going out with our CEO who's rumored to be HIV-positive and enjoys engaging in unprotected intercourse. Thus, the rate of HIV-infected personnel in my office building is said to be quite high and these women deliberately seek younger men within their age range to infect them as well. I'm in an environment where you have to have a substantial degree of self-control and self-discipline to survive and I'm continuing to do the best I can and looking forward to hopefully get out of there within several months.


Quite interestingly, I've noticed that a lot of women actually tend to be drawn to guys whom they think are "arrogant' because the latter aren't giving them the attention they're used to.

 

[020204]

"Ignore and Score" How to get the girl: Dating Mindset Explained by Robert Belland, has some useful stuff, "The Art of Seduction" by Robert Greene also covers this.

 

[origin138]

I agree with you both, Origin138 and Zekko. I see that in my office building all the time. The women who love getting attention from men and who enjoy seeing these men acting like big time AFCs chasing and running after them, hitting on them, begging for their time, etc. just can't accept, believe nor figure out why one male couldn't care less or act in the same way as the others. I agree that it's like a challenge to them. They want to find out what's behind the mystery of this male who doesn't act toward them like the others do. And that sparks their interest. But if you give in to that, once the challenge isn't there anymore, they'll have their way with you.



In my company a lot of the women there have done everything they can to seduce me and get me to fall so my name can also be stained and talked about in their office gossip conversations. Since they haven't succeeded, I've been labeld as "cold," "too reserved," "not very sociable," etc. I explained to my limited circle of office acquaintances who brought this issue up to me that when a person works in a negative office environment rife with intrigues, envy, hypocrisy, witchcraft, etc. and where merit, hard work and competence are at the very bottom of the list when it comes to promotions, that person has no choice but to withdraw himself or herself and only embrace those who are receptive toward him or her. That's the only way the person can maintain his or her integrity in a negative environment.




Besides, a lot of these young women have gone out or are still currently going out with our CEO who's rumored to be HIV-positive and enjoys engaging in unprotected intercourse. Thus, the rate of HIV-infected personnel in my office building is said to be quite high and these women deliberately seek younger men within their age range to infect them as well. I'm in an environment where you have to have a substantial degree of self-control and self-discipline to survive and I'm continuing to do the best I can and looking forward to hopefully get out of there within several months.


Quite interestingly, I've noticed that a lot of women actually tend to be drawn to guys whom they think are "arrogant' because the latter aren't giving them the attention they're used to.

Damn man, that sounds like a toxic work environment, literally. I see some strong parallels between my day to day and your day to day minus the HIV thing.

My office is rife with young HB8+'s from southern CA and is a very toxic workplace. TONS of gossip, slander, rumors, etc.

Aside from one minor setback (went on a few dates with a coworker a while back), I make it a goal to not engage the women unless it's work related. They're not even worth gaming for 2 reasons: it's the workplace, and their behavior is a big turn off (demeaning, insecure, loud, controlling, etc).

I've also earned all the titles you've earned. I've been labeled "aloof", "dismissive", "arrogant", "bossy", "not drinking the koolaid" etc etc. All this because I don't kiss anyone's ass, especially the women's. I'm not rude to anyone, I just keep it all objective and don't mingle with people I don't like.

I do my own thing and just do my 8 hours while I build my side business. It infuriates my owners endlessly because I don't kill myself working 70 hour work weeks and it pisses the women off because I can't be used as a tool in their drama toolboxes.

They can call it what they want, but being my own man is important to me regardless of social pressure. No one said going against the grain would be easy.

I digress. Best of luck getting out of there ASAP. Toxic workplaces are horrible.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

Thanks a lot for your encouragement, Origin138. I equally have the same philosophy here: once work is over, I return home and I practically never ever socialize with my co-workers after work hours. The unfortunate mentality in most African countries is that people tend to seek to physically eliminate those whom they consider to be their rivals or adversaries in the workplace. They try to do so by poisoning your food and drink, sabotaging and discrediting you to the CEO and your immediate bosses, slander and diffamation, etc. When they don't succeed in doing so, many attempt to now attack those people spiritually by engaging in witchcraft/voodoo.




I know that would sound scary to most of you who aren't familar with such an environment but that simply involves either taking your name, your image (such as a picture) your hair sample, a clothing item you wore recently such as a shirt or a pair of pants,etc. to a sorcerer/sorceress, witch/wizard. Simply being effective and diligent at your job will cause others to become envious of you and to perceive you as a threat. Some women equally go to sorcerers, etc. to charm men whom they like but who seem unwilling to consider them for marriage. It's a rough, mean and chaotic environment.




I actually had an experience very many years ago here, where in the form of a dream I saw someone I knew strangling me. Thank God my parents always used to emphasize to me to read my Bible before I went sleep. By God's grace I was able to speak some words of scripture and I mentioned the name of "Jesus," the name no witch or wizard likes to hear. Once I did so, that person in the dream backed off, looked at me and disappeared. It was God who saved me. And He enabled me to come across that person the very next day after that attack...and the person was so uncomfortable in my presence that he couldn't even look me in the eye when I shook his hand...which is sufficient evidence that it was no ordinary dream. Turns out the guy was envious of me because during that period I was preparing to return to the U.S. to begin grad school. Just really want to let you know that truly, God is real, Jesus is real, and there are both good and evil spirits in the world that we can't see with our physical eyes.

 

[georgie24]

i dont see where these baby games help you get sugar walls, if shes attracted to you then your in, if u need to play head games that just means your trying to qualify yourself

 

[backbreaker]

yes and no.

indifference works but not in the context that you are trying to explain it.


the reason it is effective is because it raises doubts in something that she ahd at one point took for granted; i.e you being interested in her. men do this as well as women do, you had a girl who you know likes you but you are on bigger fish or what not and then she goes cold and you get worried that **** you over played your hand

meaning, for it to work, you have to first set the hook in her, develop some relationship with her, get her comfortable in the fact that she thinks you like her, then you take the attention away.

taking the attention away from a girl who doesn't know/like you doesn't accomplish anything. if a girl doesn ot lke youa nd you stop paying her attention she's relieved lol.

all it really is, is a power grab when you get to the nuts and bolts of it; she thinks you guys are going on her time table but by taking away attention it goes from her end to yours.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

yes and no.

indifference works but not in the context that you are trying to explain it.


the reason it is effective is because it raises doubts in something that she ahd at one point took for granted; i.e you being interested in her. men do this as well as women do, you had a girl who you know likes you but you are on bigger fish or what not and then she goes cold and you get worried that **** you over played your hand

meaning, for it to work, you have to first set the hook in her, develop some relationship with her, get her comfortable in the fact that she thinks you like her, then you take the attention away.

taking the attention away from a girl who doesn't know/like you doesn't accomplish anything. if a girl doesn ot lke youa nd you stop paying her attention she's relieved lol.

all it really is, is a power grab when you get to the nuts and bolts of it; she thinks you guys are going on her time table but by taking away attention it goes from her end to yours.

Agreed BB, but one point I wanted to make.


I often find like the OP that this method works EXTREMELY well for me esp on girls who are 8's or up; that's all I usually use this method on and I only do it with women I see on a regular basis otherwise its pointless...lol

The point I wanted to add is this:

A girl who is a legitimate 8-9 in her own mind and who finds you attractive will become curious by your indifference regardless of whether you establish something with her or not. Why?

Because she is so conditioned to think that "I'm the hottest girl here, every guy in this room wants me."

When she see's that you pretty much ignore her it will DEF spike her curiosity if she finds you even mildly attractive.

I agree that without any baseline attraction your dead in the water.

The other addition I use with this method is social proof.

The girl will see that your a personable guy, you have girls all over you, yet you completely ignore her.

Drives them nutzzz!











PIMP

 

[georgie24]

the title to this thread should be this :

"shes interested and i act gay like a little kid and she picks up on it and strings me for a hell of a ride"

 

[phooey73]

the title to this thread should be this :

"shes interested and i act gay like a little kid and she picks up on it and strings me for a hell of a ride"

Spot on - except I'm not sure she's "interested." Dude sounds full of himself (but too scared to do anything), paranoid, and slightly crazy.