The game of 5 years ago doesnt even work
I never read Neil Strauss' "The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists", which came out in 2005 or "Mystery Method" in 2006. Are those outdated at this point?
I was thinking about a story I heard about how my paternal grandparents met. During WW2 my grandfather went to a USO dance that was at a city he was stationed in and he met my grandmother there. I guess the story goes that he walked her home and memorized her phone number and address so that he could get in touch with her. At that time things were much simpler, people were most likely far more down to earth and friendlier to one another.
Now, reflecting upon that story and applying that to the dating market with today's younger women I feel that would be a total disaster. I have a very strong inclination that a young woman today would be creeped out by something like that. If she found out the guy memorized her phone number or where she lived he would be labelled a creepy stalker or a weirdo lol. This is why I think that many men have issues with today's women, because they hear stories like this from men of older generations but without taking into the context of those given time periods and the culture and behavior of the people then. Many young women today have already been with a couple dozen guys by the time they are in their mid 20s, do you think they are going to respond well to a well meaning approach like that?
No one needs to memorize a phone number today. For many years, I carried my cell phone in a gym bag to take to fitness classes. On the regular gym floor, I have my cell phone in my pocket. I'm ready to pounce when the opportunity arises.
When I think about the biggest differences in game compared to the 1940s-first half of 1970s, I think it's now easier for elite men to rack up huge notch counts than in the past. However, for all levels of men, having extended relationships are more difficult. The bottom 80% of men have it worse now than ever because they're not getting the easier sex and it's also become less likely to have meaningful, extended relationships. Think about why more Millennials are in their mid-30s and pushing 40 without kids and without a stable relationship.
Your grandpa was running beta game. Chads still existed in the old days, but they probably didn’t stick around long enough to tell you stories about how they met. I think the only difference was that beta game actually worked and led to a long lasting life together.
While your grandpa was walking your grandma home and writing love letters to her, 37,000 illegitimate children were being born to German mothers knocked up by American GI Chad
Beta game worked in the 1940s-1960s, and still even a little bit into the 1970s. By the 1980s, it was fading. I entered the mating environment in the late 1990s and beta game was dead by then. I have a female acquaintance who still gets men on swipe apps to take her out for meal dates in restaurants before sex, which is astonishing to me since I learned not to do that in the early 2010s.
The point is that "game" today would be far more demanding of a man compared to in a past, at least in regards to certain parameters. Women in the 1950s or 1940s didn't demand a man be 6' plus, have broad shoulders, bit very fit, very handsome and be rich. Sure, they were attracted to those traits but the women in that day and age settled for men that they had access to, whom they found attractive and were normal/functional members of society. In today's world it's not uncommon to see women with outrageous standards, many of which they themselves don't even live up to. For instance, there was a thread on here a few weeks ago from a woman who would only date a very fit/muscle beach type man when she herself said she was out of shape lol. I've also seen evidence of this in the real world.
In my opinion, I feel what is different now compared to the past is simply this. Women did not have access to literally hundreds of men within the palm of their hand like those today with smartphones. Women are naturally very choosy but due to the current culture it has allowed this to go to a degree that is unhealthy and unrealistic. If you took a girl born in the 20s or 30s and brought her up in today's world she would behave in a similar fashion.
Women didn't start demanding men be 6'0"+ until they were getting their inboxes flooded on dating websites in the 2000s. Swipe apps in the 2010s took every bad thing from the website era of the 2000s and put it on steroids. Due to surpluses of men and horrid ratios on apps, women believe that they are entitled to a 6'0"+ man with broad shoulders, very fit, very handsome, and rich. I'm only 5'10" and I've felt women turn their noses up at me due to height, both behind swipe apps and with some in-person interactions. Guys under 6'0" are better served doing in-person pickup. If I'm 5'10" and I've felt height discrimination, I can only imagine how bad it is for a 5'6" or 5'7" guy.
Many women today have unrealistic standards relative to what they offer.
