Fvck this whole game, I'm finished

[Last_straw]

Im done with women and I'm done with this fvcking game. Seems like you have to be this perfect guy to be eligible to date these days. Well I'm tired of it. I'll never be that guy and I'm not even gonna try anymore. I'm taking myself out of the dating game. Peace guys and hope u have better lck than me.

 

[Maxtro]

Is this the last_straw?

What happened?

 

[Galactus]

Adios. Don't let la puerta hit you in el coolo.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

Theres been plenty of times I wanted to Throw in The Towel. But nobody ever said this would be easy. Its not that you aren't the "Perfect" guy for these girls, you just aren't showing the perfect YOU. The better YOU. The best of YOU. Not one guy on this planet is 100% perfect for any girl.

Rather than retracting into your shell Last Straw, see the big picture and grow past it. So many guys have this idea of the perfect "Pick Up", the perfect "Lines", the absolute perfect "Frame". Thats NON EXISTENT. The sole purpose and your purpose in this whole game, is not about the girls or banging hundreds of women. Its about the gateway to emotional growth and maturity, so much so that you do not care about sex anymore.

If you keep at it, keep your head down and get stuck in, in the good fight. YOU WILL SUCCEED. You'll no longer need women and it'll be a new frustration when they hit on YOU because its the same old routine again and again.

Its okay, to take a BREAK and come back refreshed. This is not a COLLEGE MASTERS DEGREE. You are allowed to take breaks in this Game. If you quit now, what lessons have you learned? That you aren't the perfect guy because of some silly skanks in 2010? Think about the futuristic YOU. What about in 2015? By then, you might have a ton of girls at your whim and a hot girlfriend.

TAKE A BREAK, JUST DON'T QUIT. QUITTING IS FOR LOSERS WITH NO EXPLAINATION ON WHY THEY QUIT.

 

[spinaroonie]

Great, more girls for me.

On a serious note, I think one of the flaws of this forum is that it holds men to an unrealistic standard of manhood and masculinity while completely absolving girls of any responsibilty for their behaviour.

Girl flakes? Your game wasn't tight enough. How about teaching girls that when you commit to something, it's basic common courtesy to follow through. Girl ****blocks? Your game wasn't tight enough. How about when you're engaged in conversation with someone it's rude for someone to interrupt and drag that person away on a whim.

Most girls today are out of control and get away with way too much bad behaviour. Older guys here will tell you that women in previous generations weren't always like this. I doubt our grandfathers had this much trouble with women.

There's a huge societal-wide failure on the part of men AND older women to hold girls to account. It's why gender relations are in such disarray.

 

[Last_straw]

Theres been plenty of times I wanted to Throw in The Towel. But nobody ever said this would be easy. Its not that you aren't the "Perfect" guy for these girls, you just aren't showing the perfect YOU. The better YOU. The best of YOU. Not one guy on this planet is 100% perfect for any girl.

Rather than retracting into your shell Last Straw, see the big picture and grow past it. So many guys have this idea of the perfect "Pick Up", the perfect "Lines", the absolute perfect "Frame". Thats NON EXISTENT. The sole purpose and your purpose in this whole game, is not about the girls or banging hundreds of women. Its about the gateway to emotional growth and maturity, so much so that you do not care about sex anymore.

If you keep at it, keep your head down and get stuck in, in the good fight. YOU WILL SUCCEED. You'll no longer need women and it'll be a new frustration when they hit on YOU because its the same old routine again and again.

Its okay, to take a BREAK and come back refreshed. This is not a COLLEGE MASTERS DEGREE. You are allowed to take breaks in this Game. If you quit now, what lessons have you learned? That you aren't the perfect guy because of some silly skanks in 2010? Think about the futuristic YOU. What about in 2015? By then, you might have a ton of girls at your whim and a hot girlfriend.

TAKE A BREAK, JUST DON'T QUIT. QUITTING IS FOR LOSERS WITH NO EXPLAINATION ON WHY THEY QUIT.

I'm not retreating into my shell, I'm just never gonna try with women again. I did it for years and only starting trying again when I came across this site. So I'm sure I can get on without women again (half of them disgust me now anyways). Plus, what makes you think something will change for me in the next 5 years? Nothing changed for me in the last 5 years.

 

[snowdog]

Take some distance or take a while off. But don't give up.

 

[Igetit!]

Im done with women and I'm done with this fvcking game.

No,no you're not.

You're not done with women and you're not done with "game". Sexual desire is in you,it IS you. You can't escape from yourself.


As soon as you go outside,turn on the tv,or walk into some store and see some "hot chick",this thing will rev up again in you.


Sorry man. You can't just up and decide to stop being human.

Seems like you have to be this perfect guy to be eligible to date these days. Well I'm tired of it. I'll never be that guy and I'm not even gonna try anymore. I'm taking myself out of the dating game.

This didn't just come out of nowhere. So tell us,who is she?


...some girl you've known for a while who you finally decided to ask out and she turned you down with some lame excuse?


...some chick who's number you got,called her up only to have her stop returning your calls?


...a girl you went out with,had a good time and thought things were going well,but now she's flaking on you?



Or some other scenario with the girl seeming disinterested?




There's always hope. There's always a remedy. This thread is nothing but frustration speaking,but frustration doesn't last forever.


There's something that you need to learn here. I say that because if you don't,once the frustration has passed and you're ready to go out and try again,you'll just hit the same roadblock again and be back making another "woe is me" thread.



As far as what that "something" is,you'd have to give us an example of a situation with a girl,preferably one similiar to whatever it was that caused you to make this thread.

 

[ARrocket]

Sexual desire is in you,it IS you.




There's always hope. There's always a remedy. This thread is nothing but frustration speaking,but frustration doesn't last forever.

Left in the quadruple space just for you, Igetit!

Last_Straw: Inner game. YOU need to get your sh!t together before you can be successful with women. YOU need to stop being so outcome dependent. YOU need to start ENJOYING your life WITHOUT being desperate for female companionship.

Do you have a good set of friends? If not, that is where you start.

Go out with your friends, with the SOLE intention of having a great time. Be social. Talk to girls WITHOUT HAVING ANY INTENTIONS. Just BE HAPPY.

Focus on hobbies, on your career. LIVE. LIFE.

During the process of living life, you will meet women. Once you are happier, start interacting with these women more and more, WITHOUT BEING OUTCOME DEPENDENT. Don't expect anything. JUST HAVE FUN. You think one is cool? Great, hang out with her. But don't expect anything. That doesn't mean be a non-sexual AFC who fails. It means don't put so much of your well-being into whether or not this girl is receptive to you.

REMEMBER: It will be a numbers game. So keep on gaming. But first, get your mindset right.

And read this: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16955

 

[Last_straw]

No,no you're not.

You're not done with women and you're not done with "game". Sexual desire is in you,it IS you. You can't escape from yourself.


As soon as you go outside,turn on the tv,or walk into some store and see some "hot chick",this thing will rev up again in you.


Sorry man. You can't just up and decide to stop being human.





This didn't just come out of nowhere. So tell us,who is she?


...some girl you've known for a while who you finally decided to ask out and she turned you down with some lame excuse?


...some chick who's number you got,called her up only to have her stop returning your calls?


...a girl you went out with,had a good time and thought things were going well,but now she's flaking on you?



Or some other scenario with the girl seeming disinterested?




There's always hope. There's always a remedy. This thread is nothing but frustration speaking,but frustration doesn't last forever.


There's something that you need to learn here. I say that because if you don't,once the frustration has passed and you're ready to go out and try again,you'll just hit the same roadblock again and be back making another "woe is me" thread.



As far as what that "something" is,you'd have to give us an example of a situation with a girl,preferably one similiar to whatever it was that caused you to make this thread.

If you want to know why I made this thread then go read the other thread I made tonight (I don't know whether my ego's just hurt or whether I actually liked her). And I'm truly done. Your right that I'll never be able to get rid of sexual desire, but I can avoid situations where I'll be hurt again (such as never pursuing a girl again).

 

[wait_out]

Guys usually quit when challenged because:

1) They are far too judgemental of themselves based on the results they get back, and take disappointment both personally & emotionally;
2) they don't make enough effort and are far too forgiving of laziness and dissipation in themselves.

So what do you do, practically?

1) Don't let failure define your identity. Forgive yourself. Become resilient. Be a fighter.
2) Once you have recharged, get off your ass and figure out what you did wrong, what you did right, and what you do now.

There is one outcome you can always control. Lets say losing really is guaranteed. Are you the kind of man who will fight to the death and acquit yourself honourably, or the kind of man who drowns in desperation, avoidance, and negativity?

Which of those men is the one you would respect, OP? It really does have to start with yourself.

 

[Young Juan]

While others discourage you to quit, I actually ENCOURAGE you to "quit."

Just DO YOU. B!tches ain't Sh!t. Be the best YOU that YOU can be. Focus on yourself. Be selfish a bit. These b!tches ain't goin no where. A couple years down you'll see the same sh!t in a different toilet.

Quit gamin and start livin. Do YOU. Build you. Chase your dreams and don't worry about the rest. The universe will take care of the rest.

I know its redundant but once again, DO YOU. In due time and when you least expect it these broads will begin chasing you. And even if they don't, at least you'll still be living your dreams.

 

[DonJuan11]

If you want to know why I made this thread then go read the other thread I made tonight (I don't know whether my ego's just hurt or whether I actually liked her). And I'm truly done. Your right that I'll never be able to get rid of sexual desire, but I can avoid situations where I'll be hurt again (such as never pursuing a girl again).

It's both, your ego is hurt (how can she ignore my calls, doesn't she know I REALLY like her and want to be with her forever and forever? I will treat her so well and take care of her until my dying day); because you were attracted and liked her, and that fact that she made out with you.

If it was a heavier girl who looked ok and really liked you, but you weren't attracted, you wouldn't care and your ego would remain in tact.

If it was a 42 year divorced mom who looked terrible and really liked you, but you weren't attracted, you wouldn't care and your ego would remain in tact.

It's only when the GIRL WE ARE ATTRACTED TO DOESN'T RECIPROCATE our feelings, our ego is hurt, and we get upset and angry.


In your other thread, you made out with her, so you did something right. But that fact that she won't answer your calls means you did something wrong after. You have specify what happened, we are not mind readers.

 

[Igetit!]

If you want to know why I made this thread then go read the other thread I made tonight (I don't know whether my ego's just hurt or whether I actually liked her).

Yeah,I checked it out. So everything seemed ok up until right AFTER the date,then it all seemed to go downhill.


So the keys to finding out what's happened should lie within the date itself.


You said that you made out with this girl on the SAME NIGHT that you met her. So if you made out with her then,AND she followed through with going out with you after the makeout sessions,then you must have dropped the ball somewhere on the date.


So the main question would be....What did you two talk about while on the date?



Details,bro. Details,details,details. What EXACTLY did you two talk about?


Also,did you stir up any types of feelings and emotions in her? It's not enough to just be "good" or "nice" to a girl,she has to FEEL something.

Your right that I'll never be able to get rid of sexual desire, but I can avoid situations where I'll be hurt again.(such as never pursuing a girl again).

And you're right about this.


You can avoid situations where you won't be hurt again by never pursuing a girl. You CAN avoid the pain of being rejected by a girl by not pursuing them,but the only problem with that is that as time goes by,once the feelings of rejection are no longer there,they get replaced by a different feeling.....loneliness


Rejection may suck,but walking around out in the world and seeing other guys with women,even seeing "ugly guys" with girls on their arms is no walk in the park either.



You call yourself "Last Straw",and now you make a thread talking about how you're "finished" with women and dating.

You need to learn something dude. If you're calling yourself "last straw" and talking about how you're done with girls,then obviously you've had problem after problem after problem,the same thing over and over and over again without taking the time to step back for a minute and see where YOU are going wrong at.



You're first step to getting out of this vicious cycle (imo) would be to answer thoses questions I asked with as miuch detail as possible.

 

[f283000]

While others discourage you to quit, I actually ENCOURAGE you to "quit."

Just DO YOU. B!tches ain't Sh!t. Be the best YOU that YOU can be. Focus on yourself. Be selfish a bit. These b!tches ain't goin no where. A couple years down you'll see the same sh!t in a different toilet.

Quit gamin and start livin. Do YOU. Build you. Chase your dreams and don't worry about the rest. The universe will take care of the rest.

I know its redundant but once again, DO YOU. In due time and when you least expect it these broads will begin chasing you. And even if they don't, at least you'll still be living your dreams.

this was really REALLY good. I hope more guys start thinking in these terms.

The problem is that society conditions us to feel like if we need women when in fact women are only good for sex and cooking. Men are conquerors, warriors, inventors. Doing stuff is our natural state of being. Not being depressed about trying to get a damn girlfriend and bringing drama into our lives.

It's really depressing to find threads like "theasianlover" about losing his virginity like if he somehow overcame cancer. Instead we should have the mentality of pursing worthy endeavors and if we bang a female on the side that's a plus, but not the meaning of it all.

Do not think of women as more than walking vaginas for sex and pleasure. That is all they are. They were made for our pleasure and to serve us.

 

[PapiChulo]

Its a life-style my friend, so patience and changing yourself into a better man is the key. Its as simple as it sounds. The less your care about women and the less you need them - the better you are with them.

 

[Quiksilver]

Dating is overrated and a waste of valuable time.

 

[PapiChulo]

so true, but the practice is gonna make you that much clever that you are gonna catch a good one, once she comes along...getting laid, not bad either. After all, it teaches you some social skills here and there.

 

[Forty0ztoFreedom]

I'm with you, dude. Focus on yourself.

EDIT: Saw the subsequent posts. You're done forever? Yeaaahhhh

 

[Last_straw]

Yeah,I checked it out. So everything seemed ok up until right AFTER the date,then it all seemed to go downhill.


So the keys to finding out what's happened should lie within the date itself.


You said that you made out with this girl on the SAME NIGHT that you met her. So if you made out with her then,AND she followed through with going out with you after the makeout sessions,then you must have dropped the ball somewhere on the date.


So the main question would be....What did you two talk about while on the date?



Details,bro. Details,details,details. What EXACTLY did you two talk about?


Also,did you stir up any types of feelings and emotions in her? It's not enough to just be "good" or "nice" to a girl,she has to FEEL something.





And you're right about this.


You can avoid situations where you won't be hurt again by never pursuing a girl. You CAN avoid the pain of being rejected by a girl by not pursuing them,but the only problem with that is that as time goes by,once the feelings of rejection are no longer there,they get replaced by a different feeling.....loneliness


Rejection may suck,but walking around out in the world and seeing other guys with women,even seeing "ugly guys" with girls on their arms is no walk in the park either.



You call yourself "Last Straw",and now you make a thread talking about how you're "finished" with women and dating.

You need to learn something dude. If you're calling yourself "last straw" and talking about how you're done with girls,then obviously you've had problem after problem after problem,the same thing over and over and over again without taking the time to step back for a minute and see where YOU are going wrong at.



You're first step to getting out of this vicious cycle (imo) would be to answer thoses questions I asked with as miuch detail as possible.

I don't like overanalyzing things to death (neither do I see the point since it's over with her), but I'll answer your question.

Basically there's the summary of our interactions since I met her.

Went out to chill at a bar for my cousin's bday celebrations a couple of weeks ago. My cousin introduces me to a few of her friends (kinda like "hey, this is so and so"). But she goes out of her way to make sure I meet this one girl (Ashley). Me and ash are talking, she's asking me about myself and can't believe I'm as old as I say (I'm in my mid twenties but look like I'm in my early twenties). She goes off to find a few of her friends but tells me she'll be back (I use the time to find a few ppl I knew that I ran into earlier). Found her on the patio with her friends later and grabbed her hand and took her on the dancefloor. We're grinding, she kisses me on the cheek and I go for the lips, make out. We leave the dancefloor to try and find my cousin (in reality it's just an excuse to make out in dark corners of the club, lol). I get her number, we kiss a few more times and I leave.

I wait a few days to call her and ask her out for the end of the next week. We plan to go to this bar, have a few drinks. Day comes, she shows up (albeit 15 mins late). We sit on the patio, order a couple of beers and some finger food. We're talking about music, movies, what we're studying at school, fun times we've had partying, etc. We're there for an hour and a half and I suggest we continue hanging at her place (she needed to go let her roommate in, and her place was close). We get there, and her roommate is leaving (apparently found her key). We smoke a joint, talk about stupid ****, make out. We go to her room to get something, I place my hands on her shoulders, turn her around and kiss her. She tells me it's too soon. I smile and kiss her again. She giggles, says no and pushes me away. We kiss a few more times while she's looking for whatever then head back downstairs. I leave shortly after and she walks me to the transit station. As I'm about to leave her she kisses me and tells me to call her.

I send her a txt 4 or 5 days later asking what she's doing that night. She's says drinking with her friends since 2 of them were moving in a few days. I didn't really want to hang with her friends so I don't push to see her. I just make a joke which she never responded to. Call her at the end of the wknd, she didn't answer, left a message saying to call me since I wanted to get together. She doesn't call. I try calling her twice yesterday and nothing.