From a woman: "Why Nice guys suck"

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Saw this on craigslist: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/205576820.html

"This is a long rant, so bear with me or hit your back button. I'm frustrated and in no mood for your **** either, so if you don't want to read it, well...

So I'm dating a nice guy now and it SUCKS. No other way to explain it, it just SUCKS. He's no challenge. He agrees with everything I say. He's got it all though - a decent job, a nice house, no kids, no psycho ex-wives, and he's tall and cute. Anyone ever seen that Friends episode when Alec Baldwin played Phoebe's boyfriend?? YEAH, my boyfriend is THAT nice. He's just too ****ing nice. Nice is boring. I've never heard him raise his voice. He's never aggressive. He has no edge. He won't even drive over the speed limit and that ****ing annoys the **** out of me, yet I sit in the passenger seat and keep my mouth shut... watching everyone whiz by us.

And don't get me started on the sex. Oh, excuse me... making love. After he cums (note I didn't mention anything about ME cumming), he rolls over and says "Oh, that was nice" with a little sigh. I KID YOU NOT, he says it EVERY TIME and then he sighs like he has just woken from a refreshing nap. I finally got so tired of missionary and him looking lovingly into my eyes and smiling as he came, that I threw him down on the couch one night and mounted him. At first he was terrified - yes, TERRIFIED. He thought something had possessed me. And it HAD -- it was sheer MADNESS. I ****ed the **** out of him that night. And then he sighed and said "Oh, that was nice".

Now that we had the cowgirl position conquered (always with that sigh afterwards), it was time to move on to doggie. His ex-girlfriend never did doggie (hmmm... maybe there's a "nice" ex-girlfriend to blame for his timid niceness?? That *****...). Anyway, I digress. I tell him I want him to **** me from behind. Yes, I used the word "****" and I didn't care what he thought about it. He gets behind me and enters me, and damned if he didn't say "OH, THIS IS NICE" !!! Are there any 35 y/o men out there that haven't smacked a woman's ass when doing her doggie?? YES, and he's my boyfriend!

Tonight during sex, I think I'm gonna tell him to stick his finger in my ass when I'm riding him. THAT should be interesting.

So for the nice guys out there, my advice is this: It's great that you're nice (to an extent), but have some backbone. Don't be a spine donor all your life. When your girl is out of line, say something. Don't let her walk all over you. Occasionally, be a "bad" boy (being bad doesn't translate to abusive or criminal). Say "No" to her sometimes. Raise your voice and be heard. Say something dirty/sexy to her occasionally. Drink a few too many beers and piss out in public. Smack her ass. Don't ever use the word NICE to describe things, especially sex (okay, that may be a personal pet peeve). Have an interest in at LEAST one sport (or pretend to). Drive 5-10 miles over the speed limit once in awhile. Run an old lady off the road just for kicks (yeah, I'm kidding about this one... just ride her bumper for a few miles). Be aggressive during sex. Take off those damn white socks and Jesus sandals. Grow a goatee for a few weeks. Shave your balls. Stray from your routine and shake things up.

BE A MAN FOR GOD'S SAKE... and the women will fall at your feet.

Whew... THAT FELT NICE."
 

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This woman is describing an AFC. Something you have to remember is that there's a difference between being a nice guy and being an AFC. AFCs are what women despise, not necessarily nice guys. Also, it's entirely possible to be both a nice guy and a DJ at the same time. It's called being charming, and based on my experience, being charming is much more effective than being a jerk, any day of the week :up:.
 

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so ur saying we should put ourselves and others in danger by driving dangerously, jus for dating? how is she gettin turned off by sumthin as little and insignificant as how the man drives? that's just stupid. i drive the speed limit all the time, it jus means i actually care about myself and others. go date a freakin drunken idiot,cuz, no girl is worth getting in a wreck or acting like a idoit over
 
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ewww stick his finger in her butt...


yuck!


she mite as well ask for a dirty sanchez afterwards...freakin pyscho horny girl

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You heard it straught from the hor's mouth - stop treating hors like women and start treating them like hors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I believe the key is to be a gentleman in public (that doesn't mean wuss btw) and a savage in the bedroom. Seems to work for me. ;)
 

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Sean O said:
This woman is describing an AFC. Something you have to remember is that there's a difference between being a nice guy and being an AFC. AFCs are what women despise, not necessarily nice guys. Also, it's entirely possible to be both a nice guy and a DJ at the same time. It's called being charming, and based on my experience, being charming is much more effective than being a jerk, any day of the week :up:.
Nah not really. When women use the term "nice guy" like this, it's usually in the negative sense, and what we refer to as AFC. You're never going to hear a woman say "he's such an AFC" are you. Because it's not in their vocabulary; "nice guy" is.

It is kind of an unfair use of the word though. The term that should be used is something like "boring pushover".
 

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Funny thing is.. He's shown control, and now Kona wants him, more passionately. She's chasing him.

Don't recommend acting so "nice". But, as Style (Neil Strauss) has said, the dichotomy isn't between nice guys and jerks, it's between weak and strong.
 

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Raikojo17 said:
i drive the speed limit all the time, it jus means i actually care about myself and others.
Either drive the speed of traffic or don't drive at all. On I-15 in California, 85-90 mph is the normal driving speed in the far left lane. The speed limit is 65 mph. Anyone driving the speed limit (or lower) is at higher risk of causing a traffic accident.
 

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You used the word nice so many times that I think I subconciously picked it up. Thanks alot.
 

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Warboss Alex said:
I believe the key is to be a gentleman in public (that doesn't mean wuss btw) and a savage in the bedroom. Seems to work for me. ;)
A-GOODGODDAMN-MEN! :up:
 

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NICE is not the problem

I don't believe nice as in gentle, thoughtful, altrustic is the culprit here.

I believe you can be a nice human being and still possess a pair of 16lb balls. Being an ass, being a selfish prick, being a rude wretch...none of these traits will qualify you as a "Don Juan" or a "PUA" or some supreme alpha specimen.

Nice, in the sense that we loathe and try to avoid at all costs, is simply another way of saying bland. That is one thing I never want to be, and women who are bland hold zero attraction for me, regardless of how big their tits are or how well they can shove a banana down their throat.

And besides, I hate sports.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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For a true DJ to thrive he must accept his duality. What I mean is, you can't live the dull PUA mindset every minute of every day because what will happen is it becomes transparent and lifeless. What I've become is so much more than the sum of my parts.

I ooze confidence with both my public and private personae. The only difference is my tender side bleeds out when I'm making sweet lovin' with my woman.

She will attest to the fact that she loves it when my raw, animalistic nature runs rampant around the bedroom ( then follows her out to the kitchen for peanut butter pie!).
 

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Deus ex Pianoforte said:
I was going to say something about a remark someone made about speeding, but then I didn't want to hijack the thread, so I went and created a new one in Anything Else. :p


Does anyone else wonder why this chick is still with this loser of a man? "Oh, that was nice." Are you f'uckin' kidding me? She is either A) attracted to something else about this man that trumps his WWWBAFCness or B) LIKES the nice guy, and doesn't want to admit it to herself.
Maybe you missed the part where she alluded to him being well-off. Why the hell else would a woman stick with a guy whom she's not attracted to and doesn't enjoy the sex?
 

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Good Post.
Always a pleasure to read a woman's crying out for some BALLS.

And charm...
What, no ass play!? lol
Thats like the key to turning that HB into the enraged kink *****, she wants to be.
 

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