Gaming a girl with a boyfriend

[Rubato]

I number closed a girl in class today who has a boyfriend. Here's how it went down.

I'm in anatomy and physiology lab with my book open to a page with a bunch of naked men and women on it (not for any pickup related purposes. I was actually reading). the HB8.5 Anatomy comes up behind me and slams the book shut:

HB: "You shouldn't be looking at dirty pictures like that!" (with a smirk)
Me: "Look, we don't even know each other and you're already getting upset with me for looking at other women. I can't believe you!"
HB: Laughs, smiles, sits down.

A few minutes pass

HB: "You look bored."
Me: "Do you think cartoon characters go to Heaven?"
HB: "Hahaha what?"
Me: "You heard me, do you think they do?"
HB: Laughs and thinks "ummm.... no. they don't!"
Me: "So you're telling me you don't think Winnie the Poo is going to Heaven??"
HB: "Yes, that's what I said."
Me: Looking over at her friend. "Is this girl always this bad? I can't believe her, saying Winnie the Poo is going to hell"

Then she took that back and said he'd probably go to limbo instead and we got derailed on a conversation about the Catholic church's position on limbo and purgatory. Class starts.

I finish my assignment while the teacher is blathering on about something I already knew. Then I take out a blank piece of paper, fold it in to 4ths and draw a tic tac to board on it and put an X in the corner. Hand it to her. And she smiles and we start playing.

I beat her twice.

She draws in O's over my X's. I erase her O's and scribble a huge line through my X's. She draws a picture of pacman eating the tic tac to board. I write "Lame" underneath pacman.

She draws pacman eating my word lame.

We flirt back and forth across the paper like that for a while.

Me: "Didn't you stop passing notes when you graduated from HS? I can't believe how immature you are! I don't think we can be friends!"
HB: "Hey, I just graduated, so I have an excuse! And besides, you started it!"
Me: "Okay, you can stop flirting with me now. You're way too immature for me. I know it will be hard, but try and find a way to stop it!"
HB: "Well, I can't be flirting with you because I have a boyfriend. So that's a big no no."
Me: "I'm really happy to hear you aren't alone! Next time you see him, make sure you give him a big hello from me."
HB: "Ok, but that won't be till Sept 15th."

Class was now over. I turned in my paper. Told her to give me her number. She did.

I texted her "This is your new anatomy friend [insert my name] "



So, what should I do next? I don't want to have a relationship with this girl, I just want to have sex with her. I've never gamed a girl with a BF before, so I'm really not sure what to do. Should I even do anything differently? And given the way she acted towards me today, I don't see her being very serious with this guy. I also heard her telling her friend that they had gotten back together again before graduation, so they've apparently broken up a few times. She's only 18, so I can't take her to a bar and legally can't give her any booze.

I humbly seek your advice

 

[joverby]

Why would you change what your doing when it's been working? Hope that answers your question.

Actions > Words.

She's 18....Has broken up with her boyfriend multiple times. Was flirting with you(initiated it as well) and gave you her #. Not sure what I'm missing, brah!

 

[Rubato]

Why would you change what your doing when it's been working? Hope that answers your question.

Actions > Words.

She's 18....Has broken up with her boyfriend multiple times. Was flirting with you(initiated it as well) and gave you her #. Not sure what I'm missing, brah!

To clarify what I was asking a little better, I was asking if the game dynamics change any for a girl with a BF vs. a girl without a BF. And if they do... how do they?

 

[joverby]

Dude.....Clearly not. It's been the same so far right? The only thing that changes is for her, she has to hide the fact she's talking to / banging you.

She's still a flakey 18 y/o girl at the end of the day. With the same emotionally driven brain.

 

[FairShake]

She is far more ****y and funny than you. What would you bring to the relationship?

 

[Rubato]

She is far more ****y and funny than you. What would you bring to the relationship?

Masculine power, energy, and dominance. And my ****.

 

[FairShake]

Masculine power, energy, and dominance. And my ****.

Overrated all. Except for the stars.

And she doesn't sound like the type to be dominated. Not at all.

 

[PDubb75]

FairShake... I'm not really sure what made you think shes more ****y/funny than him, and isn't the type to be dominated by that story. I thought it was overall very well played by the OP.

OP, to your question: I would say yes, sometimes you would have to game them differently. However, in this case, it seems like what you did was working just fine. The only difference is you may need to deflect b/f comments once in a while. Might take a bit more game to get to her, but maybe not anything different.

 

[Buddha_Mind]

Why are all of you wasting time on chicks with boyfriends?

Don't you know this is bad mojo? Don't you know if she leaves him for you, you'll be on the other end of the stick soon? Are you sure you can keep your emotions detached?

 

[Doctrine Dark]

He just wants to bang her, not date her.

 

[Kirro]

He just wants to bang her, not date her.

Exactly. At least I hope so. If that is the case(as it should be) **** bad mojo, if he's at all competent which he seems so far, he'll get what he wants while spinning plates. & if she doesn't give him what he wants which she will reveal via her actions he'll simply remove his attention & move on.

Right OP?

 

[sexysuave]

Obviously the game is working here, and you played it really well. I've done a bunch of these paper flirting pick ups back in school as well. They can be really fun and a lot of times with flirting and question on the paper you can just write "your # _ _ _ - _ _ _ _" and most of the times they will just fill it out

The only thing you have to do here that's slightly different is get her over to your place right away, or some really small out of the way coffee shop or soemthing close to your place where no one will recognize her. Keep in mind, she has a "bf" (not much of one), so she probably doesnt' wanna be caught.

Her saying "I have a bf, so that's a big no no" is also playing in your hands here a little bit since she seems a little turned on by the taboo of the situation. But at the same time, probably still doestn' wanna get caught.

So invite her over and make sure not to invite her to some populated place. And dont' tell her what you're gonna do or make it soudn like a date, just tell her to "come over and study together", (that's a code for "come over so I can bang you out" LOL)...

When she is over, act right away.. a lot of times guys will build up this attraction with ****y and funny and flirting early on, and then when they get to one on one they ruin it all by being too timid and start talking about serious stuff and just kill any kinda chemistry. if you're not experienced into advancing sexually once you've built up attraction, you're actually better off just grabbing her as she comes in and kissing her right away. She ALREADY is attracted to you, and you can only ruin it by sitting down and talking for like an hour about boring stuff. As soon as the door shuts, just grab her and kiss her right away, french kiss and all, and proceed from there.

Don't even think that you will fail, because if you are flirting with her like this, and she does agree to come over and "study", there is about 95% chance she wan't your ****. So your initial work is done, you just gotta follow through, which is why just grabing her and making out riht away is a great idea if you have any kind of performance anxiety where you tense up before it's time to make out and talk about boring sh*t for like an hour, and then timidly go for it.. if this is the case (lot of guys I know give me stories like this, where girls come over, and then they "talk" and then get rejected, and they are wondering WTF,, well, the girls somehow somewhere in your convo just lost interest and somethign you did turned them off),, in order to avoid this.. just grab her right away as she comes in and start making out.. 90% success rate if you do this, pinky swear!

 

[Buddha_Mind]

He just wants to bang her, not date her.

Yeah, that's classy and respectful. If a girl has a bf, she will be uphill, and if you lay her, she may become a nut, or her bf may seek out your destruction. I'm saying when he finds out, he may be very very angry and hurt. Why do this when there are other women?

I'm saying this from experience -- there was a time I used to think it was okay and fine to hit on chicks with BFs...I learned...there's something important in life with being able to be at peace with our actions and know we're not putting dents into other AFC-men's lives (who are likely as clueless as we once were)...

Respect man. It's about fvcking respect. *****es ain't worth that much.

 

[Jaylan]

^This. Gotta agree with the post above mine.

But its all good homie. The ones who cheat and facilitate cheating get the same in time. Then they come to forums like this or others and say how crappy women, men, and relationships are.

Let the disloyal and those with lack of respect and moral have one another.

I just find it entertaining when those who mess around with people in relationships, end up crying when it happens to them. Then they want sympathy and people to hear them vent when they didnt care about anyone else when they were on the other end of the stick.




EDIT:
The thing is many guys on this forum try and act like they really want to help men and spur on our collective cause to be better men. They pretend that its all about men helping other men avoid being played and controlled by women.

But the reality is that a lot of dudes here would betray their fellow man just for a taste of the punani, because they are not masters of their domain at all.

At the end of the day, for a lot of guys, dangle some puzzy in front of them, and they would screw over just about anyone for a lay.

I have to say this in ending though : How dare some of you even pretend to care about helping your fellow man when we see some of you advocate screwing over another fellow man. And I read a lot of posts on this site, and contradictory hypocrites are a plenty.

 

[PDubb75]

Yeah, that's classy and respectful. If a girl has a bf, she will be uphill, and if you lay her, she may become a nut, or her bf may seek out your destruction. I'm saying when he finds out, he may be very very angry and hurt. Why do this when there are other women?

I'm saying this from experience -- there was a time I used to think it was okay and fine to hit on chicks with BFs...I learned...there's something important in life with being able to be at peace with our actions and know we're not putting dents into other AFC-men's lives (who are likely as clueless as we once were)...

Respect man. It's about fvcking respect. *****es ain't worth that much.

I used to think that way. But ya know, especially these days, girls will say they have a boyfriend even when they don't. And it's simply because they are looking to see how you react. And in those cases, the "correct" reaction is to act like that isn't going to stop you.

So, my thinking now is that it is not my responsibility to stop it. If she's down, especially without much extra effort, that's on her. If I'm the single guy, I have no reason to do some random guy who may or may not exist any favors. And him being an AFC, again, is not my problem.

With that being said, I am completely against someone going after a girl that is obviously not interested because of the fact shes in a relationship. But if she wants it, fair game.

 

[FairShake]

FairShake... I'm not really sure what made you think shes more ****y/funny than him, and isn't the type to be dominated by that story.

Did you read the conversation? She was hilarious. He kinda reacted like a female who is **** testing would. Which is fine but I just liked pointing that out.

 

[RockaRolla25]

Yeah, that's classy and respectful. If a girl has a bf, she will be uphill, and if you lay her, she may become a nut, or her bf may seek out your destruction. I'm saying when he finds out, he may be very very angry and hurt. Why do this when there are other women?

I'm saying this from experience -- there was a time I used to think it was okay and fine to hit on chicks with BFs...I learned...there's something important in life with being able to be at peace with our actions and know we're not putting dents into other AFC-men's lives (who are likely as clueless as we once were)...

Respect man. It's about fvcking respect. *****es ain't worth that much.

Actually if she cheats on her BF with this guy in her anatomy class, he's doing her BF a favor because now he knows the type of girl she is and he can move on to someone better.

You can't FORCE a girl to cheat except if you rape her. And hopefully nobody on this forum would rape a girl. But, since you can't FORCE a girl to cheat and it's her decision, now her BF knows she can't be trusted.

Why get mad at the guy from anatomy class? Get mad at the girl bro! She could've said no!

 

[OnTheWayUp]

Actually if she cheats on her BF with this guy in her anatomy class, he's doing her BF a favor because now he knows the type of girl she is and he can move on to someone better.

You can't FORCE a girl to cheat except if you rape her. And hopefully nobody on this forum would rape a girl. But, since you can't FORCE a girl to cheat and it's her decision, now her BF knows she can't be trusted.

Why get mad at the guy from anatomy class? Get mad at the girl bro! She could've said no!

Absolutely agree with this. Contrary to what some claim, a girl is not some innocent creature who has no idea what she's doing when she puts herself in a position to have sex with a guy who isn't her bf. Let's look at the facts:

-The girl opened the guy twice, once at the beginning of the convo and once after he blew her off.
-She very blatantly flirted with him and gave the guy her number.
-She said "I have a bf, but I'm not seeing him till 15/09." Translation: "I am willing to cheat on him because I find you attractive, however I'm telling you that I have a bf so I don't have to feel guilty if I sleep with you before the 15/09."

OP: stick to your guns and hit her up with no expectations of anything other than sex- have fun!

 

[zekko]

HB: "You shouldn't be looking at dirty pictures like that!" (with a smirk)
Me: "Look, we don't even know each other and you're already getting upset with me for looking at other women. I can't believe you!"
HB: Laughs, smiles, sits down.

A few minutes pass

HB: "You look bored."
Me: "Do you think cartoon characters go to Heaven?"
HB: "Hahaha what?"
Me: "You heard me, do you think they do?"
HB: Laughs and thinks "ummm.... no. they don't!"
Me: "So you're telling me you don't think Winnie the Poo is going to Heaven??"
HB: "Yes, that's what I said."
Me: Looking over at her friend. "Is this girl always this bad? I can't believe her, saying Winnie the Poo is going to hell"

I just had to mention that reading this conversation is exactly like reading an example conversation in a pickup article. Which is good, I guess, to create attraction.

I just thought it was funny because if I heard this conversation I would be certain that the guy involved had read pickup material.

 

[RockaRolla25]

I just had to mention that reading this conversation is exactly like reading an example conversation in a pickup article. Which is good, I guess, to create attraction.

I just thought it was funny because if I heard this conversation I would be certain that the guy involved had read pickup material.

But, I doubt the majority of girls read sosuave. So, they probably wouldn't know it was pick-up material unless they actually read this site.

This website is kind of like cooking. At first you have to remember the recipe and it's tough to make the dish perfectly at first. In fact, the dish might even burn in the oven. But eventually you can make the dish without even looking at the recipe and you can even change it up a bit for better results.