Gays have the right to marry

[Burroughs]

It is interesting that in our backwards time faggotry is promoted a practice that has no chance of offspring…..while at the same time a man who consorts with a girl at puberty age 14 who is capable of bearing him the healthiest children will be thrown in jail.

80 years ago the opposite was true

faggots were considered mentally ill and men were allowed to have fertile, loyal brides that he could train to be properly subservient.

remember the elites are a death cult who want the masses to vanish….the elevation of faggotry and the elimination of proper virginal women for financially stable mature men is another nail in the coffin.

 

[Deep Dish]

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Bollocks, marriage and children go hand in hand. If you think society won't see an influx of phaggots and lezzo's with child accessory in tow once gay marriage is fully "normalized" into society your dreaming. This will only add to societal problems.

I'm not "dreaming" any society. I'm arguing from philosophical reason. With 53% nationwide support for gay adoptions, it probably will happen, but that does not take away from the right of marriage between two consenting gay adults, nor how you can remain philosophically consistent in supporting gay marriage but not adoption.

(I also want to add, but not to argue a point, that I'm skeptical of the harm to children and assumed it for the sake of argument. To my knowledge, scientific studies have not yet found any significant objective differences. If the number of parents is the determining factor then the validity of the harm argument is questionable.)

 

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To my knowledge, scientific studies have not yet found any significant objective differences.

Yeah I'll call bullsh!t on that SWPL wishful thinking as well.

Since when did we sweep under the carpet the overt and absolute disdain the lesbian culture harbours for traditional masculinity? You know the type of positive reinforcement that actually creates leaders and decent men.

There will be no escaping this misandric environment whether it's consciously or subconsciously it will be present and harmful for a young boy or even girl for that matter.

As it stands single mothers are creating the lions share of criminals in our prisons, drug abusers, sex offenders and candidates 5 times more likely to commit suicide than those raised by a mother and father. Yet I'm to buy that extra lesbian in the house will make all the difference?... What a joke, what a bunch of PC sheep we are.

 

[Burroughs]

There will be no escaping this misandric environment whether it's consciously or subconsciously it will be present and harmful for a young boy or even girl for that matter.

As it stands single mothers are creating the lions share of criminals in our prisons, drug abusers, sex offenders and candidates 5 times more likely to commit suicide than those raised by a mother and father. Yet I'm to buy that extra lesbian in the house will make all the difference?... What a joke, what a bunch of PC sheep we are.

(.)(.) you already know this but I'll state it clearly for the unwashed masses.....

....the promotion of faggotry along with omnipresent media culture twitter, facecrack, body and soul defacing, disharmony between man, woman, and child is all part of the elite's agenda to dehumanize 99% of humankind and turn them into drones and then finally elimination through wars, depopulation, and engineered diseasee

...widespread faggotry combined with female entitlement media facebook addiction is a recipe for species genocide.

thats right species genocide

it will happen slowly but it will happen

MGTOW is part of this....these men are preserving themselves but at a huge cost....the cost of no progeny.....so the elite win.

we will see this over the next 30-50 years and the 99% who will suffer from this will be too moronic to stop it.

 

[Down Low]

If marriage is not a property transfer of a woman from her father to her husband, it is nothing.

Should a woman marry her uncle, as Rhode Island allows Jews to do, the woman is transferred from her father to her father's brother or mother's brother. The woman stays within her own family. There is no tying of brides' families with distinct grooms' families. The more that a society consists of close-relative marriages, as with the Muslim preference for first-cousin marriages, the more that a community is a loose agglomeration of separate, walled-off families. The more that an individual has to be born into a family to be able to marry into that family, the less interaction family members do with other families. Craft, trade, and other interactions with "outsiders" loses its mutual-benefit character. The nonproductive, zero-sum games of cheating and swindling become more and more the rule. Antisocial behavior toward outsiders becomes fully internalized -- it becomes a way of life -- and lying and cheating becomes the rule towards one's own spouse and [who knows if they're yours so you despise them] children (until they too are seduced and molested by close relatives).

Society cannot grow and prosper without long term mating that raises mentally-sound children (not generation after generation of increasingly retarded, behaviorally impaired, diseased inbreds).

If you don't see the significance of the example, take a look at Pew surveys of religious groups' attitudes toward abortion and gay rights. 5 of 6 Jews want abortion on demand, and a stunning 19 of 20 are in favor of gay rights.

The solution to the problem is simple. Gays should get married. The normal way. Abstain from sick behaviors and lead normal lives. Every minute that is NOT spent lurking around public toilets is a minute gained for normal healthy thought and action that benefits the whole community.

 

[backseatjuan]

In some countries (Azerbaijan) they f'ck a donkey. They put a donkey into a pair of boots, it can't move, and f'ck it from behind. I've been told so by ex border patrols, they witnessed it first hand. :crackup:

Now I don't give a f'ck if they legalize marriage to a donkey in Azerbaijan, so why should I give a f'ck if they legalize marriage to another man in United States. I live in Russia and if you f'ck a donkey or f'ck a man people look down at you, and if you look bad at people you'll get beaten up. I am totally fine with that, I'll beat a homo myself if I get a chance.

 

[SharinganUser]

I support gay marriage simply because I want the government out of marriage for good and this distracting wedge issue to go away. However, Deep Dish, it shouldn't take scientific studies to convince you that kids from same sex households will be mocked and reviled unfortunately. This is why gay adoption is so incredibly selfish.

I completely agree with you on the first part, government is should not be in the marriage game. However saying that gays shouldn't be able to adopt because the children will get bullied is utter nonsense.

Kids get bullied for all kinds of reasons. I've known people that have got bullied for being a different race(they are mixed). Does that mean that mixed people shouldn't have kids?

 

[SharinganUser]

I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed to adopt I said its selfish to scope when there are so many straight families that want to adopt first. Racial disc. is on its way out, gay disc. is not so far along.

So then if homosexuality weren't so looked down upon you wouldn't have a problem with them adopting?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Kids get bullied for all kinds of reasons. I've known people that have got bullied for being a different race(they are mixed). Does that mean that mixed people shouldn't have kids?

Bi-race kids are the result of a loving couple which generate them, nobody takes an innocent kid and give it to them.

The difference between mixed race kids and kids given to homosexuals is the intervention of the government and other parts completely alien to the couple and the kid.

 

[SharinganUser]

no I wouldn't.

Ok, that's a fair point.

 

[SharinganUser]

Bi-race kids are the result of a loving couple which generate them, nobody takes an innocent kid and give it to them.

The difference between mixed race kids and kids given to homosexuals is the intervention of the government and other parts completely alien to the couple and the kid.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the point that PPRF and I were discussing.

Edit: Not to mention, you don't have to be in love to have kids, even bi-racial kids.

 

[Quiksilver]

I always hesitate at this "should gays be allowed to marry" discussion.

Simply because its phrased in a way that suggest you should have dictatorial control/authority over another person.




The question should be phrased:


Should you (or anyone) be allowed to prevent someone(s) from getting married?


Any the answer is always: NO! Mind your own damn business.

The only power you have a right to over other people, is where you are being forced to pay for it through involuntary taxation. Whenever your tax money is used, you should have a direct democratic say in how it gets used.

Outside of that, in my opinion, anyone who wants to control the actions of other innocent people, are enemies of any republic which values individual freedoms.

Personally I'm not a fan of gay marriage, since the concept of marriage was created for man/woman. But I would never try to control/prevent a homosexual couple from "getting married".

 

[Who Dares Win]

This has absolutely nothing to do with the point that PPRF and I were discussing.

Edit: Not to mention, you don't have to be in love to have kids, even bi-racial kids.

The point is that when a mixed couple have sons there is no external intervention from the state, plus mixed kids dont get bullied for what I see (at least here in western europe), while in case of gay adopted kids there is a third part involved with creates an alien situation knowing the kids would be bullied.

In the case of mixed couples, bullying at school is an unpleasable collateral damage of a sane relation, in the case of the government giving kids to gays its no longer a collateral but something which was obvious from the beginning.

As I said one is completely natural where two parts create a third one connected to them, in the second case its unnatural (in the sense that nature does not involves it) plus we have a 4rth part (the gov) which gives a part(kid) to two other parts (parents) which are completely alien to the him.

In one case bullying is limited and a collateral of stupidity, in the second case bullying is a sure risk which could be avoided considering also that the parts involved have no connetion to each other.

As I said I fully support gay marriage, but exactly because I believe in freedom Im not gonna deprive a innocent part oh his just because someone is trying to win a popularity/approval contest on his skin.

 

[SharinganUser]

As I said one is completely natural where two parts create a third one connected to them, in the second case its unnatural (in the sense that nature does not involves it) plus we have a 4rth part (the gov) which gives a part(kid) to two other parts (parents) which are completely alien to the him.

If this is the stance you are going to take then you are going to have to be against adoption altogether.

In one case bullying is limited and a collateral of stupidity, in the second case bullying is a sure risk which could be avoided considering also that the parts involved have no connetion to each other.

Just as kids being bullied for having gay adopted parents could be avoided by denying them ability to adopt, kids being bullied for being Black could be avoided by Black people not having kids. Is anyone going to sit here and say that Black people shouldn't have kids because of the racism they encounter?

You seem to think the problem with bullying lies with the victim and not with the people who are doing the bullying.

 

[Down Low]

Equal rights, huh? Coitus is the one and only way to reproduce humanity. Reproduction is a basic biological function. What to fvck is wrong with you enablers and excusers? Society can and must place special emphasis on reproducing itself. Society can and must provide unequal, vastly superior rights to men who are actively courting women, mating, and raising children.

What are you fag-svckers thinking? Two guys wearing leather and tutus and digging into each others' azzh0les -- how to fvck is this "equal" to reproduction?

I swear. Some guys cannot tell the difference between form and function. Just because it involves rubbing a d1ck somewhere does NOT mean it's sex.

 

[SharinganUser]

Equal rights, huh? Coitus is the one and only way to reproduce humanity. Reproduction is a basic biological function. What to fvck is wrong with you enablers and excusers? Society can and must place special emphasis on reproducing itself. Society can and must provide unequal, vastly superior rights to men who are actively courting women, mating, and raising children.

What are you fag-svckers thinking? Two guys wearing leather and tutus and digging into each others' azzh0les -- how to fvck is this "equal" to reproduction?

I swear. Some guys cannot tell the difference between form and function. Just because it involves rubbing a d1ck somewhere does NOT mean it's sex.

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[Who Dares Win]

If this is the stance you are going to take then you are going to have to be against adoption altogether.




Just as kids being bullied for having gay adopted parents could be avoided by denying them ability to adopt, kids being bullied for being Black could be avoided by Black people not having kids. Is anyone going to sit here and say that Black people shouldn't have kids because of the racism they encounter?

You seem to think the problem with bullying lies with the victim and not with the people who are doing the bullying.

Black couples having kids is natural since it doesnt require external intervention, gay adoption does,is that hard?

In one case racism awfully happens, in the second case is created from gov intervention.

Think like driving and have to stop cause a tire went flat casually vs driving while being sure that the fuel tanks are almost empty.
The woudl you say that both drivers are to be considered equally?

 

[SharinganUser]

Black couples having kids is natural since it doesnt require external intervention, gay adoption does,is that hard?

In one case racism awfully happens, in the second case is created from gov intervention.

Again this suggests that you should have a problem with adoption as a whole, because you should be holding gays to the same standard that you hold heterosexual couples that cannot conceive. If you don't think that adopted kids in general don't get bullied for being adopted you are wrong about that too.

Think like driving and have to stop cause a tire went flat casually vs driving while being sure that the fuel tanks are almost empty.
The woudl you say that both drivers are to be considered equally?

If you get stuck, a cab, or a tow truck driver won't care if you knew the tank was empty or if your tire was low on air. They charge you for the service anyway.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Again this suggests that you should have a problem with adoption as a whole, because you should be holding gays to the same standard that you hold heterosexual couples that cannot conceive. If you don't think that adopted kids in general don't get bullied for being adopted you are wrong about that too.

Comparing being bullied because of having two fathers who bang each other to being bullied (dont see it as common as the first case) because you are no biologically the result of your parents are kinda different, I guess you can see the reason yourself, except the evidence of the fact.

If you get stuck, a cab, or a tow truck driver won't care if you knew the tank was empty or if your tire was low on air. They charge you for the service anyway.

Sure but the insurance which is paying for the rescue truck sure as hell will.