Free keylogger?

[Razor Sharp]

Legalities aside, the fact that you want to do this says a few things

* You have serious paranoia/control issues
* She's possibly doing things that make you suspicious
* You've been severely burned before and will probably never trust another soul

I'd offer advice, but I know what a waste of time that is since you seem pretty keen on burning your hand in the fire even after people warn you it's hot.

Do what you need to do. Everyone learns their lessons differently. Just know that this is not the way that mentally healthy adults develop trusting relationships. It's not even close.

As usual, you are doing it wrong and no, I won't help you find spyware to snoop on the girl who you have unprotected sex with even though she's obviously not trustworthy. :crazy:

 

[Bluntmaster]

Legalities aside, the fact that you want to do this says a few things

* You have serious paranoia/control issues
* She's possibly doing things that make you suspicious
* You've been severely burned before and will probably never trust another soul

I'd offer advice, but I know what a waste of time that is since you seem pretty keen on burning your hand in the fire even after people warn you it's hot.

Do what you need to do. Everyone learns their lessons differently. Just know that this is not the way that mentally healthy adults develop trusting relationships. It's not even close.

As usual, you are doing it wrong and no, I won't help you find spyware to snoop on the girl who you have unprotected sex with even though she's obviously not trustworthy. :crazy:

I have issues? Give me a break. Take a look around. I bet that guy in the thread about his wife cheating trusted her too.

It's called pre emptive snooping to make sure I have a good woman.

 

[Alle_Gory]

Just know that this is not the way that mentally healthy adults develop trusting relationships. It's not even close.

I say do it. If you find something, then you had every right to be suspicious. If you find nothing then she's trustworthy so be happy and stop worrying.

 

[Huffman]

Why should this be illegal? Its his computer and he can install/run whatever he wants.

When I was at university I took a couple of classes in Privacy&Telecommunication Law, and it's indeed a grey area if it's your own computer.

However, since the messages are private it is the same as a phone conversation. Imagine you rent out your house and you tap your renters' phone line, that would be illegal. Or if you're an email provider and you read your clients' mail. That is illegal too (save for technical diagnosis or anonymous statistics). At least for Federal Law in Germany, maybe America is more lenient?

I don't remember exactly, and you are right, nothing will happen, no court would take a case like this. But just saying, because you wanted to know. We all know law and reality are two different things

 

[JustLurk]

Nothing's gonna happen to you, because lack of evidence etc. but still.

He posted here, didn't he? Then he put a keylogger on the computer he posted this with.. That would be plenty of evidence. Of course, it's a gray area, but the next news story with the "wtf feminists court computers" comment threads may just as well be about him.

Either way, what are you looking for? Just log her on in a guest account and after she's done, check the cookies. Even if she knew to delete her cookies, check her LSO. She would most likely not know to delete LSO unless you're dating a paranoid chick or someone with an IT background. Neither of those things are illegal, because it's data she already voluntarily stored on her computer and didn't delete it.. That's really not even in the gray area. That should tell you just about everything she was up to. Another possibility is to remote access your computer while she's on it and leave the other computer on screen record. Again, that's not the sort of thing that sounds bad. Remember, judges can be notoriously technologically backwards. In legal-speak, "keylogger" is a lot more likely to get you in trouble than, say, "checked the LSO" or "was screen recording over VNC" or something.
IMHO installing a keylogger is both a waste of resources and sounds paranoid as hell. Just check computer history, it's easier, less intrusive, less risky, and about as effective.
Edit: If you want to go paranoid, and your home account isn't encrypted, or even if it is, and your chick was anything like an IT manager or sysadmin, she could still get to your data. Very few computers can handle hacking by someone that has physical access to it. Of course she wasn't I would suppose, but what if she secretly was?

 

[Bluntmaster]

It's too late! The logger is already installed and she'll be over for the whole weekend.

Go and use the computer baby! Take your time while I play xbox!

I will never be caught, she will never know!

I will know everything by Monday.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Blunt, now you're just rationalizing.

First you said you trust her. Now you say you do not trust her.

Don't try and cover your tracks to us here mate. Just be straight up and honest and say "I don't trust anyone".

I'm cool with that, hell, I feel the same way.

Well I trust her as much as I can trust a girl I've known for 3 months. But she uses my computer and just puts all her info out there like that, so I can't resist the temptation to snoop. She's foreign so my biggest concern is she has some boyfriend in a far off land that I don't know about. We'll see. I'm not going to waste any more time on this girl if she is shady so it's best to find out now for sure.

I don't think she is shady. But I have the opportunity to be 100% sure, so why not take it?

 

[Brighty]

Listen to me.

You do not want to start down this road. It's just as much addicting as it is toxic. Why are you doing this in the first place? Because some random guy on this forum was being cheated on by his girlfriend? That seems like a pretty paper-thin excuse; sluts cheat on their boyfriends all the time. This is not news to anyone. This is why we don't get into relationships with sluts. The question is why does this instance suddenly have you concerned enough to violate your girlfriends privacy and trust? Could it be that your subconscious is trying to tell you something about this girl? If so, then you shouldnt be dating her in the first place.

I'm just telling you that once you do this, it's a slippery slope. You tell yourself its just going to be this one time "just to be sure" and then you can trust her again, but it won't be. You're deluding yourself if you think it will be. You already have her password and info at your disposal, do you honestly think that will be the end of it?

If you had been married to this girl for a while and there were signs of her being shady or cheating I would advocate this, but in your case this is absurd. Consider that she hasn't even done anything to make you question her and you're already spying on her. What's going to be the next obscure thing that sets you off in the future? What happens when she casually mentions a guy friend, or goes away on a trip with her family? What happens when something vaguely questionable comes up? What if you guys get into an argument? Then you start needing to "know for sure" every time something makes you feel even the slightest bit paranoid. Soon enough you will be checking it periodically because to a certain degree you will be addicted to the absurd idea that she is hiding something from you. There will be no trust in the relationship.

If you care about this girl, and I mean genuinely care and want a serious relationship with her, you will not do this. I'm most likely wasting my words on you - you already seem obsessed and convinced that this is the right thing to do - but this will ultimately destroy any future you have with this girl.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Listen to me.

You do not want to start down this road. It's just as much addicting as it is toxic. Why are you doing this in the first place? Because some random guy on this forum was being cheated on by his girlfriend? That seems like a pretty paper-thin excuse; sluts cheat on their boyfriends all the time. This is not news to anyone. This is why we don't get into relationships with sluts. The question is why does this instance suddenly have you concerned enough to violate your girlfriends privacy and trust? Could it be that your subconscious is trying to tell you something about this girl? If so, then you shouldnt be dating her in the first place.

I'm just telling you that once you do this, it's a slippery slope. You tell yourself its just going to be this one time "just to be sure" and then you can trust her again, but it won't be. You're deluding yourself if you think it will be. You already have her password and info at your disposal, do you honestly think that will be the end of it?

If you had been married to this girl for a while and there were signs of her being shady or cheating I would advocate this, but in your case this is absurd. Consider that she hasn't even done anything to make you question her and you're already spying on her. What's going to be the next obscure thing that sets you off in the future? What happens when she casually mentions a guy friend, or goes away on a trip with her family? What happens when something vaguely questionable comes up? What if you guys get into an argument? Then you start needing to "know for sure" every time something makes you feel even the slightest bit paranoid. Soon enough you will be checking it periodically because to a certain degree you will be addicted to the absurd idea that she is hiding something from you. There will be no trust in the relationship.

If you care about this girl, and I mean genuinely care and want a serious relationship with her, you will not do this. I'm most likely wasting my words on you - you already seem obsessed and convinced that this is the right thing to do - but this will ultimately destroy any future you have with this girl.

You're right. I'm not going to do it. I uninstalled the keylogger.

 

[Brighty]

You're right. I'm not going to do it. I uninstalled the keylogger.

To be honest, I didn't expect that. Good for you, you have more willpower than a lot of people. You probably saved yourself a lot of unnecessary drama, and more importantly, saved yourself from developing a terrible, self destructive addiction for any future relationships. If you're serious about this relationship, think about what trust actually is - believing someone even though you don't know for sure. That powerful understanding between two people sits at the core of every relationship where it influences everything between them. Do you trust her? If you do, great, if not then you should probably end the relationship. Go with your gut, don't waste your time with some girl you don't trust. But whatever you do don't spy - that's just putting a temporary band-aid on the problem - because when you can only trust the girl as long as her password stays the same then the relationship is doomed from the start.

 

[backbreaker]

My first real LTR this is how I knew she was cheating. I didn't install it for her, there is a keylogger on every PC I have, it comes in handy for different reasons. But the day she did not come home on time from the club and was like 4 hours late I checked the logger and sure enough. I knew waht she was doing before she walked through the door and had already decideed at that point to kick her out in the morning.

 

[squirrels]

Anyone know a good free keylogger? I want to install it this weekend before my girl comes over. She uses my computer to go to all of her sites and I want to make sure she isn't up to anything funny.

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C'mon, man. When are you gonna learn?

Why the hell are you running with some skank you have to keylog to make sure she isn't getting d!ck behind your back?

 

[Bluntmaster]

http://picardfacepalm.com/picard-facepalm.jpg

C'mon, man. When are you gonna learn?

Why the hell are you running with some skank you have to keylog to make sure she isn't getting d!ck behind your back?

She's not a skank at all. She's a good girl. I just felt like doing it for entertainment purposes but I changed my mind.

 

[Alle_Gory]

I just felt like doing it for entertainment purposes but I changed my mind.

That's messed up dude.

 

[cordoncordon]

I have issues? Give me a break. Take a look around. I bet that guy in the thread about his wife cheating trusted her too.

It's called pre emptive snooping to make sure I have a good woman.

You haven't changed a bit. I honestly wonder how any sane woman could date you. Like Seinfeld says....you are "undatable!"

 

[Bluntmaster]

You haven't changed a bit. I honestly wonder how any sane woman could date you. Like Seinfeld says....you are "undatable!"

This is the sanest girl I have ever dated. She is completely normal and she is a prude. I don't think she has ever sucked a d!ck and she has maybe been with a few guys.

It doesn't matter what I do, she will come back because she loves me. If I asked her to marry me she would. She doesn't drink or party or do any of that stuff. She wants to stay at home and cook and clean all day while I worry about the bills. And ofcourse she would love it if I impregnated her but I am not going to let that happen. I busted in her once but it was during her period. I wanted to spy on her to find a reason to get rid of her and bang other women.

She has game too. She isn't clingy or anything like that.

I really don't have to worry about her cheating, it took 5 dates just to kiss her, and 7 to bang. And she only started banging because I dumped her on the sixth date for being a prude.

 

[Alle_Gory]

It doesn't matter what I do, she will come back because she loves me.

Everyone has a limit, even a prudish good girl. You might be able to screw around more because of that, but if you go too far you're done.



I can't believe I just wrote the above for a 31 year old.

 

[Bluntmaster]

Everyone has a limit, even a prudish good girl. You might be able to screw around more because of that, but if you go too far you're done.



I can't believe I just wrote the above for a 31 year old.

........keep not believing because you haven't said anything important.

I treat her good, that's why she comes back. I also have everything together, that's why she comes back. I'm making bank, have my own house that I let her use on the weekends when I am not there, and I am basically a pimp other than putting her on the streetcorner every morning.

Stop pretending you are teaching me something while you post from your parents house.

However, that Brighty kid did convince me to not go through with the keylogger idea, so I give him props.

 

[L B]

I don't agree with the spying on her to find fault to dump her, but just don't get caught.

Make sure you login in her site the same day. Some sites have the "last login date and time."

The time part she might think she forgot to logout, but the date part, if she's observant, she will notice.

 

[Bluntmaster]

I don't agree with the spying on her to find fault to dump her, but just don't get caught.

Make sure you login in her site the same day. Some sites have the "last login date and time."

The time part she might think she forgot to logout, but the date part, if she's observant, she will notice.

You agree with the keylogger idea or you don't agree? Your post isn't clear.