gather aroud, as I tell a true story about how AFCness can Kill

[AFK Protector]

Seriously wtf is up with you people denying stories? Do you get a kick out of finding a hole in someone's story? ON A ****ING FORUM?!?! WTF

Goddam, and why would they lie anyways? GODDAM. Mind over MAtter shut you up good.

 

[dietzcoi]

Of course PR_L was right!

I am amazed at the chumps who still come on here and say it is OK to send your GF to a party without you and then come pick her up.

That is NOT part of a relationship, chumps! That is being used and abused by a hoe!

God help us, Chumps are multiplying!

Why are you on this site if you think a man should have to cater to his hoe GF???

Dietzcoi

 

[The TallOne]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
it is a true story, stop giving him sh!t and listen:

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200%7E23148%7E1212786,00.html

If he had posted the link to the article, then it would have been different.

But, he had posted two different facts, what do you expect me to do, not point it out?

 

[The TallOne]

Originally posted by AFK Protector
Seriously wtf is up with you people denying stories? Do you get a kick out of finding a hole in someone's story? ON A ****ING FORUM?!?! WTF

Goddam, and why would they lie anyways? GODDAM. Mind over MAtter shut you up good.

Oh please, people lie over the net all the time.

People lie to make themselves feel good, they lie to make other people feed bad... etc.

 

[DJ naruto]

First of all guys, this is one of the most ridiculous threads I'v come across on this site, exposing some of the most preposterous and illogical arguments I've ever heard.

For one thing, the fvking guy died trying to do what he thought was the right thing. Why fcking make him look like an @ss... I guess you haven't ever heard of the quote "Let the good be interred with Caesar."

Next, I don't see how picking up your girlfriend is intrinsically bad or AFC. Basically, from perusing this thread I gagner that being a DJ involves becoming a utter ****head. Just because your girlfriend made the mistake of going to a football party, doesn't mean that you have to leave her stranded there. What if something bad happens to her? (Oh i get it u don't give a **** about ur girl.) Picking her up is the thing any decent person would do. Personally, I would pick her up and fvking damp her @ss right there and then. Why would I pick her up? As a her boyfriend or friend, I have an obligation -- at least according to my principles-- to ensure that she's ok. (And if i was attacked by the football playas I would've destroyed them. A little kung fu goes a long way .) Since you guys wouldn't help a friend or girlfriend, it begs the question "Can you be trusted to back your friend up in an altercation?" Yes, no ?

Chris died because of the blockheadedness of the football playa not because of his own AFCness. If a stupid @ss football can't get it through his thick skull that not everyone is as resilient as his opponents on the field, then he should be placed in jail forever for his own protection. (He's probably dumb enough to inflict harm on himself without even knowning it.)

What is good or bad, or what is right or wrong, have nothing to do with being an AFC or a DJ. Reading through all the posts in the DJ Bible, I learned -- and hopefully u guys did too-- that being a DJ is not about being a jerk or a nice jerk, but its being a good guy that doesn't take ****. As long as you don't take ****, you are not being a tool, the epitome of AFCness. What you guys are descriping is what a JERK would do .

Anywayz, thats my two cents.

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Next, I don't see how picking up your girlfriend is intrinsically bad or AFC. Basically, from perusing this thread I gagner that being a DJ involves becoming a utter ****head. Just because your girlfriend made the mistake of going to a football party, doesn't mean that you have to leave her stranded there. What if something bad happens to her? (Oh i get it u don't give a **** about ur girl.) Picking her up is the thing any decent person would do. Personally, I would pick her up and fvking damp her @ss right there and then. Why would I pick her up? As a her boyfriend or friend, I have an obligation -- at least according to my principles-- to ensure that she's ok.

Why bother? She went fvck other guys and you even care if she's in danger??? YOU'RE NOT HER BODYGUARD neither a policeman!

Someone, please close this thread!

 

[The Rev]

I see a different "lesson" here...the consequences when "male power" goes out of control, when guys are so into themselves, so out of touch with reality, so loaded with testosterone, so completely STUPID that they kill.

Maybe instead of blaming the victim, the "AFC", let's blame the dumbasses who actual did the crime. Shocking, no?

 

[Ricky]

Two things pop to mind

1) It is bull**** that this recruit is now getting offers and only did 2 years for killing the guy

2) If a girl asks you to pick her up, maybe she's drunk and you picking her up will save some other lives from her driving drunk. I've had to do this for one of my girlfriends before and she has done it for me when I couldn't drive. That has nothing to do with being an AFC or DJ it is just called doing the right thing to save someone from doing something stupid like drinking and driving.

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

This could just as easily be titled "true story about how being a football player can kill".... it would still use the same logical fallacy but it would even be a little more accurate.

Either way, this thread has turned into Anything Else material.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by Ricky
Two things pop to mind

1) It is bull**** that this recruit is now getting offers and only did 2 years for killing the guy

2) If a girl asks you to pick her up, maybe she's drunk and you picking her up will save some other lives from her driving drunk. I've had to do this for one of my girlfriends before and she has done it for me when I couldn't drive. That has nothing to do with being an AFC or DJ it is just called doing the right thing to save someone from doing something stupid like drinking and driving.

first, I didn't post the link to the story becuase I honestly didnt' want to look for it. It is a hot topic on an arkansas recruiting board.

Also, the reason he got the offer is he supposetly did a 180 with his life. Coaches who have seen him claim that, and the only reason K-State took away the offer is becuase they have 2 commits who are considered better that don't have the baggage.

 

[backbreaker]

the point is, you know she just put out to the football team, or at least someone on the football team, and you are going to go and pick her up. I don't think that's what Don Juan would have done.

How can someone talk about being a catch when you are willing to do spinless **** like that?

 

[Skel]

your story has nothing to do with an AFC. The person who kicked him in the head should die. Please stop posting useless things. You are lame and need attention, seek it elsewhere.

 

[m4a1]

A teenager was killed and all you guys can think about is being AFC or DJ?

You don't know the exact story behind this, CHRIS IS DEAD, HE'S NOT HERE TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, and the football players probably don't know either, or won't say.

There are a bunch of scenarios for this story, none of you know the truth.

I'm mostly pissed off at the amount of injustice related to this. Wood is a murderer who got only 2 years, and on the news website, all they kept talking about is his scholarships and football skills, who gives a fvck!? Is that why O.J. Simpson walked free?... some one tell me.

 

[A-Unit]

Re:

First off, not everything in life stands to mean something so finite. Just because this kid went to a party doing what he thought at the time was right, does not mean he's "AFC" Extremism of this magnitude is akin to the Bush Regime trying to use scare tactics to have us believe Terrorism is some new, evil plot.

Secondly, when someone dies, the rules of the game go out the window.

The biggest issue here is that people break life into these small bite sized morcels where they feel no consequences exist, where if a mistake happens, they want to be forgiven, as if they learned, as if you can say "uncle" and give in and have things reversed.

I can say from having dated cheerleaders that put in that situation, the same might have befallen me. I had cheerleadering girls that met up with the players and I went right after to the party. If you date a girl so egotistical as to need roles, identities, etc, then it's your own fault what occurs. That's your "Effect" of the "Cause" you chose. What was left out was...

Why did she go?
Was she so drunk she had to be picked up?
Did she have a player that was a brother?

Don't be so narrow-winded as to deal the "slut card" just because she went and he died.

Tell me, if they let him go free, would he be so noble as to wear memorabilia to Chris O'Leary?

The law is right.
Cause~~~~> EFFECT.
You killed their family's "dream" (Chris).
Woods should lose his "dream (football).

This post highlights the extreme to which some posters have taken women, alpha concepts, courting, dating, sex, and the sex. When you look at life in such finite terms of everything as AFC or Non-AFC, you've been here too long. Your own mentality is consumed with dating dynamics to the detriment of everything else in life.

The other piece of that article bugs me. The part talking about how "Woods worked hard to change things in return for a reward of playing football." You should work hard no matter what. Doing those "deeds" to get the grant from the family to play football is stupid. It's like...

"Look I did good mom, I'm sorry I killed your son. I promise not to kill again, and be a model citizen. Can I go play now?"

He wouldn't have made changes had this not occurred, so what he learns is that life isn't that easy. Good. That you own your mistakes. He might have the ability of an athlete, but not the character. He does not belong playing a Game that Pat Tillman gave up to fight on behalf of the country where he gave his life, and Woods took a life.



A-Unit

 

[Ice Cold]

how do u know she was fckd?

 

[Labayu]

Seriously wtf is up with you people denying stories? Do you get a kick out of finding a hole in someone's story? ON A ****ING FORUM?!?! WTF

Because it sounds like an urban myth (even if it isnt)

Because he's assuming that ALL girls who go to a football party get gang-banged (sounds to me like someone hasn't been to ANY football parties)

Because he made it sound like, if you're not on the football team OR if your dumb enough to give your girlfriend a lift home (who might, just might want to come back because shes drunk and the quaterbacks becoming a little too friendly), then you deserve to die.

Because you guys are starting to sound/act like 14 year olds who sit behind a computer going "we're the knights who say nee! Nee! Nee!..."

...mmm, there may be a reason for that.

And for any smart arses out there I'm emailing from work

 

[AC/DC]

1.) This is stupid.
2.) How do we know that this girl was sleeping with other guys?
3.) If someone tried to touch my girl, I'd f*ckin break their arms. I'm not playing. No one touches my woman.

You can look at it as being an AFC as a "bodyguard", but if you're gonna touch my baby, I'ma F*CK YOU UP. That's some sh*t I'd be proud to die for, for a good cause.

Chris is up there in heaven now, God's watchin over him. Noble sacrifice.

 

[Sweet Ken]

backbreaker, AC/DC, I'm disappointed in both of you. I've been around a long time, and I'm surprised to see these comments coming from you two.

AC/DC-Well aren't you the big bad Alpha Male? Uh oh, don't look at his girl or he's gonna start fighting everybody! What a big strong man! You'd be proud to die "defending" your "baby" from guys she was flirting with? To actually die...for a woman? The only women I'd die defending are my mom and my sisters. THAT would be a noble sacrifice. But for a girl? I don't like to use the term AFC (or DJ for that matter) but damn, only a true chump could say something like that. I guess if she was being attacked, ok...but this girl wasn't being attacked, although she was being pounded. Have you ever heard the phrase "Love is the idea that one woman differs from another."? Know what you should do if someone touches your girl? GET A NEW AND BETTER ONE.

backbreaker-ugh, where do I begin? Nothing is life or death in regards to women. O'Leary's "AFCness" had nothing to do with his death. True, he sholdn't have gone to pick her hoe ass up, but being murdered shouldn't have crossed his mind as a risk. He's not the criminal here, but the victim. True, i wasn't there, so I don't know what O'Leary did to provoke the jocks...BUT COME ON.

You used this article to point out some wuss behavior. And we can learn a little bit from that. But come on, man-the guy got killed by some thugs. The girl, and the way O'leary behaved, have NOTHING in common with seduction. Being an AFC can't get you killed, except for the slow, miserable death an AFC life brings eventually.

You can do better. Think about it-do you really need to stretch a dating philosophy this far?

As for the situation, it sounds like Woods didn't actually kill O'Leary. it sounds like both guys were in the wrong place at the wrong time. The other guys did the killing (and they got light ass sentences too!) He did his time, he should be allowed to go to college on scholarship for football. However, give him this stipulation: he may never play professional football, in any way, shape or form, no matter how good he is. Missing out on that sounds fair to me.

And for those that say O'Leary did the right thing in picking her up, that say "it's part of a relationship": you're telling me that in a party full of people, that probably all drive nice cars, she couldn't find one person to give her a ride? That she had to pull this sorry kid's butt out of bed at 2 AM to pick her up from a party he wasn't invited to, full of athletic, masculine football players? DUH. That's a pretty one-sided relationship to me. And if she really wanted to see him because she was tired of getting hit on, why didn't she call him sooner? The girl was a straight-up slut. No question. Get a clue. If you want to believe otherwise, go give Dr. Phil a call.

 

[Thraxeh]

Originally posted by Sweet Ken

And for those that say O'Leary did the right thing in picking her up, that say "it's part of a relationship": you're telling me that in a party full of people, that probably all drive nice cars, she couldn't find one person to give her a ride? That she had to pull this sorry kid's butt out of bed at 2 AM to pick her up from a party he wasn't invited to, full of athletic, masculine football players? DUH. That's a pretty one-sided relationship to me. And if she really wanted to see him because she was tired of getting hit on, why didn't she call him sooner? The girl was a straight-up slut. No question. Get a clue. If you want to believe otherwise, go give Dr. Phil a call.

remember that we have no idea what happened during the night, the footballers could have been drunk, and were stopping her from leaving the party or calling someone, so she rang chris eventully.

now chris arives and trys to get the girl, but the drunk footballers need some loving so they kick chris so he doesnt take the girl away.

 

[backbreaker]

First, I don't see why everyone thinks I am wrong.

Even if she didn't have sex, which I am pretty sure she did, you can't deny the fact that she went to the party becuase she was interested in someone else.

I told my GF the story and she told me the same thing I am telling you; that she had sex wtih someone and at the least she WANTED to have sex with one of the players.