Frustration and Misogyny

ElmerFudd

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Now, be warned. This is another of those first time whining posts. I'm not going to be pretend it's different from all the others you've read, replied to, and expressed annoyance at. But I just had to put this **** down here. I've read the DJ Bible, learned it, practiced it, loved it. It changed my life, as it did to so many others, and encouraged me to be a new man. I went from being a fat kid who would get **** constantly from everyone, never had a girlfriend, and was quiet and insecure and converted all that negative energy into hitting the gym, talking to people more, establishing connections with people, becoming what you yanks would refer to as "popular". Basically, universally liked, and if not liked, then at least known. I stood up for myself, built a reputation, developed a sense of humour that got me friends with nearly everyone I came into contact with. I begun to raise my head high when I walked, made sure my back was always straight, and get that respect I had always wanted. My confidence hit sky high.

That was 2 years ago, when I was 15. Come back to present day, I'm still the same old confident guy, plenty of respect, started College but already gaining plenty of friends and building a reputation. And yet, my success with women leave alot to be desired. This wouldn't concern me usually, sex should never be a focal aim. But not just that, I've never even had a single ****ing girlfriend. I'm the most confident guy most of my friends know, yet I haven't even had a kiss while I'm hearing about my friends getting ****ing blow jobs.

We've all read Pooks posts, do what you love and the women will follow. And believe me, I have. I now speak 4 languages fluently, have an amazing body from a devotion to the gym and a healthy lifestyle, play for a basketball team, play guitar, piano and bass. I am intelligent, far from ugly, and as you can judge from the ****iness of my post, highly confident. I am social, always meeting new people, talking to whoever I meet, on the bus, on the street, in a new class, wherever. And yet, women still seem to be out of my grasp. I play the field, always flirtatious, applying everything from ****y and Funny to Kino, with good results, usually receiving a positive response from the female.

Yet, whenever I try to take it that step further, I get shot down. I try to organize dates, they're always busy. Then 2 weeks later, I find they've just got another boyfriend, usually some 4 foot tall skinny emo tosser. I try to go in for a kiss with a girl, they reject it. Or despite all that, they all have ****ing boyfriends in the first place. Everyone around me, no matter what they look like, how boring their personalities are, or what they do socially, are finding success with women. At first, I put it off, saying to myself "I just gotta wait for these girls to mature" or other such excuses. But seeing the tide change with all my friends and everyone I know concerning relationships is starting to hit home. I constantly try to evaluate myself, what am I doing wrong. I can find no faults. I am always trying to be sexual to avoid the friends soon, getting away with more risque comments and actions with girls most other guys couldn't pull off. I'm always making eye contact, touching them, trying to build attraction. When I believe the attraction is firmly in place, I try to establish on it, yet as I said, I just crash on burn. Then I find out some other guy has taken over my place and is now dating with the same girl. And it's usually not some confident player who steals this girl from me with his major skills, but some skinny quiet ****er who makes a couple jokes then crosses his fingers and asks "will you go out with me?", more often than not getting a resounding "YES". I never tried that, viewing it as pretty pathetic, hence why I always gave myself enough time to postpone required success with women.

This is becoming frustrating more than anything, and it's angering me, not because of the lack of sex or whatever, beginning to chip at my confidence, the confidence I hold so dear. I also find it pretty pathetic that it's having this effect on me, and the fact that I'm moaning about it Because of this, it's starting to give me a negative view of women in general, almost misogynist, which would pretty much mess up any chances I would have with women in the future.

Why did I post this? I don't know. Perhaps in the hope that someone could help me, offer me that simple answer I've been searching for, but I'm presuming you're all as clueless as me. I just want input mainly, why you think this is and what you think of this whole situation. Even if I only get like 2 replies from guys saying "That sucks dude", at least I'll have got this **** out of my system, which is all I really wanted. Thanks for reading this longass post.
 

ducaro

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Do you know why? Because all that 'confidence' you did not want for yourself to begin with. its like you changed your dress and you 'put on' confidence. You did it, cuz you wanted to attract people. There is a difference. some go through a dynamic change for themselves and some do it for others.

Tip: Start treating yourself as though that confidence is for YOURSELF and not to attract or impress anyone. give yourself importance. When your confident from 'within' you will not notice the ssues you mentioned in your post.

oh and.. 'pook', the 'dj bible' are just tools. that should just get you thinking, not acting it out like a carbon copy.
 

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You have all the skills in place, you just need some momentum.

We've all read Pooks posts, do what you love and the women will follow.
This site puts a bit too much emphasis on self-improvement!:D

Really, there is this big impression around here that if you focus on your career and your body, women will "smell out" your success and your testosterone. This just isn't reality. If you don't put yourself out there, or if you don't 'get it' when it comes to women, forget it.

It seems that you are putting yourself out there socially, that you are meeting enough females. But there are a few things that make your case different. Most DJ Bible posters here live in thriving cities Florida, Cali, Australia or New Jersey. You are in college, a British college, possibly a small British college?

I play the field, always flirtatious, applying everything from ****y and Funny to Kino, with good results, usually receiving a positive response from the female.
Have you tried not being flirtatious? Have you tried just gathering two or three female friends? They don't have to be attractive.

The Emo kids who end up dating these girls: how on Earth did you find out about it? Probably because there are gossip-loving females who are friends who are friends of them both. In other words, these guys have been hanging out on a Platonic basis with girls A, B, and C, while flirting a little with girls D, E, and F, but NOT flirting too hard, because, hey, they have plenty of time to warm up to him.

I'm just saying, easing your way in with a female friend or 3 might be better for your environment than cold approaches and getting the digits.
 

ready123

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I didn't my first girlfriend til I was 18. I'm 28 now and I didn't come across any advice on game until I was 21 and back then all it was, was Ross Jefferies and Anti-Dump. I don't even think Mystery was around back then

Don't get mysoginist - it's the wrong frame of mind to be conversating with people in. It's not gonna help you hook up, and you're gonna become the kind of ******* girls don't like.

You're frustrated but remember this is a skill to be learned and at least you're going through the grind now instead of all the dudes who be playing video games until they're 30 then find out 75% of their friends are married and their mom is tryign to hook them because they're socially retarded.

You play ball right? How long did it take for you to master your jumpshot to the point where when you released, you knew whether or not it was going in. That's what you're doing here, learning the intricacies of interaction to the point where you don't have to consciously thinking about it. That takes time man

If I were you, I'd ask friends who know waht they're doing to watch you mack and tell you what you're doing wrong. To me it sounds like you're making the girl uncomfortable or unable to trust you, but I haven't seen you in field, so I wouldn't know.
 
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