Originally posted by smoke city
I'm not saying that your way is lame--you can dislike gays and their lifestyle all you want. I think that this view is flawed, ill-conceived, and is more the product of popular "programming" than anything else (remember that yours is actually the predominant view, especially in the U.S.) But of course that's my business, and I don't think any less of you for it.
BUT making jokes that degrade ANY group is another story. It's not the BELIEF that's the problem--it's the ACTION.
Usually people make JOKES about gays because they're *uncomfortable with the lifestyle (disapproval aside) and this is a symptom of ignorance and of weakness of character. Oh and the "dude, isn't that a little gay???" comment is nothing but a trite, miserably failed attempt at humor. Being funny at the expense of others is the blunt tool of a dull mind.
So yes I think it's totally LAME and WEAK to be hateful and derisive toward Jews, gays, blacks, christians, republicans, women, or any other group...and I say if you care about showing your strength and integrity--which you want to do if you'd like to make friends and attract women--then instead of making sweeping ignorant statements about groups of people you should keep your flapping mouth shut.
1. I stated that I do not make jokes about gays.
2. I also do not lump them in with the rest as you did. Us Blacks hate that when you guys put them in the racial pot with us. We Abhor it. We didn't ask for them to be on our bandwagon. Even though gays say it's by birth...it's still a choice. They still make a choice whether to suck a mans dyck or not. In my case I have no choice as to the color of my skin.
3. My problem was your usage of the word AFC. That word is bantered around too freely on this site. It's not AFC to crack jokes on gays. It's not bigotry either. It's sexual prefrence dislike. AFC has to do with your handling yourself as a man towards women. How do gays come into the equation. Hell they don't even desire women!
4. So take gays outta the pot bro. Put them in the sexual prefference dislike pile not the race, creed or religion pile called bigotry. This is from someone who is in that pile...which means I'm not like you...on the outside looking in...I am deep in the heart of it trying to teach you how it is.
5. I agree making fun of folks cause of the color of their skin, or church is not a good thing in most situations. I guess you would hate Don Rickles the old comedian then wouldn't you.
6. As I stated about the usage of the word AFC and in conjunction with that, is some heads think that by calling something AFC that they can influence others to their way of thinking. That's punkish and weak to me. Only real information should be used instead of just calling something AFC and copping out with a quick remark " Oh that's AFC" "Only AFC's will do that"
Do you see where I'm going with this?
I just wanna keep the newbies who are as I am about the whole gay issue pure also
7. Lastly you said that my views on the gay agenda are "flawed, ill-conceived, " Show me how my views are in error. Show me where the gay lifestyle is the correct lifestyle to have for mankind.
And as far as popular programming...this is where you have err'd. Our way isn't programmed. It's just natures way. Your way is through the media and the gay agenda. You are not old enough to recall how it was before gays came out of the closet and you were not aware of all the subtle changes over the last 25 years within society throught the useage of media.
As I stated you grew up with this programming in place. As they wanted. Being gay is ok with you. This may come as a complete surprise to you but it used to not be that way.
Back in the days before the 80's gays were actually in the closet about their sexual practices and fetishes. Most of them got therapy or commited suicide (the honorable thing to do).
They kept their debase sexual appetites in the dark. Parents only had to worry about occasional molestation by known gay men of the youth of this country.
The Mambla organization didn't exist back then. There were no faggots taking photos of pretty 6-10 year old white boys for their magazines.
It was all in the dark where it belonged. The world doesn't need to accept a sexual disfunction. We need to heal it. Find out why some are this way and find a solution...not glorify it and parade it around like the 2nd coming of jesus.
Look at how society has been sold the bill of goods by the lesbians and the adult industry by showing 2 girls doing it. Andnow our women want to be with other women instead of us.
If only those saps hadda known the truth back then.
If only we hadda known the end result of that whole gay movement back in the 80's.
Now we have queer as folks...will and bracey...queer eye for the real guy...and all the rest of gay supported projects.
Nevermind the " it's a conspiracy nut" cause you haven't lived this one either as you haven't lived being black.
I'm done.