Freddie Gray's death ruled a homicide; 6 Baltimore officers charged

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Yeah.... A history of brutality and the BPD losing over 100 cases in the last few years is certainly affirmative action justice :rolleyes: Those cops weren't going to jail either and the settlements were all low payouts due to garbage legislation. Some justice huh?

http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/

Some people refuse to argue the facts though. And my posts on the last page have highlighted clear cases of brutality and injustice. OP, I would really like you to address that article, as well the ending of my first post in this thread. What do you think about a cop getting no jail time after he wildly shoots into a crowd of unarmed people and places a bullet into the back of a young woman's head?

She later died and her killer walks free.

PS - Id love to see how anyone could defend the Rekia Boyd killing case in Chicago. How is it that a cop can shoot wildly into a crowd of unarmed people, and see no jail time? How is it that a DA can tank the case by undercharging? But yeah...how dare citizens be outraged at these things. Its simply black supremacist to demand accountability from officials and those in power.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...ly-undercharged-officer-who-killed-Rekia-Boyd

Also, let me repeat...Ms. Mosby is not trying to appease anyone. She's seeking justice and comes from a long line of cops. Her family is filled with cops. Her parents, uncles, grandparents and even great-relatives were cops. Here's that post again.

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Mosby is so awful right? I mean...she doesnt care about the law and justice...just black supremacy :rolleyes:

I mean its not like her family consists of 4 generations of police officers....oh wait...

Seems this woman with a familial legacy of law enforcement and public service, has a vested interest in seeking justice.

If both Ms Mosby's parents were cops and the Baltimore police don't want her prosecuting them, what does that say?
A family of public servants. Ms. Mosby refuses to be a bootlicker despite her family history. She's doing what is right. A man died mysteriously in the custody of a police force known for abusing van rides and other cases of brutality. This is all well documented. Thus she is right to charge these officers and find the truth.

Cops get off the hook easy around the country all the time. John Crawford was minding his own business and killed while shopping. Tamir Rice was playing in the park. Rekia Boyd was hanging out with friends. All unarmed...all without criminal history...all killed by cops who walk free and no one was held accountable for their deaths. Its like they didnt fvking matter.

Those are examples of criminal cops being treated with "kid's gloves and releasing suspect [that] will increase crime victimization, especially for blacks who are the main victims."
 

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Not convinced. I don't like police brutality or police that act thuggish or being unaccountable.. But you only want to talk about the relatively rare heavy-handed police incidents when it's against your people. You never talk about the vastly larger problem of violence and crime in this same group against each other, other groups and the police. This "community" has an issue with respecting the law and authority. The only thing they understand is a heavy hand. You're throwing stones from a glass house. Baltimore has been liberal and black run for decades, so don't go blaming others.
 

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Police brutality is not rare in Baltimore. Read the damn article from the Baltimore Sun. Talk to some people from Baltimore.

And stop making this about race and politics. Im talking about holding cops accountable. This isnt a liberal vs conservative thing. And this isnt a black vs white thing (especially given the officers involved). So qu!t that **** and answer each of the questions in my last post and quit running away from them.

You have a habit of avoiding my questions when I present clear cut and proven facts to you. Tell me...how can you defend cops assaulting an elderly woman...or abusing a pregnant woman. What about beating a man until his kidneys fail. That sounds like cops who dont respect the communities their supposed to serve. Those are things the BPD has done to its citizens.

Dont fvking talk about the citizens not respecting the police, when the police are corrupt as hell in Baltimore and dont respect the people. Now go back, reread my last post, and answer the questions I asked of you. Stop deflecting and stop running away from the debate.

PS - The red herring of crime by ordinary citizens is not going to cut it. Civilians are punished for their crimes, and the criminal cops that exist in Baltimore rarely, if ever are. Thats what people there are pissed about. You obviously dont give a sh!t about equal application of the law and equal accountability.
 
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This. Is. A. Ploy. To. Cause. Civil. Unrest. And. Racial. Tension. Fueling. A. Race. War. To. Distract. From
Constitutional. Rights. Being. Stripped. Away. WAKE UP
 

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The thing I find odd is these cops had to be either extremely stupid or they're being set up for election reasons. Cops know damn well if you beat a prisoner or go overboard you'll get found out by medical examiners etc.

If they didnt buckle him in with no good reason or they did beat him theyve got to be supreme morons.

Im also wondering if and why there are no cameras in the back of those wagons. If so and it comes out the dude was trying to hurt himself. There goes that bs story.

If they actually did beat the dude? See ya.

It could most likely be a political set up as well for votes. As in theyre going to get railroaded and a lot of defense evidence thrown out.

No one knows. But seeing tons of things on prisons and all the scams they try to pull constantly on the establishments white black etc..i see a lot of the community learning from it and the "establishment" going along with it for their own benefit.

same as banks. The same scams theyve gotten over the years. They pull right back on customers and its "legal".
 

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Stagger Lee said:
I don't like to see any one victimized by the racist/sexist liberals, but the problem is dieversity has been put in charge of many US cities. Even the US attorney is a black woman now. It's very hard for a white person to find a good job nowadays, and with affirmative action leaving little left over it's actually pretty hard to get on a police force especially the department you'd want to be on. I don't agree with giving everything up to dieversity, turning our backs on others trying to make it where they can and running. There's no where left to run to really. The dieversity stalk us every where, the government encourages it even and seeds them every where.


The state's attorney is cracking an egg to make an omelet. You are ignoring that the rioters, rioting over a black criminal, being appeased are black; the mayor is black; the state's attorney bring the charges is black etc. It's never been my position that anyone besides the leaders really benefit under black and liberal supremacy, not even the majority of blacks.

My argument is blacks want "affirmative action" in the justice system. Policing with kid's gloves and releasing suspect will increase crime victimization, especially for blacks who are the main victims.


Stagger Lee should just come out and say he hates blacks believing they are too stupid to get anywhere without affirmative action. His same beliefs are being broadcasted throughout our conservative media that the right claims is "liberal".

Stagger Lee wants to claim a "white victim mentality" when most whites are executives and blacks live in the slums. People like him only want to see blacks with caps on their heads and brooms in their hands holding down a slaves job. If a black is holding a high position, they claim it's "affirmative action" for their only reason of being there. They get pissed off, claiming they are taking away the white man's job. But when a black right winger like Herman Cain is a pizza chain executive, they praise him, saying it's perfectly acceptable for him to have that job. They pat him on the back, use him as an example, proclaiming "all blacks should be like Herman". But when blacks do set out to be successful, these same hypocrites cry "affirmative action" taking away jobs for whites, claiming blacks don't deserve to be there.

Stagger Lee and other right wingers are quick to point the finger at Gray and the protesters calling them thugs and saying they should be responsible people with good jobs. But when black officials have important jobs, doing what Stagger Lee and right wingers claim they should be doing, those people like Stagger Lee get pissed off crying "affirmative action" with their "white victim mentality". They are hypocrites, and their only purpose is to attack blacks and liberals for whatever suits their propaganda. If they are thugs, they are bad living black thug culture. If they have good jobs, it's "affirmative action", and they don't deserve it contributing to black victimization and liberalism destroying society. You can't win with these hateful clowns, they always find a way to spew their contempt and vitriol against blacks and Liberals.

This is America where any person can work hard to get ahead in life. It isn't "affirmative action" when a person of color is qualified to be at that position. It isn't stealing "the white man's job" when the white man wasn't as qualified to have that job. This isn't a "white world" like some people want it to be, where whites can only have important positions.

Stagger Lee seems to forget about the conservative white south where whites hold important jobs racking up debt in their states making the poor rural conservative whites the victims with their poor economy. We didn't benefit as a country under white and conservative supremacy when George W Bush and his neo cons, drug us off to Iraq in a phony war lying to us about WMD's, and nearly brought our country in to a Great Depression with their failed conservative economic policies. Nor did we benefit from white "white collar criminals" who ran our banks and ruined people's lives with their banking scandals ruining our economy. But that's ok to to them, because it's white conservatives who they agree with, who did all the damage and they don't care about it. It's only the blacks and liberals who they claim are the real bad guys causing all the destruction when it's their own that caused the problems.

People like Stagger Lee are too stupid to understand that the blacks he rails against benefiting from "affirmative action", were actually elected by the citizens of the city and State making them more than qualified to hold their position. It is not "affirmative action" when they were chosen by the vast majority of the citizens to represent them. Again that's how stupid they are. The propaganda Stagger Lee spins comes from our conservative media, trying to get people to believe that jobs are just given out to blacks just for the hell of it, eliminating any prosperity for whites. The right wing media is pushing the racist race card, trying to blame Liberals and blacks for being racist and full of hate, when it's them who are showing it each and every day with their right wing hate news broadcasts and forum posts.
 

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You have to experience cops to really call this, and I don't mean a traffic stop, you have to be arrested. My first arrest was in Miami, I got really drunk and stupid and crashed the house, second one was in Sochi, I was passanger of my own car we got drunk and ran away from cops on a 4x4 across sidewalks and stuff, and got caught. Here I was pulled from the car, they broke my gold chain when I was pulled out and slammed on the ground, then they kicked me on the ground with boots and botans, but it wasn't much, I didn't even have bruces on me. I got off for about 700 bucks that same night, no charges. In Miami they almost shot me and broke my front tooth when I was slammed face into wall in the elevator, cop did it on purpose, even though I was cuffed and wasn't resisting. I'm saying that there is potential for abuse when you deal with cops. There is a difference between what you see on TV shows like 'The Cops', the traffic stops, and what is really going on when you get arrested.

I doubt that he banged his head against a car. I also doubt that all 6 officers beat the jesus out of him. Most likely he got knocked by one officer who thought it is good entertainment, got a head himotoma and died. They grabbed all 6 because now some of them will talk. Usually cops don't rat each other out.

For anyone reading this especially blacks, I advice to respect the criminal law, the only thing you have to know and abide by.



P.S. Most of you are forgetting couple of things, innocent until proven guilty, and once you are in custody people holding your in custody are responsible for your well being. We have police to protect us, even those of us that do break the law, even if from ourselves. Police are not the judge, not the jury, and definately not an excutioner.
 

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"when most whites are executives and blacks live in the slums"
Embers 84
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Of all of the mind-numbing stupidity you type and all the hilarious ignorance you spew, this is the funniest thing I have ever read. It's also the most telling.

You embers are a mouth breathing racist. It's right there in 10 words.
 

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This is a great development. Police are running wild and it's nice to see legal pushback against it.

My only issue is that it's becoming clear that rioting gets results. While I like the results in many cases I don't like the means and it doesn't bode well for the future.

Unless the police and courts get the message and start acting human that is.
 

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Sh!tlibs have already started e-preening over their affirmative action "badass" super hero. "She be collectin big bad Aryan scalps yo"

Check out the sycophantic sh!tlib mommy bloggers in the comments section blowing smoke up their new "queens" ass. This faggotry of bread circuses for the unwashed masses is shaping up to possibly match that whole saint skittles saga.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/01/mee...prosecutor_fighting_for_justice_in_baltimore/

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Danger said:
Are you sure "its not about race"? I mean, Espi just made a rant about racist police and about how awful it would be to be a black man, and you completely agreed with him.

Make up your mind.
:crackup: You noticed that too? I wasn't going to say anything but I'm glad you did. First he nods along with espi "yeah yeah right on espi we is so oppressed by the white devil n sheeeeit" then when he responds to stagger it's "ummm it's not about race sh!tlord!!". The nimrod forgot his own narrative.
 

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I'm surprised none of you have heard of the trans-national deal. Yeah Obama passed it while all this was going down. 19 countries in on a FREE TRADE DEAL with the USA, Canada and Mexico as three of the biggest participants... but lets burn down a city in the USA to protest a criminal accidentally dying.

The deal excludes China/Russia if you are wondering.

But who cares about that.
 

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It's funny (well, not actually), that 3 of the cops are black lol. I mean, doesn't this make the Pro Black narrative a little off here? You know, it's the white cops that are killing black men, but in this case it was really the black cops that did it more so than the 3 white cops.

So is the new narrative that Black Cops are killing black people? Wait, that would be black on black crime, and I forgot....Pro Blacks don't care about that lol.

The people tearing down Baltimore were MAINLY under the impression that the cops were white. I bet you...any amount of money...that if they knew the cops were black, you would not have heard a WORD.
 

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Tictac said:
Robert Byrd was a Klan Exalted Cyclops.

Think about that.
Nice red herring deflection attempt grandpa.

I didnt know the old racist fuddy duddy Byrd, who was allowed to remain in politics was the topic of discussion here. But hey, go ahead and try to steer attention away from the Baltimore City PD because it makes you uncomfortable that some of them have KKK ties. You have a habit of trying to direct attention onto other topics in threads when presented with facts you dislike.

Personally, I dont give two sh!ts what someone's supposed political affiliation is. Racist fvkbags should not be in positions of authority or power.
 

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Baltimore, like most other sh*thole urban enclaves, has been in the firm control of Democrats since the last Republican mayor left the mayorship in 1967.

So look for your racist fvckbag poster boys and girls where power and authority have been for 50 years - the democrats.
 

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Tictac said:
Baltimore, like most other sh*thole urban enclaves, has been in the firm control of Democrats since the last Republican mayor left the mayorship in 1967.

So look for your racist fvckbag poster boys and girls where power and authority have been for 50 years - the democrats.
Youre trying to make this about partisan politics when it isnt. This is about police abuse of power all across the country...in areas that are blue and red idiot. This sh!t in Baltimore is not unique to the city...nor are discriminatory police practices unique to blue or red areas.

Idiots like you can never ever have a fvking discussion about the problems in America without trying to inject some partisan bullsh!t into the mix. Fact of the matter is that both parties have their idiots and closet racists...but it pains you to be able to say that doesn't it?

Also, most of the BPD officers live in the burbs where it gets prertty red dummie.

But hey, old Fox news watchers are not known for having a rational look at things. The typical response to any problem in the country is to blame the donkey and ignore the elephant.
 

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The Mayor appoints the Police Commissioner who hires/fires the Chief of Police who hires/fires police officers.

So who is responsible for this again? Cities have the police forces that their political leaders give them.

Are you really that dim Gaylan? Is it possible that you don't know how this works? Pull your head out of your a** for a minute if you can manage it.

Dummy. Pfft.
 

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Tictac said:
The Mayor appoints the Police Commissioner who hires/fires the Chief of Police who hires/fires police officers.

So who is responsible for this again? Cities have the police forces that their political leaders give them.

Are you really that dim Gaylan? Is it possible that you don't know how this works? Pull your head out of your a** for a minute if you can manage it.

Dummy. Pfft.
And again fool..what dont you understand about this issue being a problem all across the country in both red and blue areas. This is not a partisan political issue. This is a policing problem country wide regardless of political affiliation.

Where the fvk are you when this sh!t happens in areas that are mostly red? Where's your condemnation of GOP practices? Like I said, you give the responses of a typical old foggie Fox News watcher. Just blame the dems right?

*shrugs*...like someone said in a recent article I read...America changes when close minded old loons die out. Generational turnover.
 
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