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Mr Wright

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Background: This is trickiest one I've had in a while so I've decided to write a field report about it. There is a girl I'm seeing in my extended social circle, we've been on a couple of dates, they went well but after the most recent one 2 weeks ago she began to take days to reply to texts and basically said she was too busy to meet up. Clear sign of disinterest. In my mind I cut my losses and moved on, I was okay about hanging out with her in a group setting and it wouldn't be awkward because most of our mutual friends didn't really know we were seeing each other. So we get to Thursday, I get the text to come out on a night and she's going too. Great. But there is also another girl going that I've had my eye on and they're good friends, I have no idea if she knows the situation but I set my sights on her for the evening.

Last night:

A few hours before we were meant to be meeting up, she starts messaging me again asking what time I'm going to get there and basically just keeping me updated about her movements. She even double messaged me a few times and considering how she was acting in the previous two weeks, I know she's playing games. We arrive and she's as friendly and chatty as ever, almost like nothing has changed. Later on we're in our group, we're all chatting and it's normal but I want to feel the temperature of what's going on a little so I start referring to her "buddy" and I can tell she doesn't like it. Interesting but doesn't prove much. Later on one of the guys we were with inadvertently blurted out that I fancied the other and the look on her face was priceless. He realised what he did and took it back but she gave the game away.

The night goes on and she corners me and wants to chat about what was going on between us. I guess I need to add a bit more context here, I didn't really chase her or say anything about how she acted. I just took the message, backed off and saw my other girls. No damage done. But she said she liked how relaxed I was about everything and that most guys get possessive over her quite quickly. She was even self aware enough to tell me why.
After all this, it wasn't clear so I did what I usually do and escalated the situation. I tried to kiss her but she gave me the cheek. I asked her what was up and she told me that she heard something about me, which was troubling her. I think one of the guys must have mentioned another girl I was seeing at one point but there's no use crying over spilled milk. As always I don't really react, I've found that by not giving them that feedback through facial expressions, it sends their mind in overdrive.

However, there is one more turd in the punch bowl for this chick because her friend is making eyes at me. I don't know her too well but I know she thinks I'm good looking. Up until later in the night I had been ignoring her and I know she didn't like that. But we began to catch each others eyes a little too much. I felt the connection, so she did too. She comes up to me holding some intense eye contact and says "you're naughty, I'm not getting involved in your games." I just continue staring into her eyes and all this is taking place about 3 feet away from this other chick. As far as I'm concerned that's a green light, no words were spoken previously but she felt that shït.

Anyway for the rest of the night, the original girl is as good as gold. She came onto me and kissed me. But it's getting late and people are heading home. She lives locally so invited a few people back to stay at hers, myself included. However, everyone except one other guy has disappeared, and he lives miles away and a cab would cost a lot. She's insisting that he comes back to hers and he's unsure what to do. At this point, privately to me she says the famous words "I'm not having sex with you tonight." I don't react but I know it's on her mind. I don't think I've ever not had sex with a girl who has said that. But she's really trying to convince this other guy to just stay at hers because he was very drunk so needed looking after. However, he insisted that he got a cab so we sent him on his way and got our own cab back to hers.

We get inside and lay down on her bed and start making out. She takes her jeans off. But she wont let me take her top off. We make out some more and I take it up a notch and become more aggressive. She likes it but she still wont take her top off and tells me that if she does we'll definitely end up having sex. That was her mental barrier. I go to take her top off again and she complies. Shes loving it, she tells me how much she's always wanted to fück me and she tells me to get a condom and it's a done deal.

But considering how much shït she thew at me, I expected more LMR but I guess her mind was pretty much made up by then. There wasn't any real resistance once I was back at hers. She definitely tried to trip me a up a few times during the night though and I feel like I dealt with it well. In the morning we fück again and chat. She says that she has no idea how to read me because I haven't really chased her and she's used to guys chasing her. I can imagine most guys tripping up somewhere along the line and I don't usually get these sort of tests from girls anymore. Maybe it's because she knows me a little better so has more of an idea what I'm about. She knows what she's doing, she told me that she knows the way she acts winds guys up. It even wound me up a bit but I know it's better to just leave it and get on with something else because if they're interested they'll come back to you. The next week or two should be interesting but I'm definitely wary of this one. Next up her hot friend.
 

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Sounds like it all went according to plan. Very well played.

Never underestimate the power of a woman to either try to fck things up before you've even started talking, albeit subconsciously, or sh!t test you to the point where you are the one who loses interest, or say one thing and do completely the opposite - in this case, or just have no idea what the fck they want.

All this leads to you just standing your ground, unwavering, just as you did. This is about all you ever need to understand, per se.

As an aside, when I hear about other guys talking about me behind my back, I distance myself from them permanently. What a fcking beta. Let me guess,he doesn't get laid or he's dating one of the mingers of the group. Gossips do my nut in, especially blokes. It's not fcking school any more ffs!
 

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surprised more havent commented on this , its a prime example of what virtually any modern woman worth her salt is prepared to put you through in order to make sure your “worth it”

This girl reminds me of an old oneitis of mine, the games and tests were almost exactly the same as these but i was much younger and too inexperienced back then......i failed every single one of them miserably

You played your hand well mr W , although i cant help but think you had a good few strikes of luck to help you nail this girl

1)There was at least two instances where 3rd parties helped to amp her interest in you during the party
2)She had her own place to go back too
3)All potential c0ck blocks seemed to have removed themselves pretty easily at the end of the night
4)I suspect from the second she started messaging you pre-party she wanted to get laid that night

I get nowhere near this kind of deal when im grafting and i am genuinely envious

Anyway all in all good stuff MR W this should be stickied as a guide to sh1t tests for noobs
 

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its very easy to understand women

look at her - evaluate emotional state (esp towards you) - evaluate wheather you can affect it - if so - go for the kill - if not - bail the fuk out asap

ofc thats only about sex, but if you put their whole life on the same analisys everything will make sense - its an endless streak of decisions based on their current mood - which is ofc stupid but hey

theyre pretty and smell nice (mostly) its all that matters
 

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BrainDamage92 said:
its very easy to understand women

look at her - evaluate emotional state (esp towards you) - evaluate wheather you can affect it - if so - go for the kill - if not - bail the fuk out asap

ofc thats only about sex, but if you put their whole life on the same analisys everything will make sense - its an endless streak of decisions based on their current mood - which is ofc stupid but hey

theyre pretty and smell nice (mostly) its all that matters
This is true... It's easy to understand women, you just need to realize they make decisions from an emotional framework.

Also NEVER trust what a woman says, it's not that she is lying, it's just that she communicates emotionally. Always evaluate her by her ACTIONS. If she is texting and calling you constantly, telling you how much she likes you, but when you try to make a date with her, she flakes, then THAT is what you need to pay attention to.

Conversely it she tells you she has a BF, but is always willing to meet up and go out with you, then you can pretty much guess that hte BF is not an obsticle.

Pay attention to what she does, NOT what she says.
 

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RangerMIke said:
Always evaluate her by her ACTIONS. If she is texting and calling you constantly, telling you how much she likes you, but when you try to make a date with her, she flakes, then THAT is what you need to pay attention to.
RangerMIke said:
Pay attention to what she does, NOT what she says.
Usually I would agree with you but look what I actually said. She had previously ignored messages from me, was too busy to meet up and even turned her cheek when I tried to escalate earlier in the night. She was openly giving someone else the option to come back to her place with her to act as a c0ckblock. Those actions don't look good but for some reason, shït still worked out. But come 2am she's naked on her back telling me how much she always wanted to fück me. And in the morning she's fine, fücking again, spooning and making breakfast. What's does all that saying? To me it says hold your frame and keep the situation moving forward, her actions the previous couple of weeks and even that night were overridden by arousal...probably. Maybe I was just in the right place at the right time but the whole situation doesn't really make sense. But onto the next one.
 

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Mr Wright said:
Usually I would agree with you but look what I actually said. She had previously ignored messages from me, was too busy to meet up and even turned her cheek when I tried to escalate earlier in the night. She was openly giving someone else the option to come back to her place with her to act as a c0ckblock. Those actions don't look good but for some reason, shït still worked out. But come 2am she's naked on her back telling me how much she always wanted to fück me. And in the morning she's fine, fücking again, spooning and making breakfast. What's does all that saying? To me it says hold your frame and keep the situation moving forward, her actions the previous couple of weeks and even that night were overridden by arousal...probably. Maybe I was just in the right place at the right time but the whole situation doesn't really make sense. But onto the next one.
With women it's all about the moment. One minute she could be all over you, the next she's trying to avoid you. It's all about how she feels that minute. All women are like this, you just have to let them come and go and not let it get to you.

How a women is acting right now is no indication of how she MIGHT act tomorrow.... get used to it.
 

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RangerMIke said:
With women it's all about the moment. One minute she could be all over you, the next she's trying to avoid you. It's all about how she feels that minute. All women are like this, you just have to let them come and go and not let it get to you.

How a women is acting right now is no indication of how she MIGHT act tomorrow.... get used to it.
Annoying but duly noted. I don't really hold my breath with girls these days anyway.
 

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It's all about control. Understand that all the sh-t she did was an attempt to control the frame. You did so well that she actually spelled it out for you, women don't normally do that. They pretend there was some other legitimate (bullsh-t) reason.

The behavior you demonstrated was that of a guy with options. It really is that simple.

I wish I knew the game as well as you when I was your age. Keep these fundamentals with you and you'll lead a happy life, as far as women are concerned.
 

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Update I dropped her a message a few days ago just to test the waters.

Me: You owe me chips. Acceptable forms of payment are beers or spooning. Choose one x

Her: Haha they were so nice. Is that you spooning me or me spooning you?

Me: Obviously you spooning me ;) when are you free?

Her: Lol okay, I'm in the process of having a few shifts swapped around so next week would be best, maybe Tuesday?

Me: Tuesday works for me


Considering getting anything out of her a few weeks ago with like drawing blood from a stone. Things may have turned but we'll see. Discretion is the key with this one because none of our friends actually know what happened the other night, one of them has an idea but nothing solid to go off of.
 
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