Gay Parents

[theunflushables]

Yes, however, this either proves god is not omnipotent because he can't stop these things or he is not omnificent because he doesn't care enough to stop these things.

 

[Last Man Standing]

^^^^Again, you are assuming that you know everything that benefits humanity and the earth!! If it is good then why stop it - no matter how YOU perceive it to be!! Don't take it personal -- your mother may have died but because of such action humanity lives!!!!!!

 

[theunflushables]

But how is it good? How was Hitler good? Six million Jews killed is not good. And don't give me the population excuse. Because god could have cut down on making six million babies.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Not just Jews died, kid!! Hundreds of millions died in the 2oth century and they were NOT jews!!! Those who control the mass media have brainwashed/ mind-controlled you!!!!

I didn't say "everything was good" - I said YOU/WE, on the grand scale, don't know what is "good" because our knowledge is limited!

 

[theunflushables]

Well yeah obviously not just Jews, it was just one of many examples that came to mind.

I guess the next question is how can we know a supernatural being? Knowledge of said being makes Him/Her/It no longer supernatural becuase it becomes part of our natural being.

 

[Street_Fighter]

go out and kill an animal with your bare hands,skin it alive and cook it in fire..drink it's blood!!
then get into a couple of fist fights,fvck some *****s,drink some beers ,smash can on forehead and burp!
GGGrrrr strong like bull!


do this 3x a week or more to reclaim masculinity!

 

[Last Man Standing]

TheUnflush, Good question! Supra-natural means that which is above our nature - which is the ones who created our nature!!

It is because of your intelligent nature that you asked such an intelligent question!! Can a squirrel ask such?? Of course not!!

The question to ask is - what is the source of an intelligent human, Animal, Celestial , creation? Is this happenstance, accident??? You are delusional if you think such!!!!

The function of our human bodies gives us Trillions of reasons why this is not happenstance -- how many zillions of reasons do you need for celestial objects to work in unison - let alone for the benefit of human existence!!!!!!!

Your question is obviously rhetorical!!

 

[theunflushables]

Things function the way they do because its the laws of nature. If they weren't in place life couldnt exist, so our predecessors who did not have the needed functions to sustain life (i.e. intelligence) have been weeded out. We fail to see the past so we look at the present and say "this supernatural being did it". And just like the Greeks had their gods for thousands of years, I am sure new ones will arise, maybe not in the religous sense but in the socio-economic sense. It took billions of years for things to work itself out to get to this point, and to say we are the end product is delusional.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Things function the way they do because its the laws of nature. If they weren't in place life couldnt exist, so our predecessors who did not have the needed functions to sustain life (i.e. intelligence) have been weeded out. .

This is wholly illogical!!!!! Iif our predecessors did NOT have the needed functions to sustain life (i.e. intelligence) then how come do we exist, since we are their by-products, offspring???? You do NOT make sense!!!

 

[protienpowder]

I have been in a similiar situation. Turns out, people will only judge you on your own actions and personality. If you friends are good people, telling them the truth won't make any difference except you will now be closer to your friends.

If any of my friends told me his mom's a lesbian, I would find it kinda weird for a few seconds, then it would just be 'meh'.

Just be glad you don't have two gay dads.

 

[azanon]

Not just Jews died, kid!! Hundreds of millions died in the 2oth century and they were NOT jews!!! Those who control the mass media have brainwashed/ mind-controlled you!!!!

Could there possibly be anything more ironic than Last Man Standing believing others to be brain-washed?

 

[azanon]

The question to ask is - what is the source of an intelligent human, Animal, Celestial , creation? Is this happenstance, accident??? You are delusional if you think such!!!!

To indirectly refer to evolutionary process as an accidental, or random phenemenon, is a great way of saying "I know nothing about science, or how living things have learned to adapt and survive to an ever-changing, and harsh environment". You will never be able to truly learn, LMS, until you let go of your baseless, dogmatic, faith-based, and cult-like creed(s).

 

[Microphone Fiend]

^^^Gender is defined at birth and thus our "roles" - when one female or male deviates from this naturally divinely created construct then he/she has interfered with that which one is given and is solely responsible for such action!!!

okay but what does that have to do with what I am saying?

People are saying w/o both parents (but mostly w/o the father) it is a 'sub-optimal' living standard for males. However, what if your mother was a pimp (in the literal sense) or your dad was an AFC or w/e? I dont care who chose it at birth or who isnt playing their roles or w/e u are talking about, but to call two parents an 'optimal' situation right off the bat is contrived to say the least

 

[jtrain 289]

Buddy it even says in the bible that god gives life and takes it to but its for the overall good . Your just human so dont try to judge god

 

[theunflushables]

Of course it's going to say that in the Bible. I mean hell if I was making up a religion that would be one of the first things I would put in it. Easy way to keep my believing masses in line when my god doesnt answer they're prayers.

Also if you want to add to this conversation, don't use your scripture to say that you are right. That's like defining a word by using the very same word.

And so I'm not hijacking the whole conversation about gay parents. My point I was originally trying to get at is we shouldn't allow a group thats in the minority (Evangelical Christians) and at the same time tells everyone they are the majority, run our country. We were founded on the principles of freedom, equality (I'm trying not laugh as I say this), and justice. Now some 230 odd years later those in power are denying people their personal freedoms because their god "doesn't approve". Well, they can take their Old Testicle and New Testicle and shove it up their asses.

 

[jtrain 289]

lol thats what everyone thinks everyone thinks that the bible is only religion but read it . The bible explains Science (the creation ) the humanities which is human nature Do you know how many poems their are in the bible buddy. All these great philosiphers look mainly in the bible for answers. Most of those ancient laws that people still keep today are from the Bible man. Our founding fathers the people that founded this country the ones that wrote the constitution got it from the bible. When you read the bible its not only talking about religion it covers every single aspect of life . Eevrything we do centers around it. This is why now people are trying to be outside of the bible and this is exactly why you find our society turning upside down.

 

[jtrain 289]

We were founded on the principles of freedom, equality (I'm trying not laugh as I say this), and justice. Now some 230 odd years later those in power are denying people their personal freedoms because their god "doesn't approve

Buddy when America was first founded We were so much more strict then we are now man lol Our constitution The Laws were all founded by the bible. And its very stupid that your trying to compare the new and old testement to testicles lol . Thats a big mistake You cant avoid the bible its impossible. do you know what B.C stands for before christ lol A.D stands for something with Christ to this world revolves around the scripture. Without it their would be no worlds.

 

[theunflushables]

Yes we were much more strict when america was founded but that has just as much to do with societal norms as it does with religion. Rember Thomas Jefferson, he was a Theist, and Benjamin Franklin was an Atheist.

And yes, society does revolve around Christianity, but its not like we have a choice now do we. Its pretty much over-exagerated Stockholm Syndrome

Its laughable at best that you state The Bible covers science. Last I knew making a universe out of a wish was considered magic not science. Remember society existed before the bible and without the bible, if there is anything that is making society turn upside down is that we now can use the excuse "god did it" instead of using intelligence and scientific method to figure out true answers.

 

[Last Man Standing]

To indirectly refer to evolutionary process as an accidental, or random phenemenon, is a great way of saying "I know nothing about science, or how living things have learned to adapt and survive to an ever-changing, and harsh environment". You will never be able to truly learn, LMS, until you let go of your baseless, dogmatic, faith-based, and cult-like creed(s).

My dogma is truth and "truth" is what it is!!! I belong to no faith and do not go to any church - my creed is "truth"!!!

"Evolution" as stated by darwin has absolutely no scientific foundation - you, as he, are delusional and unscientific!!

okay but what does that have to do with what I am saying?

People are saying w/o both parents (but mostly w/o the father) it is a 'sub-optimal' living standard for males. However, what if your mother was a pimp (in the literal sense) or your dad was an AFC or w/e? I dont care who chose it at birth or who isnt playing their roles or w/e u are talking about, but to call two parents an 'optimal' situation right off the bat is contrived to say the least

Women can't be "pimps"but I'll play along. What you describe are "exceptions", "Freaks of Nature", "unnatural forced events", aberrations!!

Read this, I explained it here... http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=50480

 

[theunflushables]

My dogma is truth and "truth" is what it is!!! I belong to no faith and do not go to any church - my creed is "truth"!!

No your creed is your opinion. If you think its truth, especially universal truth, you are the one who is delusional.

It's like if I were to say the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true god and all who reject his noodly appendage shall spend an eternity in Hell where the beer is flat and the strippers have VD, you would laugh and say I'm crazy.

Until you or anybody else can deliver had scientifc fact to prove a god exists, I will choose to be an atheist. However you can't deliver fact becuase once you have denied faith. Here is an example put forth by Douglas Adams.

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God. The argument goes something like this:
"I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."

"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves that you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. Q.E.D."

"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic."