FR: well, kinda :P

[Dominicus]

there is this new girl at work who joined a couple of weeks ago, and in that time we've chitchatted here and there, and we get along pretty well. i pull C+F whenever possible and she always laughs. i smile at her whenever i see her and she does the same, and she even comes up to me and initiates convo.

so today, we were working alongside each other and i was using a LOT of C+F and we were both having a great time. eye contact was solid and there was even some light kino.

anyway, her car was totalled, so she had to wait to get picked up by her dad. i offered her a ride home, and she quickly accepted. the whole way back we were having some good convo and i was making her laugh a lot of the time. she was asking me almost as many questions as i was asking her and that whole lot.

dominicus: yea, i really like going to XXX mall, its so much fun
her: me too! i LOVE going there! i wish i could go there tonight!
dominicus: oh yea? lets do it! lets go!
her: i cant because i have a bunch of chores to do and if i dont do them, my dad will ground me
dominicus: alright, some other time then.
her: ok cool

^^ this came up and it kind of started a little doubt in my head b/c she "couldnt" go. maybe she was being legit and DID have to do HW

so we continue to chit chat the whole way home, i ask for the digits, she writes them down, etc.

i think everything went pretty well and i plan on asking her if she wants to do something next weekend, BUT there are a few things that kinda bug me. first of all, she's at least a HB8, and im not gonna lie, im not the best looking guy in the world. i have an average face, and im pretty tall (6'1") but i got some extra baggage. im not obese or really fat, but im deffinetely a little chubby. i just dont see how a guy like me could get a girl like her. the best looking girl i've been with was maybe a HB6.5 (granted, that was a year ago when i had almost NO game, and i've improved a lot since then). im just wondering if there's any chance i could get with her, or if i should just "next" right away because i dont even wanna have to deal going down the LJBF road.

the other thing that i noticed was that she wasnt really flirting back as much as im used to. sure, there was some, but when i know that a girl is into me, she is ussually flirting back a bunch (acting all C+F towards me, etc.). perhaps this girl is just a little quieter? i also noticed that for as good as this girl looks, not many guys at work hit on her compared to all the other chicks.

what do you guys think on both issues i bring up? thx.

 

[EdHunter]

"first of all, she's at least a HB8, and im not gonna lie, im not the best looking guy in the world. i have an average face, and im pretty tall (6'1") but i got some extra baggage. im not obese or really fat, but im deffinetely a little chubby. i just dont see how a guy like me could get a girl like her. the best looking girl i've been with was maybe a HB6.5 (granted, that was a year ago when i had almost NO game, and i've improved a lot since then). im just wondering if there's any chance i could get with her, or if i should just "next" right away because i dont even wanna have to deal going down the LJBF road."

Do not even begin to think like that...guys who look way worse than you do get women all the time. If she LJBFs you, it probably won't be because you're a little chubby, it'll be because you have a negative mindset that's assuming you'll lose. As for not wanting to deal with the LJBF thing...as we say in debate, the impact to this is the status quo. That is, if you don't do anything, you'll fall into an LJBF situation anyway, so there's only a chance you'll improve if you go after her.


"the other thing that i noticed was that she wasnt really flirting back as much as im used to. sure, there was some, but when i know that a girl is into me, she is ussually flirting back a bunch (acting all C+F towards me, etc.). perhaps this girl is just a little quieter? i also noticed that for as good as this girl looks, not many guys at work hit on her compared to all the other chicks."
Don't worry about it. It sounds like you were doing everything right earlier (CF, kino, successful digit close), so I wouldn't worry about it. Additionally, just because she isn't totally flirting back hard doesn't mean she's not interested. In my opinion, IL isn't a binary state, but a spectrum---obviously she's at least a little interested, and you can build from that reservoir of interest. On the whole, keep up the good work, soldier!

 

[Dominicus]

alright, thanks for the input. anyone have anything else to add?

if this was just a street pickup, then i think i would be a lot more comfortable, but the fact that i work with her and will see her again at work even if i screw things up is making me hesitent about everything (probably why they suggest not to game girls at work:nervous: )

im thinking of calling her sometime next week (monday or tuesday) and setting up a date for that weekend (saturday). again, im a little hesitent not to rush things b/c we work together (even though i dont see her muc at work), but she DID give me her number, so why not go for it?

 

[The Shocker]

trust your instinct. It's telling you she wants you, so listen to that. Don't question yourself or your looks. It doesn''t matter at this point.

 

[Dominicus]

ok, now when im around her, should i keep trying to build repport? or should i start the "seduction" stuff to show her that im not here to be "just friends"?

one of the things i need to work on is when i build up enough interest level, i need to make sure that i can SHOW that i want to be more. i have a little kino throughout, but i dont feel that it is nearly enough.

i think im just going to try and push up the kino a LOT and go from there.

 

[wayword]

her: me too! i LOVE going there! i wish i could go there tonight!
dominicus: oh yea? lets do it! lets go!
her: i cant because i have a bunch of chores to do and if i dont do them, my dad will ground me
dominicus: alright, some other time then.
her: ok cool

Kawk-teasing AW...next.

 

[Dominicus]

care to elaborate?

she doesnt seem like an attention *****, in fact, she's more of the quiet type.

 

[Dominicus]

*UPDATE*

so i called her the other day to set up a day2. she didnt answer when i called her, but she immedietly called me back. i told her who i was and she seemed really happy, and then it went something like this:

Dominicus: hey, whats going on?
her: oh nothing, me and my sister were about to go ride our ATVs.
Dominicus: oh yea? thats cool. well listen, im actually busy right now, so when's a good time to call you back?
her: lets see, after we're done riding, i have a bunch of homework to do, then a shower, etc. but call me back around 10.
Dominicus: alright, if im not busy/i remember to, then i'll give you a call. bye.
her: *laugh* ok bye

for some reason, right after i got off the phone with her, i got this wierd vibe that she was really into me, and that i had her wrapped around my finger, but this feeling went away after a few hours.

so i called back around 10:30 but got the machine. either she was still busy, decided to go to bed, or didnt answer on purpose.

its so wierd because i know the conversation didnt sound like much, but she sounded somewhat nervous. not nervous as in "why is he calling me?" but nervous as in "ooh, he's calling me, i hope i dont embarrass myself". i am kinda irked that she didnt answer, but i'll just try calling her again on thursday.

im still really nervous about this girl b/c 1) i work with her (even though i dont see her much at work) and 2) she's one of those quiet nice girl types that arent good at letting you know if they're not interested or they might just act interested out of courtesy (although, she wasnt acting like she was being interested out of courtesy). this whole situation is all ****ed to hell. im ready to "next" her. what does everyone think?

 

[The Shocker]

I'm not quite sure why you said you were busy and wanted to call back. That seemed kinda weak, that she was leaving so you hastened to say that you were too and should call back...

She can delay her ATV trip for a few minutes to set up a date with you. You should have done that. Instead you gave her an opportunity to bail on you later by missing the 10 PM call. And she did.

 

[Dominicus]

"I'm not quite sure why you said you were busy and wanted to call back."

because i WAS busy and couldnt talk right then:crazy:.

but i understand where you're coming from.

 

[The Shocker]

you shouldn't have called in the first place if you didn't have time to set up a date. two minutes. that's all it takes.

 

[Dominicus]

yea, you're probably right.

hopefully i can get a hold of her in a few days and hopefully that attraction is still there