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F*ck the Middle East and the Gas Companies

$3.15 a gallon I paid today. And that was at the cheapest place in town. This is getting out of hand.

What really pisses me off is that companies like Exxon are still making huge profits. They see that they can raise the prices of gas because people will just blame it on the Middle East and the government.

And, man, why haven't we taken over the Middle East yet? Nothing good comes from there. Now, I know there are good, innocent people there, so that's why we won't bomb it. But we at least need to take it over, if not to stop all those terrorists, but so we can get our f*cking economy back on track. All the good people there would be much better off if they weren't under the rule of ruthless dictators. Anyone that tries to resist, BAM! cap in the ass. We need to team up with Britain and maybe Japan or something and just go in there and take over.

So, how much is gas where you live?
 

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$6, MINIMUM. Thats why I don't drive, quite frankly I'd rather spend my money on something else.

I suggest that you stop complaining until they are at European prices!
 

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Gas prices... (semi rant)

I just paid $3.19 for gas about an hour ago. $20 for 5 fvcking gallons is outrageous. (its the most I could spare at the moment) I've never seen it this high before. I'm glad I have an efficient car. Right now, there is no way in fvck that I would ever buy an SUV.

I remember when gas was about $1.50 -1.70 gal. last year. I suspect price gouging on the part of the oil companies-- they got us by the balls and they know it, and they're capitalizing on it. Of course, they claim that it's a matter of supply and demand, but that's what Enron said too. It can't be a cooincidence that a lot of refineries (especially here in Cali) are not functioning when we need them most.
If the companies are price gouging, then I feel that whoever is in charge of that deserves to go to hell and be a$$-fvcked without lube with a spiked dildo for eternity. :mad: :cuss:

I realize that Hurricane Katrina has something to do with the spike in oil prices, but hopefully it will come down to reasonable levels again soon.

Sorry about the rant, but I had to get that off of my chest.

[edit] whoops, I totally swear that I didn't see the other thread when I posted. Mods, please merge this with the other thread. Thanks.
 

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I just made a similar thread about 5 minutes before you.

About Hurricane Katrina, I heard that when things like that happen, it takes between 18 and 24 days for it to affect the gas prices. So, I expect they're going to go up even more.

And, yes, I've also heard that the companies are price gouging.
 

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Bush has no reason to put the Iraqi oil on the market. Why would you sell something now that you know will be worth double in a few years?

And those oil companies that are making millions off the gas price hike are the same ones responsible for much of the toxicity of the flood water - the area is dense with oil refineries.
 

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Guys, learn some Econ 101 before posting on this issue.
 

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Originally posted by Derek Flint
Guys, learn some Econ 101 before posting on this issue.
Well why don't you enlighten us with your knowledge then. I'm not saying you're wrong and don't know anything about it, but if you're going to make a statement like that, then back it up. All I know is that gas is way too expensive right now and probably doesn't need to be.
 

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Originally posted by Derek Flint
Guys, learn some Econ 101 before posting on this issue.
The issue at hand is....gas is 6 dollars a damn gallon and that sir is re-goddamn-diculous.
 

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Yeah, lucky I live in a big city, I've stopped driving and I'm now taking public transport. Carpooling is also an option, many universities actually offer discounted parking for carpoolers.
 

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And now, let's watch the lynch mob run wild....
 

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And the damn governments aren't any help either, there's a 45% tax on gas here in canada and I heard that there's a 70% tax on gas in the UK
 

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Re: F*ck the Middle East and the Gas Companies

Originally posted by familyguyfan
$3.15 a gallon I paid today. And that was at the cheapest place in town. This is getting out of hand.

What really pisses me off is that companies like Exxon are still making huge profits. They see that they can raise the prices of gas because people will just blame it on the Middle East and the government.

And, man, why haven't we taken over the Middle East yet? Nothing good comes from there. Now, I know there are good, innocent people there, so that's why we won't bomb it. But we at least need to take it over, if not to stop all those terrorists, but so we can get our f*cking economy back on track. All the good people there would be much better off if they weren't under the rule of ruthless dictators. Anyone that tries to resist, BAM! cap in the ass. We need to team up with Britain and maybe Japan or something and just go in there and take over.

So, how much is gas where you live?

HAHA I love this guy! "BAM! cap in the ass" HAHAHAHAHAHA
Well, yeah back to the gas. It's around $3 this morining. It's probably even higher now in Delaware. Where is it $6?

I have a comment to make about taking over the middle east. I totally agree with you. I'm currently reading this book 48 Laws of POWER. Basically history and psycology. Well one of the laws is to completly obliterate your enemy or else he will destroy you. It gave examples in history and it's completely true. IF we go there and half heartedly take over and not DESTROY THEM. They will retaliate and become angrier and angrier. Like a snake, if you step on it and it's half dead, it will come back and bite you because you didn't kill it. This bite will probably kill you due to the venom and whatnot. Now I'm not saying kill all these people, unfortunately that's not possible due to all these DEMOCRATS in this world. THEY don't understand that its either us or them. Well anyway this book says that if you can't "kill" them then you have to keep them under control, by just like familyguyfan says, BAM! cap in the ass. And not giving them any chance of power.
 

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It's really simple - demand is exceeding supply.

China's economy is growing, as is their dependence on oil.

Oil can only be extracted at a certain rate or barrells per day.

Not to mention, there is less and less economically recoverable oil, so the cost to extract it from the ground is going to cost more as well.

On top of that, no new refineries have been built in the US for years, which contributes to the problem.

What's worse, is when one or more of those refineries or when the refining capacity takes even a minor hit, the ripple effect can be catastrophic.

A 10% reduction in refining capacity due to a hurricane will have a huge effect on supply, while demand stays the same.

Factor in other variables like "regional" fuels, for which the requirements were just suspended - oil companies have to create different blends of fuel for different regions, based on local and state regulations. So while fuel may be cheap and plentiful in Atlanta, it may not be in San Francisco, for example, based on that regions regulations.

Or remember a few years back in Arizona, when they had that gas pipeline problem and had a gas shortage due to the fact that they had to use a regional blend?

This over-reliance on a
select few heavily-regulated refineries for special blends of gasoline allows for significant disruptions in prices if a single refinery encounters problems, or if demand temporarily exceeds total operating capacity.

Is OPEC engaging in price fixing and collusion?

Somewhat, but we get our oil from other places than the Middle East, such as Venezuela and Mexico.

Regardless, the oil companies have to pay what OPEC and other countries sell their oil for, convert it gasonline and and sell it.

Cheap, plentiful oil would benifit the oil companies, because they could increase their profit margin on a gallon of gas, and sell more of it, since lower prices would lead to increased use.

The oil companies would rather pay $35.00 per barrell than $70.00 per barrell.

The reason some oil companies (not all, as some US oil companies lost money last year, which never seems to get reported) are making record profits is because they are selling a record amount of product, due mostly to demand.

Also, some oil companies extract a certain percentage of their oil, while buying a percentage on the open market.

The companies that are in a position to extract oil than buy it are going to maximize their profits.

When people break out the "oil companies are making record profits" argument, it doesn't always tell the whole story.

Also, when oil companies make profits, people act like that's a bad thing.

They're a business, and they're in it to make money.

If they don't, they go out of business which leads to more monopolies, more price-fixing etc..

Profits also are used to explore for more oil and to maximize the make the extraction process more efficient, which leads to more supply for the consumer.

On the other hand, price-gouging in emergencies does take place, and those responsible need to be held accountable.

And the oil companies aren't exactly the most ethical businesses out there, but too many people make the intellectually lazy argument of blindly blaming them instead of actually doing the homework and learning how and why things are the way they are.

It's always easiest to blame "the man" for whatever, just like many afc's blame others for their lack of success with women.

And I wouldn't expect gas prices to come down much either, as the amount of economically recovarble oil becomes more and more scarce.

Their is lots of oil of the CA and FL coasts and in Alaska, but laws and regulations currently prohibit or exploration or make it not cost-efficient.

Long-term is to explore other options, such as Hydrogen powered cars, but that too is not cost-effcient at this point.

Bottom line is that things will get worse before they get better, and there really is no one to blame or fault, although doing so might make some people feel better.
 

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We really need to get that Alaskan pipeline going. F*ck those worthless environmentalists. I fail to see how laying a big pipe down on the ground would affect the Alaskan wilderness so much that it's worth all this money we could be saving.


And bluelemond has the right idea. Many of the people that argue against taking over the Middle East reason that there are plenty of good people living there amidst all the f*cked up ones. Well, those good people should be happy to have some sane people like us going in there and knocking out their ruthless dictators. Then we just destroy all the resistors. This won't be any nice stuff either. Any of them try and protest, we just mow em' down.
 

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Complaining is the opposite of what a true DJ would do.

Complaining is verbally or via writing showing your distaste for something without coming up with possible solutions.

No matter how much you cry, gas prices will keep rising.

Those companies mustve just realized that no matter how much they charge, everyone's gonna pay it.

Complaining about it doesn't put money in your pocket.
 

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I don't get it, why is oil so high(besides Katrina)? Is it because of Iraq? Im not great in economy can some one elighten me?

Oh ps, how screwed is our future?
With the Iraq war planned for a few more years.
Rebuilding after Katrina which will take decades
And the Oil prices which I doubt will improve any time soon or years for that matter.
 

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Originally posted by Luveno
Complaining is the opposite of what a true DJ would do.

Complaining is verbally or via writing showing your distaste for something without coming up with possible solutions.

No matter how much you cry, gas prices will keep rising.

Those companies mustve just realized that no matter how much they charge, everyone's gonna pay it.

Complaining about it doesn't put money in your pocket.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you that obsessed with being a "true DJ" that you base your whole life around it? I don't give a sh*t if a "true DJ" complains or not, if I feel like complaining I'm gonna complain. I don't base my decisions on whether or not I'm being a DJ in the process. If I want to do something, I do it. This website and DJing in general is about getting women, you don't need to let this sh*t control your life.

And while complaining doesn't help, it's not like it's hurting us either. Furthermore, notice no one that has posted has just said something like "Boohoo, gas is too expensive!". People have been posting on why they think it is that way and what they think needs to be done to fix this problem. Sure, it won't help get rid of the problem, but it's nice to know why it's occurring and when and how it will stop.
 

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Re: ?

Originally posted by HateOnMe
I don't get it, why is oil so high(besides Katrina)? Is it because of Iraq? Im not great in economy can some one elighten me?

Oh ps, how screwed is our future?
With the Iraq war planned for a few more years.
Rebuilding after Katrina which will take decades
And the Oil prices which I doubt will improve any time soon or years for that matter.
Again, demand is exceeding supply.

China's growing economy has something to do with it, as does the fact that there is less and less economically recovarable oil available.

Oil is not an infinite resource.
 

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