Games by women with high IL

[WatchMeWalk]

I know that when an HB responds to your pursuits with headgames, she is not interested. PERIOD.
But lately, I've observed an odd phenomena. Some women who display high IL will deliberately initiate headgames. I've already shared my story of the HB8 who invited me to her place and wasn't at home when I got there. A similiar thing happened with an HB5 I was trying to date.
Now, this HB5 was (and still is) genuinely infatuated with me. All the signs were there. I've never been attracted to her, but she helped me a lot with projects and I didn't want to burn bridges. So, I invited her via email (AFC, but I could have cared less) to hang out with her after her summer course. She did not respond to the offer. A couple of days later, she invites me to go to the beach with her IN ONLY A HALF HOUR'S NOTICE! Needless to say, I passed. The next week, I called to invite her to Coney Island with me. She declined and counter-offered to go to this convention with her. The catch was that I would have to get up at 8am...
Well, no HB5 is worth all this skullduggery, so I cut off contact. After a week, she sent an email to make sure I was still alive and I made it clear there would be no dates.

My theory is that some girl's are deluded such idiocy will raise a man's IL from casual to obsessive levels. Supposedly (in their eyes), men are so sex-starved that we are supposed to tolerate it.
Anybody else notice this going on?

 

[Chewy Bagel]

I've found that girls with high interest levels don't really play mind games at all. They try to be around you all the time, their friends tell you about how they want you, they'll call you at work and ask a stupid question, they show up at the same places you go the same time you go - without asking if you're going to be there, they say "we should go out sometime" and a few other things. This has been my experience.

Also, if you do accept to go out with them or mention that you want to go somewhere, then high IL girls will be all over it. You'll be able to reach them on their cell, home phone, pager, or their mom will call them at their friends house.

Again, this is only my experience with high IL girls..and i've had a sh1t load of girls ask me out/approach me.

 

[violator]

It really depends. Some girls have deluded themselves into thinking that the games they play will raise a guys IL when in reality, at least in my case, they are digging their own grave.

For instance, the last girl, HB 8, I was dealing with was good in answering my calls and returning them, but getting a date with her was a different story. I could tell she had high IL in me but was too proud to show it. She would act coy, and play hard to get and otherwise had a *****y attitude. Finally I wrote her off, made it known that I wasn't going to put up with her BS and stopped calling her altogether. Within two weeks after not hearing from me, she made a complete 180 by calling me almost every day and inviting me to go out, etc. I had lost interest in her and had met another girl so I never responded to her again.

The key is to call them at their own games. If you cut all contact with them, they will always come back and pursue you if they have any interest. If they have low IL they will move on and prey on unsuspecting AFC's. So, I believe that some women with high IL do in fact play head games because it is what they are taught to do in Cosmo and other stupid girly magazines.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by WatchMeWalk
I know that when an HB responds to your pursuits with headgames, she is not interested. PERIOD.
But lately, I've observed an odd phenomena. Some women who display high IL will deliberately initiate headgames.

Headgames are a part of a woman's innate nature, no phenomena here. What you've noticed is a different level of gameplay. Not necessarily one to turn your brain to mush, but more as a sparing match.

The HB sees you as possibly being her equal and she's trying to find out if you can at least keep up with her. The big difference is that she is interested in you and not just playing for the sake of just her personal enjoyment.

 

[Oxide]

HB5? wouldnt that be an AB5? average babe?

dude, why dont u go to the beach with her if u have no plans? i would!

 

[crackhead]

right, she was just probably running through her phone looking for someone to go to the beach with and not putting much thought into it

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Originally posted by Oxide
HB5? wouldnt that be an AB5? average babe?

dude, why dont u go to the beach with her if u have no plans? i would!

Didn't you read the post? It was a last minute's notice. She wanted me to drop whatever I was doing at the time and jump through a hoop.

 

[LouieVaton Don]

HELP!

Originally posted by Chewy Bagel
I've found that girls with high interest levels don't really play mind games at all. They try to be around you all the time, their friends tell you about how they want you, they'll call you at work and ask a stupid question, they show up at the same places you go the same time you go - without asking if you're going to be there, they say "we should go out sometime" and a few other things. This has been my experience.

Your post really struck a nerve with me.

Im having the exact thing happen to me at the moment(aside from the friends thing) only there is no interest there, isnt that weird? She wont let me get the draws and she already stated that she doesnt see us being together(I dont see us together either). Yet she calls me almost every morning and night, trying to hang out. Calls me 2-3 times a day, pops up at my job and gets quizzical about other girls that flirt with me. Earlier today even I had to tell her to leave me alone because she was annoying me, she hung up on me, then just before I got off I see her ride by but she didnt look at me(what an idiot). I think im about to next her, the other day I was going to put yet another move on her(like the 5th time) but she brought her friend with her unexpectantly. Arggghh, I just dont know what I should do in this situation. I know Ive already screwed up by not sealing the deal already(we have known each other for 2 months) when she did want me. Can someone please tell whats going on here!!! What is she doing and what is she trying to prove????

 

[Ronin I]

Re: Re: Games by women with high IL

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Headgames are a part of a woman's innate nature, no phenomena here. What you've noticed is a different level of gameplay. Not necessarily one to turn your brain to mush, but more as a sparing match.

The HB sees you as possibly being her equal and she's trying to find out if you can at least keep up with her. The big difference is that she is interested in you and not just playing for the sake of just her personal enjoyment.

This is an interesting way of looking at it -

So in a way, what you're saying is that it's actually a compliment.

 

[crackhead]

It was a last minute's notice. She wanted me to drop whatever I was doing at the time and jump through a hoop.

perhaps you're reading too deep into that one and there were no games involved beyond her looking for someone to go to the beach with?

what's wrong with spontenaity?

 

[WatchMeWalk]

Originally posted by crackhead

what's wrong with spontenaity?

You can ask the ***** who invited me for a nooner at her place and bailed before I got there. . .

 

[OzzyBoy]

I think playing mindgames like that is stupid, if they did stuff like that to me it would probably drop my interest in them. Although if they play hard to get but not too hard that would probably increase my interest. Forget all the other stupid stuff though.

 

[LouieVaton Don]

Can I get some advice plz guys.

 

[OddTech]

Yo Louie, I don't want to hijack this tread, but I suggest you NEXT her. It's already the 5th try; you did all you could. You seem to be contradicting yourself. You said there is "no interest." You also said that you "don't see us together." So what's the point? Ignore her, don't pick up the phone. If she wants to hang out, quickly say that you're busy and LEAVE.

 

[MDgood]

We need a thread specifically on guy's experiences with headgames from chicks, so we can compare notes.

 

[vdk]

This world would be so much happier if women stopped all this BS. DJ's are thaught to play games to a certain extent (e.g. being unpredictable) but these women do a total 180 and expect us to be there for them. There are 3 explainations for this. 1. They read those 'woman's magazines e.g. Cosmo which teach these how to flirt, be in 'control' and 'make a guy want you more'. 2.They read a book like Rules or some feminazi craap 3. (Most likely) They are born like that or are emotionally unstable.

I have wasted so much time with these type of gals its not funny. It's not that I cant NEXT them, it just takes a while to spot these games.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Re: Re: Re: Games by women with high IL

Originally posted by Ronin I
This is an interesting way of looking at it -

So in a way, what you're saying is that it's actually a compliment.

Exactly. I am not saying that every hot babe is paying a complement however, if you are on your game you will be able to tell the ones that are. It is almost like a dance.

 

[Ronin I]

Originally posted by MDgood
We need a thread specifically on guy's experiences with headgames from chicks, so we can compare notes.

That could be the longest thread in the history of sosuave.

 

[TesuqueRed]

Never quite thought about the difference between "Games" and "Tests"--we use those terms interchangeably sometimes, but if you put the two words next to each other, you see the difference.

WMW hasn't used the words interchangeably here, but I sense that something of the sort is going on when wondering how to deal with the examples.

As for tests--someone here said it shows they're interested, otherwise they wouldn't test.

Games--these CAN be a form of a test--you're being tested through a game--and you can convert on her if played right.

And then there are games that show she's not all that interested but will jack you around for various reasons (amusement, can't be direct, doesn't know what she wants...) Rapo games, attention wh0re games, manipulative games, social proof games, passive-aggressive games, evasive games, etc.

Maybe games is too strong a word for some of them--more like tactics.

WMW--what you gave examples on are pretty nasty, IMO, and call for nexting. Sure--they show high IL--girls with high IL do that, and so do attention wh0res and rapo players (they're high IL is for your attention, not you...) You testing them will show the difference. As for your flake-girls, be polite and distant, but no more doggy-treat rewards of attention outta you for them...

 

[Bonhomme]

More bull**** = less interest

This is what I've consistently found. I like to be efficient, and go for the gals who are straight up with me.