Gaming Women In Relationships : Initial Tips

[Rival]

Gaming Women in Relationships: Breaking through Taboo/Initial Tips

I remember back when I first started college, I was a little late to the scene as I worked a few years after graduating. My dating record back then was poor to say the least. I hit college and noticed a lot of beautiful women. It turned out most of the women that I ended up talking to were in relationships. Thinking about how unfair this was, I became frustrated and annoyed. I thought only if I had a fair chance with them, surely they would see that they could have much more fun with me. Most men have thought this way at least once in their life. Many men fall into the trap of thinking they don’t have a chance with a girl in a relationship. As my life would play out, I begun to realize this is one of the biggest misconceptions of dating then and now.

Guys seem to have mixed thoughts on girls in relationships or long term relationships (LTRs). Most see scoring with these girls, or even trying, as taboo and tend to be hesitant in approaching women in relationships. Sadly, they are missing out on a good majority of women. A great portion of all the women you meet in your life will be in a relationship. So by not working your game on them, you are essentially limiting your pool of resources to just single women and losing valuable practice as well.

Some of the most fun I've ever had with women came from ones that were in relationships when I first met them. Last summer, I was at a party for a football game with a group of friends. There was this smoking hot red head who was actually hosting the party. I had met her a few times before at other parties but she was always in a relationship. She showed some interest the few times we talked, but I always kept my cool and remained smooth. This was the first time she had hosted a party for our social group, she and her boyfriend had just bought a house and she was excited to have friends over for the first time. Later that evening, she would climb on top of me and literally beg me for sex in her boyfriend’s bed. If I had not realized that I had a chance with her, even though she was currently in a relationship, this crazy sexual experience would have never happened. What you must realize, is that relationships with many women, are nothing more than mere words to them. The right guy, at the right time, with the right style has a chance with any girl. Having said that, the tips I describe below can help you accomplish such success.

I’ve had friends ask me, “Why should we even be interested in a girl that's in a relationship?” She is happy and in love, right? Maybe not. Here are a few reasons why I would argue that you SHOULD give women in relationships more than just a second thought.

1. Just because she is taken today, doesn't mean she will be tomorrow. The majority of girls I've got into long-term relationships with had a boyfriend when I first started talking to them. One front desk girl at a gym I was training at told me in our first conversation she had a boyfriend at a local college. I shrugged it off and kept talking about her and relating her to me. Eventually a few weeks later, she asked me for a “free” training session and gave me her number. It turned out, she and the boyfriend were having trouble and she was looking for someone new without even really letting me know. Long story short, I ended up hooking up with her for quite a while. This was all because I took some small time to invest in her when she had boyfriend and realized that just because she was taken at the moment didn’t mean much.

2. The longer the girl has been in the relationship the more likely she is bored and possibly having mixed thoughts about her "significant" other. Let's face it, people get bored of each other. It's natural and happens in a majority of relationships. This is even more apparent with the guy who doesn't know how to properly keep his girl interested. I've had many girls in relationships give me their number, almost daring me to act. Girl's love excitement and drama, both of which are emotional. A new and interesting guy talking to her can get her mind thinking, which is the first step. One girl I dated, was a beautiful blonde girl who was rather young. At the time, she had a boyfriend and I was just casually talking to her. She happened to mention to me her boyfriend had canceled plans with her to hang out with his friends. Seeing the opportunity, I suggested her and I go out and do their previous plans plus something extra (My own touch). She happily agreed and we were in a relationship a few months later. Most girls early on in relationships haven’t sunk into the guy yet or the ones who have been dating him for a while might just be bored, never assume everything is perfect in paradise.

3. My personal opinion is that girls in long term relationships are better quality women. They have something that other men want. It could be a nice personality, a successful career, or just really great sex. I would say on average, engaged girls and girls in LTRs are better quality women than your single girls hanging out in a bar/club if you are actually looking for a relationship of any sort. Something about these girls was special enough that their previous boyfriends wanted to keep them around, that’s something you need to take into account. Totally disregarding girls in relationships may make you miss out on some of the better ones you currently have access to.

Great, so now you’re interested but wonder how do I game these girls? When I was first starting out, I thought the same thing. I began to research and ask fellow friends who I knew had great success with women for some advice. Through their knowledge and my own trials and errors, I begun to realize some of the base concepts of gaming women in relationships. The following tips should give you a great general idea on how to approach women and act around those in relationships.

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[Rival]

Note: These tips are more for girls you will be in contact with on a regular basis: School, Work, Gym, Social Groups or any other place you might run into the same girl a few times a week.

1. Fine line between the friend zone and interest zone. (this could be a separate article, more in depth, what is wrote is just a general concept)
When you first meet a girl and she drops the boyfriend/fiancé word. You can’t be phased by it. In a way, this is a test. Many times when I had a girl tell me she had a boyfriend I would casually respond back with “Yeah, you seem like the type that would settle down “or something similar. Then we would both laugh and she would usually respond about her relationship in some way, which can give you some early insight. Keep your cool and talk to her like you would a single girl, casually interested. The trick here is balance the line between friend zone and interest zone. Only build some base rapport and don’t overly talk to her or bombard her with questions. Try to find some mutual interests you two might have in common. Don’t tell her your life story nor ask hers. The goal here is to have her view you as an interesting guy, nothing more or less at this point. First impressions mean a lot to a girl. Come across as confident, funny, interesting and in control.

2. Casually flirting (body language, eyes, meaningful words)
Since you are seeing this girl a few times a week, choose your words and actions carefully. Make sure the few times you talk to her, you have positive body language (eye contact, straight posture, calm but powerful voice and have a plan for the flow of your conversation (tip 3 will get more into this). Body language says more to a girl than most men realize. Your eyes tell her how confident you are, the way you look when your walking is also important in the same regard. Slow everything down, from your walk to the speed of your words. Keep your eyes forward and make strong eye contact when you see her, a slight grin wouldn’t hurt either. Making a girl laugh is also equally important. This will make them feel comfortable around you. Since she’s in a relationship, you always want her wondering if you’re flirting or just being nice. I strongly believe attraction is somewhere between the girl knowing you like her and wondering if you don’t, at least initially. Always have that mind set when talking to any girl you’re interested in, in a relationship or not.

3. Mutual interests/Group Hangouts
I like having some sort of game plan when talking to women in relationships. Lead the conversation to where you want it to go. Your aim here is to get them hanging out with you. Getting these girls out a single time is half the battle, either in a group setting or alone. One time I had met a new, sexy brunette girl in class who had just recently moved here and was dating a guy. I overheard her talking about working out. So the next time I saw her, I brought up working out and let her know I worked out as well. We talked quite a bit about that alone and I ended the conversation and walked away. Finding that mutual interest was paramount. The next time I saw her we talked about working out again and I brought up her jogging with me and another friend soon, as I knew a great place nearby. We exchanged contacts, she came to jog, and we ended up dating not long afterwards. This is a very easy way to get a number from a girl in a relationship. You have to be very subtle and almost nonchalant. Let her wonder about your intentions. If you can find some mutual interests you two have, you can come up with activities she is more inclined to want to partake in.

4. Bread Crumbs/Passive-Persistence
The above tips could be used the first week or even months later. It’s up to you to seize the chances you make or when the opportunity naturally arises. The girl in a relationship is not going to be keeping up with you, most likely. This is why you must leave bread crumbs or give her chances to do something every so often. If she turns down something one week, maybe a week later you bring up something else. You don’t want to be overly aggressive or needy when asking her to hang out but passive-persistence has paid off for me. This is achieved through steady but laid back persistence in trying to get them out. One girl I met had a fiancé and I kept my rapport up with her, walking the fine line between the friend zone and interest zone, and asked to hang out several times, which she declined for various reasons. I shrugged it off and kept my game up, acting as if nothing had happened. Eventually, she agreed to study for a test with me. After our study session, the next time I asked her to do something she was much more willing. She ended up breaking up with her fiancé a few months later and texted me one night around midnight saying, “Hey stranger, where have you been?” I knew immediately my chance had come. If I hadn’t kept dropping bread crumbs throughout the whole time and simply took the first few declines as defeat, I never would have got to enjoy the amazing sex with her that I ended up having.

5. Passing tests/Seeing Opportunity and Acting.

Women are very fickle creatures. They don’t like to be hurt and can be quite sneaky in dropping hints of interest. Women in relationships won’t talk to other men without some sort of reason. (If she texts you, it’s more likely she is interested rather than just trying to get attention) Girls can get attention from most men easily if they want it, girls in relationships usually can even easier from there boyfriend/husband. If she reaches out to you in any way, you need to see it as an opportunity. She is showing interest, what are you going to do about it? Match her interest, never surpass it. Don’t fall prey to her tests either. She may say she’s out with the boyfriend, or reference him or other guys. Sometimes this is purely to see how you will react. If she comments about her and the boyfriend going away for the weekend, I’d respond with something like, “That sounds fun, I’ve had quite the weekend myself”. This allows her to wonder and maybe even ask you questions. This type of response is usually how I deal with “tests”. Again you match them, act un-phased and get her curious.

I dare you to view all women as fair game and let nothing be off limits. Life is a wonderful, crazy experience and one day that very girl you like who is now with someone may just be staring you down with those blue eyes, slowly undressing your shirt. It’s happened to me more than just a few times. You can make it happen too. Go out there and let nothing with women be impossible with you.

 

[Rival]

Very true. I have this one girl in a relationship right now. Actually... Make that 2. I forgot about the newest one.

Enjoy the rep.

One thing I think you should add: keeping your intentions unknown. I know you touched on it, but it's REALLY important with women in relationships. You need to friendzone them and make them think they have no chance with you. It will get them trying to get with you and work at it. They'll text you, check on you, etc. It also allows you to be able to tell if she has interest or not. Maybe even open up a bit to her. Just enough for her to feel she's getting closer to you.

Then, when you hang out, at the beginning of the date give her a slight hint that you may have interest. As the night progresses, drop a few more signs. By the end of the night she'll have so much anticipation that she'll be ready to rip your clothes off

Yeah I agree with you, I've done this to at least a few girls. Friend zoned them and observed their behavior.