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SynTheUnscathed
Don Juan
Wow...you think evolution has solid evidence behind it...I think that says enough right there...:crackup:
The Bible is written history. The history begins with the world being created. What is older then that?
Badmannaz
Master Don Juan
LARRY KING :crackup:
SynTheUnscathed
Don Juan
haha...
thederekeffect1
Master Don Juan
First of all, there is nothing wrong with allowing yourself to fall in love. Love is one of lifes many treasurable pleasures and without love, you will feel incomplete. Do not look at love negatively. Instead, look at love as an experience in life.
Secondly, there is nothing wrong with being exclusive to one person. Exclusiveness is a choice. Don't fool yourself. The subject of exclusiveness should not be mixed in with the subject of seduction.
As for the poster... I know you want to be exclusive to her. That's fine. You can be exclusive to her if you choose to be. But remember, she doesn't have to remain exclusive until she decides that is what she wants. So, you'll have to cope with possible jealousy and feelings of betrayel somehow. The best way to do this is to allow yourself to see other people until she's ready to be exclusive.
Secondly, there is nothing wrong with being exclusive to one person. Exclusiveness is a choice. Don't fool yourself. The subject of exclusiveness should not be mixed in with the subject of seduction.
As for the poster... I know you want to be exclusive to her. That's fine. You can be exclusive to her if you choose to be. But remember, she doesn't have to remain exclusive until she decides that is what she wants. So, you'll have to cope with possible jealousy and feelings of betrayel somehow. The best way to do this is to allow yourself to see other people until she's ready to be exclusive.
WhitePimp
Master Don Juan
It sounds like you're not controlling your emotions very well...you fell in love with her, then fell in love with her cousin?? I know you don't mean love in the true meaning, but you seem to be getting infatuated way too quickly and becoming clingy and desperate. But anyways, tap on..
man, do whatever the FUVK you want that makes YOU feel good. That means if you wanna buy her flowers, do it. If u wanna buy her dinner, do it. No one understands your current situation better than you.
btw 80% of crap on this site is bs. "how many days should i wait before i call her?" "what are some C+F routines" "Do not pay for her dinner or she will lose respect for you"
I mean WTF? all of you sad nerds are getting brain washed by this site. Don't deny the pleasure of LOVE just because your worried about being DJ or some crap. im sure there are guys out there who are not so called DJ's and live a MUCH MUCH happier life than you people
It's so hard to find a woman who you truly want a LTR with, who also has the same attitude towards you. Treasure what you have right now, and dont fuvken worry about the future
:woo:
You keyboard jockeys will never understand
btw 80% of crap on this site is bs. "how many days should i wait before i call her?" "what are some C+F routines" "Do not pay for her dinner or she will lose respect for you"
I mean WTF? all of you sad nerds are getting brain washed by this site. Don't deny the pleasure of LOVE just because your worried about being DJ or some crap. im sure there are guys out there who are not so called DJ's and live a MUCH MUCH happier life than you people
It's so hard to find a woman who you truly want a LTR with, who also has the same attitude towards you. Treasure what you have right now, and dont fuvken worry about the future
:woo:
You keyboard jockeys will never understand
KontrollerX
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You think a 2,000 year old fairy tale written by men is real history?
A historical work of pure fiction most definitely but not fact that we should live our lives by if thats what you're implying.
Do you honestly believe that donkeys can talk, people can fly and a man named Jesus lives up in the sky?
If so buddy be sure to pass that crackpipe. :crackup:
WhitePimp
Master Don Juan
Ozrain, I think a lot of people on this site have been through this exact same situation and ruined it by jumping in too quickly. I know I have. That's why guys are giving advice, because they've made the same mistakes over and over again. Instead of learning from the past and controlling/protecting yourself, many men keep making the same mistakes and coming back with "what did i do wrong?" threads. I'm sure not everyone here is down on love, but love is something that cannot be declared in such a short time...infatuation is only temporary, love can transcend.
SynTheUnscathed
Don Juan
I dont want to get in a pissing match with you, so instead of trading blows, I will have you think about something.
Get a watch. Take apart each part seperately.
Now, throw all the parts to make the watch, in the box. See how many times it takes you before the pieces perfectly fit together to make a working watch.
It would NEVER happen.
Secondly, tell me how those pieces, which formed the watch would be made or created?
Figure that out, and you can figure out evolution.
Which makes more sense? An intelligent creator who actually created the most complex objects on the face of the planet, the human body. Or it all just happen to come together or EVOLVE from goo...where did the GOO come from? How did the ATOM as complex as that is, come to be?
Why do we no longer see evolution? There are so many questions to refute evolution that its ridiculous.
If the Bible isnt real...then why is the most widely read book in the World? Why is it in more languages then any other book in the world. Why have thousands of people lost their lives because of it?
If you are thinking about it honestly, the disbelief in the Bible is only bred to disprove a living God, therefore taking away all accountability for your actions.
But, ignorance is not bliss.
The Truth is Out there.
*cues X-Files music*
Oh, and if you ever want to have an intelligent discussion about this, PM and we can chat on AIM.
KontrollerX
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"I dont want to get in a pissing match with you, so instead of trading blows, I will have you think about something.
Get a watch. Take apart each part seperately.
Now, throw all the parts to make the watch, in the box. See how many times it takes you before the pieces perfectly fit together to make a working watch.
It would NEVER happen.
Secondly, tell me how those pieces, which formed the watch would be made or created?
Figure that out, and you can figure out evolution.
Which makes more sense? An intelligent creator who actually created the most complex objects on the face of the planet, the human body. Or it all just happen to come together or EVOLVE from goo...where did the GOO come from? How did the ATOM as complex as that is, come to be?"
The watchmaker argument has been refuted time and time again.
http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/#watchmaker
Oh and where did your god come from since you assume everything has to have a beginning?
He couldn't of just happened right according to your logic? :crackup:
"Why do we no longer see evolution? There are so many questions to refute evolution that its ridiculous."
http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/#evolution
"If the Bible isnt real...then why is the most widely read book in the World?"
If a billion people believe a lie it is still a lie. If a billion people believe a foolish thing it is still a foolish thing. Take the people who bought into Hitler's lie for example. There were millions of them who believed Hitler and agreed that the Jews should be exterminated because they were somehow bad. Of course the Jews weren't and this was just a bigoted lie but the German people by the millions bought the lie as truth. Didn't make it so.
"Why is it in more languages then any other book in the world. Why have thousands of people lost their lives because of it?"
Simply this...
Christianity is a meme and a very powerful one at that.
http://www.christianitymeme.org/
"If you are thinking about it honestly, the disbelief in the Bible is only bred to disprove a living God, therefore taking away all accountability for your actions.
But, ignorance is not bliss.
The Truth is Out there.
*cues X-Files music*"
There is simply no more reason to believe in your God Yahweh as the one true god than there is to believe in the Islamic God Allah.
Muslims and Christians can both state compelling cases to believe in their god of choice but still it comes down to a matter of faith because neither group can prove their god's claims as anymore true than the other's god.
"Oh, and if you ever want to have an intelligent discussion about this, PM and we can chat on AIM."
Start a debate at this board and if you can convince one of these posters to embrace Christianity through your case for it you've got yourself an AIM debate.
http://www.infidelguy.com/forum-7.html
If not thats cool.
Get a watch. Take apart each part seperately.
Now, throw all the parts to make the watch, in the box. See how many times it takes you before the pieces perfectly fit together to make a working watch.
It would NEVER happen.
Secondly, tell me how those pieces, which formed the watch would be made or created?
Figure that out, and you can figure out evolution.
Which makes more sense? An intelligent creator who actually created the most complex objects on the face of the planet, the human body. Or it all just happen to come together or EVOLVE from goo...where did the GOO come from? How did the ATOM as complex as that is, come to be?"
The watchmaker argument has been refuted time and time again.
http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/#watchmaker
Oh and where did your god come from since you assume everything has to have a beginning?
He couldn't of just happened right according to your logic? :crackup:
"Why do we no longer see evolution? There are so many questions to refute evolution that its ridiculous."
http://www.atheist-community.org/faq/#evolution
"If the Bible isnt real...then why is the most widely read book in the World?"
If a billion people believe a lie it is still a lie. If a billion people believe a foolish thing it is still a foolish thing. Take the people who bought into Hitler's lie for example. There were millions of them who believed Hitler and agreed that the Jews should be exterminated because they were somehow bad. Of course the Jews weren't and this was just a bigoted lie but the German people by the millions bought the lie as truth. Didn't make it so.
"Why is it in more languages then any other book in the world. Why have thousands of people lost their lives because of it?"
Simply this...
Christianity is a meme and a very powerful one at that.
http://www.christianitymeme.org/
"If you are thinking about it honestly, the disbelief in the Bible is only bred to disprove a living God, therefore taking away all accountability for your actions.
But, ignorance is not bliss.
The Truth is Out there.
*cues X-Files music*"
There is simply no more reason to believe in your God Yahweh as the one true god than there is to believe in the Islamic God Allah.
Muslims and Christians can both state compelling cases to believe in their god of choice but still it comes down to a matter of faith because neither group can prove their god's claims as anymore true than the other's god.
"Oh, and if you ever want to have an intelligent discussion about this, PM and we can chat on AIM."
Start a debate at this board and if you can convince one of these posters to embrace Christianity through your case for it you've got yourself an AIM debate.
http://www.infidelguy.com/forum-7.html
If not thats cool.
In2theGame
Master Don Juan
Dude, nothing is wrong with you. The same thing happened to me. I had a sh!t load of girls to mess with, F---k and have 3somes if i wanted to, i was in Don Juan Ultimate mode.. having a girl scheduled for each weekend. Then it happened, i met a girl that i was just going to mess with and thats it.. but man did she blow me away,... She turned out to be someone that i would love to be with in LTR. not many great girls come along man and if you are lucky enough to meet that girl... F-- the don Juan sh!t and go for it because you might have a shot at real happines. She became my girlfriend and i couldnt be happier. Yes it was fun getting with bunches of girls but like i stated before... When you meet a great girl... Dont let it slip by you just because you wanna be "Don Juan".Originally posted by Don Ronny
I met this super sexy HB at the park last week. She was with two little girls playing tag so even though she didn't have a wedding band, I automatically assumed she was the mom. As a rule I don't date single mommys, but what can I say? Her ass was so hot I had a temporary lapse of judgement.
With no invitation whatsoever, I jumped into their game, slapped the HB lightly on the ass and said "Your It!" and started running around, hiding behind the kids. They assumed we knew each other and squealed with laughter. Her look of total shock was hilarious. Haha, I was IN.
Then I did some textbook sh!t, which I normally preach against. I used a TD opener and pulled a Mystery move by chatting up the girls. Totally ignoring the mom, I opened the kids with Powerpuff girls routine, and they loved the fact that I knew the characters names (Okay so I still watch cartoons, shoot me!).
I then made fun of Mommy, how she runs like a girl, how silly her hair looked, etc etc. The whole time they are cracking up and eventually Mommy caved and started laughing herself. The rest of the pick-up was a no-brainer and it came as a relief to discover that the kids were her neices.
I had a meeting to attend, so I had to cut our convo short, got the number and we had dinner the next day all due to my smoothness. Of course she put up the token female resistance and it took me longer than usual, but by midnight I had her speaking foreign languages for my neighbors
Anyway, fast forward to yesterday. We have been pretty much inseparable since our first hookup and the chemistry is off the meter. I feel myself falling into the LTR zone pretty quickly, and with Valentine's Day, I figured it would be a good opportunity to distance myself some, so she doesn't get the wrong idea about my intentions.
Much to my surprise, she brings the topic up first...
"The last few days have been incredible and I would really like to get to know you more. But I just want to make sure you know that there is no rush at all. I just got out of a bad relationship and am not exactly ready to just jump into another, so it's okay if we see other people. I will admit you have me very intrigued right now and no one else comes close. But let's take our time and please, do not get me anything for Valentine's Day. I hate these commercialized holidays where they guilt people into being nice to each other. In my opinion, every day should be Valentine's day and you shouldn't have to say "I love you" with your wallet."
My jaw hit the floor on this one. I was going to suggest that we be able to see other people, but all of a sudden that desire has flown out the window. I have all these messages now on my cell from my FBs, wondering where the hell I am, but I couldn't care less about them. They never say sh!t like this.... what girl does?
This woman has me breaking many DJ rules. Today I bought her a single red rose and she said "I told you not to get me anything for V-Day!" I told her everyday was V-Day, especially whenever she is around. She melted, and somewhere deep inside me, my inner Don was puking.
WTF is wrong with me?
I need to start sarging other girls before I end up in one-itis land... again.
:crazy:
sexysuave
Senior Don Juan
Just a thought about the religion thing. I read a great article long time ago talking about how we humans love to do things to distract our selves from the fact that we're going to die one day and none of this will matter. The article said that too many people turn to money, toys (cars, houses), jewlery, sports, hobbies, and some sort of FAME, that "supposely" means something to actually distract us from the fact that we're all going down the same road. I'm not trying to say there is no God or anything, but I'm sure the Kor'an and the Bible also serve as great "relaxors" or whatever you wanna call 'em. I mean, holly caos would occur if we didn't have these "rules" that we "have" to live by. It is apparent to see how this could benefit the society, people will not get murdered all that easy, women not raped, less diseases, more growth, and also A HOPE for all of us that there is actually something AFTER we go down in the ground and become dust.
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
what? go crawl back into your moms basement
SynTheUnscathed
Don Juan
I find it funny that none of your links actually refute anything I said.
Once again, take the parts that make a watch and throw them in a box, tell me how long it will take to make a complete watch. That is what evolution is. Random chance.
You mean to sit there and tell me, men can make super computers, airplanes, biomimetics, (sp?) and all of these complex devices that MIMIC creation, but creation itself was randomly put together?
The earth is in itself, a LARGE cell, you cant take one thing, you have to take it all. All of it comes into play.
Beauty is a human concept. So I guess when we hear music and it has an emotional impact on us, we just make that up in ourselves. The fact that children who listen to music in the room tend to me more intelligent later on in life, just part of evolution, tell me, what role what that play in survival of the fittest?
What about colors? It has been known for a very long time that colors have a definite effect on our mood and persona. You mean to tell me the beauty of the sunset is something randomly put together...? Act any artist and they will tell you that TECHNICALLY what goes into make a sunset is masterful, and shows a talented artist beyond compare.
Why are you afraid to talk to me? I am speaking to anyone on the board, nor is my goal to get anyone to join my religion. I want to open your mind to truth, Atheism is sad way to live your life. True, you arent accountable to anyone, but that doesnt truly make you happy. Like a child growing up with no discipline, sure you can do what you want. But, secretly you hate your parents for not correcting you because it really shows they don't care.
Knowledge is power. I will be happy to help you come to see it.
-Syn
frivolousz21
Master Don Juan
I didnt read this thead...
but all of you will fall in love at one point.
so whoever wants to argue that everyone cheats..
why bother
you will all hate to think that when u are in love.
but all of you will fall in love at one point.
so whoever wants to argue that everyone cheats..
why bother
you will all hate to think that when u are in love.
SynTheUnscathed
Don Juan
One more thing, Evolution, years ago, was highly viewed in the scientific community, but the more people are learning about the earth, the elements and the humany body...the more scientists realize...whoops, we was wrong. Its funny, my friend who is a BRILLIANT scientist, one of the best, was the exact same way. The biggest part of it is human egotism. The believe that they are the only creative force in the universe. Many scientists want to believe that.
Imagination. How can you explain the desire to create. Not just inventions but tell stories. THere is a gene in my DNA that says, TELL STORIES, how would that benefit me in the survival of the fittest. What purpose would that have in the scheme of Evolution? The fact is, it doesnt, we were made in God's image.
And the Bible is Historical fiction...? What?
So you telling me Moses never existed? The Red Seas never parted? The Flood never happened? THere is MUCH evidence to prove all of this has happened. Jesus never existed, written proof that he has is out there.
Ten Commandments? Thats fake too?
I am sorry man, but it just is not true, be accountable for yourself, take action and learn the truth. I would love to help you man. Heck I will friendly debate with you aswell, but lets take this to AIM, I dont want to start a heated discussion where people are reasoning with their hearts and not their minds.
Broham
Senior Don Juan
Alright, I'm shocked. I can't believe you tapped a woman on the ass that didn't even know you, and then proceded to play with her kids and ignore her. I think you just won the lottery here, because I'd be willing to bet 999 times out of 1000 that the woman would either:
a. Think you were a pervert and proceed to take her children and flee. Possiblity for sexual assault charges.
b. Think you were a child molestor and proceed to take her children and flee. Possibility for police investigation.
c. Think you were a case of mild retardation with bad judgement and proceed to take her children and flee.
You probably have good game, and I'm not personally attacking your style. I'm just saying this is not a normal pick-up situation and I think most women would've given you the complete opposite reaction.
Hell, I was singing karaoke the other night and I slapped this girl's ass on stage. All in good fun right? She gave me a look of complete disgust and after my performance some guy told me to apologize to her.
a. Think you were a pervert and proceed to take her children and flee. Possiblity for sexual assault charges.
b. Think you were a child molestor and proceed to take her children and flee. Possibility for police investigation.
c. Think you were a case of mild retardation with bad judgement and proceed to take her children and flee.
You probably have good game, and I'm not personally attacking your style. I'm just saying this is not a normal pick-up situation and I think most women would've given you the complete opposite reaction.
Hell, I was singing karaoke the other night and I slapped this girl's ass on stage. All in good fun right? She gave me a look of complete disgust and after my performance some guy told me to apologize to her.
sexysuave
Senior Don Juan
Hey Syntheunschated
You have some nice points and all, I'd like to know what your thoughts are on my post here a little earlier on this same page. Read it and respond please if you got some time. thanx bud.
You have some nice points and all, I'd like to know what your thoughts are on my post here a little earlier on this same page. Read it and respond please if you got some time. thanx bud.
KontrollerX
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"I find it funny that none of your links actually refute anything I said."
The links refute everything you said but as a typical Christian you just deny everything.
"Once again, take the parts that make a watch and throw them in a box, tell me how long it will take to make a complete watch. That is what evolution is. Random chance.
You mean to sit there and tell me, men can make super computers, airplanes, biomimetics, (sp?) and all of these complex devices that MIMIC creation, but creation itself was randomly put together?
The earth is in itself, a LARGE cell, you cant take one thing, you have to take it all. All of it comes into play."
You assume that everything needs a creator. If that is the case then who created your god?
"Beauty is a human concept. So I guess when we hear music and it has an emotional impact on us, we just make that up in ourselves. The fact that children who listen to music in the room tend to me more intelligent later on in life, just part of evolution, tell me, what role what that play in survival of the fittest?"
There was a study done on children listening to classical music at a young age and it was concluded that it does not increase intelligence as previously thought. Saw this on Yahoo News a few months back.
"What about colors? It has been known for a very long time that colors have a definite effect on our mood and persona. You mean to tell me the beauty of the sunset is something randomly put together...? Act any artist and they will tell you that TECHNICALLY what goes into make a sunset is masterful, and shows a talented artist beyond compare."
I never read a single artist say anything like that. The most I've read any of them say is they are inspired by certain locales or things in the world. Rarely do they ever mention anything that inspires them being some god's handy work unless of course they belong to your religion or someother religion. The majority of them speak on beauty not on any mysterious master artist causing the beauty ie your god or others.
"Why are you afraid to talk to me?"
I'm not afraid to talk to you I just don't care to have a giant debate with someone whose idea of intelligent thought is "so and so number of people believe a certain thing so that automatically must mean its true" seriously dude this line of shoddy reasoning came from your mind and I know I'd only be seeing more of that and wasting my time to engage you in an AIM debate.
To reverse your question...why are you so afraid of posting your views on the infidelguy.com community board? If you believe your religion to be the truth and have good reasons for believing so you can possibly save more souls from hell. See but I know the real reason you won't go there. Its because they will tear your arguments apart using logic and facts concepts you seem to not be able to grasp.
"I am speaking to anyone on the board, nor is my goal to get anyone to join my religion. I want to open your mind to truth, Atheism is sad way to live your life."
This last line here shows me how very close minded you are and opinionated. Nothing wrong with being opinionated of course but you don't debate with opinions but with facts and logic. Its an absolute 100% waste of time to try and have a serious discussion with someone who 1. posts there religious views to people on this forum as though they are truth rather than stating you yourself believe so and so and think it might help the original poster and here is why etc. 2. Makes ridiculous opinionated statements as though they are facts such as "Atheism is a sad way to live your life." and 3. "Christianity must be true because so many millions of people believe it.
Well again millions of people believe in Islam and other religions. By your reasoning those religions have just as much a chance of being true as yours since oh so many people believe in them.
Also you saying you want to open my mind to the truth? Give me a break. This is just another showing of how open minded you are ie not at all. You already assume you have the truth.
You also assume that I am an atheist.
Never said I was I just indicated I do not believe in your god or any other established religions gods. Your god is no different to me than Zeus, Allah or Bob the rain god. All just make believe by people who need those characters to feel secure that someone is watching over them and everything will be alright when they die ie they get to go to some kind of afterlife if only they worship one of these gods during their earthly existance.
"True, you arent accountable to anyone, but that doesnt truly make you happy. Like a child growing up with no discipline, sure you can do what you want. But, secretly you hate your parents for not correcting you because it really shows they don't care.
Knowledge is power. I will be happy to help you come to see it."
You also assume what does and does not make people happy. Open minded? You?? Oh man I'd be dying of laughter right now if I wasn't about to fall asleep.
"One more thing, Evolution, years ago, was highly viewed in the scientific community, but the more people are learning about the earth, the elements and the humany body...the more scientists realize...whoops, we was wrong. Its funny, my friend who is a BRILLIANT scientist, one of the best, was the exact same way. The biggest part of it is human egotism. The believe that they are the only creative force in the universe. Many scientists want to believe that."
Is he a creation scientist by any chance?
"Imagination. How can you explain the desire to create. Not just inventions but tell stories. THere is a gene in my DNA that says, TELL STORIES, how would that benefit me in the survival of the fittest. What purpose would that have in the scheme of Evolution?."
If such a gene exists it makes perfect sense in survival of the fittest. Stories can contain information about technology and medicine discoveries and creation. Things that help the human race survive and grow.
"The fact is, it doesnt, we were made in God's image"
Which god's image? There are so many gods from Ra the sun god to Bob the rain god to Loki. Which god are we talking about here? Humans have invented so many...
Nah, man its more like gods were created in the image of men.
"And the Bible is Historical fiction...? What?
So you telling me Moses never existed? The Red Seas never parted? The Flood never happened? THere is MUCH evidence to prove all of this has happened. Jesus never existed, written proof that he has is out there."
Many religions have their flood stories and whether these biblical characters existed or not is irrelevant. You nor any Christian can prove these character's claims as being anymore true than any other religion's deities and doctrines well that is unless tomorrow you go to some hospital somewhere and heal everyone in it by the divine power of Jesus. After all he did say "Anything you ask of me in my name I will do it." So by all means go to a hospital and ask Jesus to heal everyone in it then come back here and I will admit your god is the one true god because a claim he made came true by your action through faith. I'll be waiting...
Oh and also you might want to look up Horus and Mithra to see what the Jesus myth ripped off from.
"Ten Commandments? Thats fake too?"
No, its a very real piece of fiction written by men thousands of years ago but its just a partial ripoff of Hammurabi's code and teachings by Seneca the Younger with some worthless garbage about donkeys thrown into the mix.
"I am sorry man, but it just is not true, be accountable for yourself, take action and learn the truth."
I have. That is why I am no longer a Christian.
If you are interested in following me along this path I'd suggest after you go to the infidelguy.com site to read the entire book of Leviticus and see if you'd like to live your life like a true Christian should by its teachings.
"I would love to help you man."
Help yourself first by going to infidelguy.com and doing what I asked.
The links refute everything you said but as a typical Christian you just deny everything.
"Once again, take the parts that make a watch and throw them in a box, tell me how long it will take to make a complete watch. That is what evolution is. Random chance.
You mean to sit there and tell me, men can make super computers, airplanes, biomimetics, (sp?) and all of these complex devices that MIMIC creation, but creation itself was randomly put together?
The earth is in itself, a LARGE cell, you cant take one thing, you have to take it all. All of it comes into play."
You assume that everything needs a creator. If that is the case then who created your god?
"Beauty is a human concept. So I guess when we hear music and it has an emotional impact on us, we just make that up in ourselves. The fact that children who listen to music in the room tend to me more intelligent later on in life, just part of evolution, tell me, what role what that play in survival of the fittest?"
There was a study done on children listening to classical music at a young age and it was concluded that it does not increase intelligence as previously thought. Saw this on Yahoo News a few months back.
"What about colors? It has been known for a very long time that colors have a definite effect on our mood and persona. You mean to tell me the beauty of the sunset is something randomly put together...? Act any artist and they will tell you that TECHNICALLY what goes into make a sunset is masterful, and shows a talented artist beyond compare."
I never read a single artist say anything like that. The most I've read any of them say is they are inspired by certain locales or things in the world. Rarely do they ever mention anything that inspires them being some god's handy work unless of course they belong to your religion or someother religion. The majority of them speak on beauty not on any mysterious master artist causing the beauty ie your god or others.
"Why are you afraid to talk to me?"
I'm not afraid to talk to you I just don't care to have a giant debate with someone whose idea of intelligent thought is "so and so number of people believe a certain thing so that automatically must mean its true" seriously dude this line of shoddy reasoning came from your mind and I know I'd only be seeing more of that and wasting my time to engage you in an AIM debate.
To reverse your question...why are you so afraid of posting your views on the infidelguy.com community board? If you believe your religion to be the truth and have good reasons for believing so you can possibly save more souls from hell. See but I know the real reason you won't go there. Its because they will tear your arguments apart using logic and facts concepts you seem to not be able to grasp.
"I am speaking to anyone on the board, nor is my goal to get anyone to join my religion. I want to open your mind to truth, Atheism is sad way to live your life."
This last line here shows me how very close minded you are and opinionated. Nothing wrong with being opinionated of course but you don't debate with opinions but with facts and logic. Its an absolute 100% waste of time to try and have a serious discussion with someone who 1. posts there religious views to people on this forum as though they are truth rather than stating you yourself believe so and so and think it might help the original poster and here is why etc. 2. Makes ridiculous opinionated statements as though they are facts such as "Atheism is a sad way to live your life." and 3. "Christianity must be true because so many millions of people believe it.
Well again millions of people believe in Islam and other religions. By your reasoning those religions have just as much a chance of being true as yours since oh so many people believe in them.
Also you saying you want to open my mind to the truth? Give me a break. This is just another showing of how open minded you are ie not at all. You already assume you have the truth.
You also assume that I am an atheist.
Never said I was I just indicated I do not believe in your god or any other established religions gods. Your god is no different to me than Zeus, Allah or Bob the rain god. All just make believe by people who need those characters to feel secure that someone is watching over them and everything will be alright when they die ie they get to go to some kind of afterlife if only they worship one of these gods during their earthly existance.
"True, you arent accountable to anyone, but that doesnt truly make you happy. Like a child growing up with no discipline, sure you can do what you want. But, secretly you hate your parents for not correcting you because it really shows they don't care.
Knowledge is power. I will be happy to help you come to see it."
You also assume what does and does not make people happy. Open minded? You?? Oh man I'd be dying of laughter right now if I wasn't about to fall asleep.
"One more thing, Evolution, years ago, was highly viewed in the scientific community, but the more people are learning about the earth, the elements and the humany body...the more scientists realize...whoops, we was wrong. Its funny, my friend who is a BRILLIANT scientist, one of the best, was the exact same way. The biggest part of it is human egotism. The believe that they are the only creative force in the universe. Many scientists want to believe that."
Is he a creation scientist by any chance?
"Imagination. How can you explain the desire to create. Not just inventions but tell stories. THere is a gene in my DNA that says, TELL STORIES, how would that benefit me in the survival of the fittest. What purpose would that have in the scheme of Evolution?."
If such a gene exists it makes perfect sense in survival of the fittest. Stories can contain information about technology and medicine discoveries and creation. Things that help the human race survive and grow.
"The fact is, it doesnt, we were made in God's image"
Which god's image? There are so many gods from Ra the sun god to Bob the rain god to Loki. Which god are we talking about here? Humans have invented so many...
Nah, man its more like gods were created in the image of men.
"And the Bible is Historical fiction...? What?
So you telling me Moses never existed? The Red Seas never parted? The Flood never happened? THere is MUCH evidence to prove all of this has happened. Jesus never existed, written proof that he has is out there."
Many religions have their flood stories and whether these biblical characters existed or not is irrelevant. You nor any Christian can prove these character's claims as being anymore true than any other religion's deities and doctrines well that is unless tomorrow you go to some hospital somewhere and heal everyone in it by the divine power of Jesus. After all he did say "Anything you ask of me in my name I will do it." So by all means go to a hospital and ask Jesus to heal everyone in it then come back here and I will admit your god is the one true god because a claim he made came true by your action through faith. I'll be waiting...
Oh and also you might want to look up Horus and Mithra to see what the Jesus myth ripped off from.
"Ten Commandments? Thats fake too?"
No, its a very real piece of fiction written by men thousands of years ago but its just a partial ripoff of Hammurabi's code and teachings by Seneca the Younger with some worthless garbage about donkeys thrown into the mix.
"I am sorry man, but it just is not true, be accountable for yourself, take action and learn the truth."
I have. That is why I am no longer a Christian.
If you are interested in following me along this path I'd suggest after you go to the infidelguy.com site to read the entire book of Leviticus and see if you'd like to live your life like a true Christian should by its teachings.
"I would love to help you man."
Help yourself first by going to infidelguy.com and doing what I asked.
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