Game Flaw? Help Me With This. Girls Who Sleep with You but Show Little Affection.

Nu Vision

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Ok guys so I need your help with this. This has happened to me twice already. The first time was some time ago overseas with a girl I had been texting and calling for months. We went out when I was visiting her country and ended up going to a motel. She seemed fine with it. We started making out. She was a little resistant. I think it was shyness and also the fact that although comfort was built from months of talking there had not been enough time to really build physical desire and attraction to its highest levels. So we had sex and she just seemed kind of out of it and like she was feeling weird. It was the weirdest thing. I was in a long term relationship/marriage and sex during my marriage with my ex was really good. She even joked sometimes that sex was the only thing keeping us together. So I consider myself to be above average in bed. I later found that that girl had a bf or had just broken up with him and was feeling guilty about it and also conscious of not being seen as a hooker.

Then this past Friday night I went out with this girl and a similar thing happened but this time it was more pleasurable and the experience was much better. So I took this girl out (first time out with her) and we ended up going to a hotel. I think this kind of set the bad mood. My place or her place was not an option so I wanted the lay and decided **** it I'll take the hit and find us a room. She said she felt like a hooker going to a hotel. But she went anyways. She was so anxious about people seeing her and all that stuff. We get there. Start making out and everything is going good. Clothes come off. She then starts asking if I had a condom. I said yes. She wanted nothing to happen not even making out if I didn't have it on. She was so paranoid of my d1ck touching her or going in with no condom. This felt a little weird. Like I get the whole safety thing and I also wanted to wear protection for my safety but it seemed a little overboard. Then she wasn't very receptive. Felt like she wanted me to do all the work. Have you guys been with girls like these? So I was doing my thing getting her all wet and stuff. We did it. She came real fast. She looked surprised when I told her I had not come. She didn't really offer to keep doing it so I could come (weird). Anyways, doggy style is my favorite position and so I start kissing her and grabbing her ass and slowly start turning her around. She seems resistant.

Could it be she wanted a more romantic position? We did it doggystyle and she said I was hurting her. As crazy as it sounds and maybe I've read too much about game I thought maybe this was a **** test and she wanted to see if I could ravage her or be a passive boy in bed. I went hard and asked if she wanted me to stop she said no. from there on the night went great but the start wasn't smooth at all. Then when we were done she said she wanted to leave. I was tired as fvck. And the hotel was a good drive from our homes. I said let's sleep a bit and wake up early. She agreed but wanted no part of cuddling or anything. I said the complimentary phrases about how good it was and stuff. But she just seemed so freaking distant. I don't know what to make of it.

Could it be that I'm not escalating kinoing enough or smoothly enough?

Maybe some girls are just like that.

I had none of these issues with my ex-wife. Even at the start. My guess is this girl is has a low sex drive.

She told me she wasn't very vocal during sex but after she got vocal and came again so I felt like I did my job.

And also it just seems to me like a hotel messes up the mood because is not a natural thing like if you go your house and find yourself ****1ng its easier for them to rationalize it as it just happened rather than going to a hotel to fvck.

I need to find plates and more girls because I can sense myself already caring about what this girl thinks and thinking about her more then I would like to. This after only being with her once. If I had other girls this wouldn't be happening.

What do you guys make of this?

Thanks.
 

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Gotcha.

I would like to see her again though. What do I do?

I need to get my own place man because this would have gone smoother had I been able to bring her home.
 

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True.

Getting laid wouldnt be the primary motivator but I now realize that this living arrangementioned doesn't suit me well. I want to date many women before I settle again.
 

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Honestly, I think some women just are this way.

Out of about 100+, I've met about 5 or 6 that were too in their head to enjoy the moment with you. They usually try to make you feel like **** for it, too.

Just keep it classy and know your own personal boundaries. :)
 

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Yea the weird thing is 2 of the few women I been with have been this way. I want to go out with her again to see if maybe it was because it was the first time and the hotel thing killed the vibe.
 

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So she texted me today and we exchanged a bunch of texts. Honestly, I have been thinking about her since we went out. My lack of experience with women and variety is showing it's ugly head as I'm feeling like a kid inside a candy shop. I bed her once and I started thinking crazy stuff. I've control myself and waited for her to text so I didn't look needy.

How should I proceed here? Based on the fact that I was perhaps a little too aggressive on our first outing and there could have been more connection should I proceed with a more romantic kind of game? I think she felt like the whole thing very un romantic and like it was all sex and no warming up to it. Should I invite her oUT next to a skating rink or bowling (action) or a picnic/movie in the park kind of thing (more romantic)? I think I have to show her more of my softer side. I may be wrong. Is this too beta you guys think?
 

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My advice out of personal experience is don't waste your time with women who aren't affectionate. If she doesn't want to f*ck you on the first date and she hasn't f*cked you by the second (or corresponding escalation for girls who are more reserved, like religious ones), odds are she probably doesn't really want or care about you.
 

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AF,

We fvcked. Lol

She was just very reserved and weird. I think the hotel thing killed the vibe and so I'm wondering if a more romantic kind of approach is the way to go. Not saying I'll write her letter or none of that **** but I'm thinking skating/dancing/bowling vs picnic/day at the beach/art gallery
 

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So this girl is a heavy texter. We've been texting a lot. IM doing half the texts she does and wait sometimes as long as an hr to respond. I feel rapport is building. Should I stop texting so much?
 

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I waNT to her again. Would I look desperate if I ask to see her this weekend? We went out last Friday. I don't want to look needy but also feel I should strike now that the iron is hot.
 

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omg vision, bro, yes, strike man, nothing to wait for

and yes, yes, and yes, to all of your ideas of showing your beta romantic soft side, gogogo, its what she likely wants

if you notice her pull back just pull back the soft side, but it sounds like youll be fine

she sound uncomfortable with sex though but it may be just because its your guys first time combined with hotel, either way you will find out, but theres no need to play so hard to get anymore with this one judging by her heavy texting
 

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Nu Vision said:
AF,

We fvcked. Lol
You know women will have sex with guys even if they're not all that into it or the guy himself.

This happens for any number of reasons.

My question is, if she's acting "weird" about it all why haven't you moved on? Why spend all this energy with someone who doesn't make you feel good when you're with them?

Also, be aware that women often times "fake" orgasm to get you to finish sooner. I don't mind it if it's smooth and not screaming hysterics.
 

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Alexander,

I think that's what it was. The hotel thing and also it being our first time. I asked her out for Friday and she said yes. SHE'S asking where we going and I'm being mysterious and telling her she will know in due time. She's going nuts trying to figure it out.

G Govan,

I'm pursuing it still because I think I messed up with the hotel thing and could have been smoother. I think I made her feel uncomfortable.

She came twice. I don't think she was faking.
 
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