There is a point to both sides of this argument.
I have now firmly come to the awakening that women are ultimately dishonest creatures. The vast majority anyway. The fact of the matter is, they do not realise it. That's not to say I dislike them by any means, quite the contrary. I just have to be honest with what I and many of you seem to experience. They basically just say/do something one minute and then have completely forgotten about it half an hour-a few weeks later.
Take this chick I've been seeing as a perfect example. I saw her for a couple of weekends in a row recently. She told me about how guys treated her like sh!t and how she had low self esteem. Fine. She seemed pretty normal all the same.
Roll on two weeks later; she's brought up how I must be getting bored with her by now bahblahblah, like 5-6 times over the course of the weekend. I ignored. She then proceeded to continue with this course in texting during the following week. Now, I have had my share of needy women,believe me. More than most probably. But you know where it's got me? Exactly nowhere.
So apparently this chick was 'only joking'. I tell her, it's not a joke when it's 5-6times, after I take you out for a half-ton meal and introduce you to a couple of close friends (and what she's told me about her insecurities). She continues with the facade of 'It was only a joke'. I still don't buy it. To this day. I'm moving on. She chooses to re-frame her bs because she realises she's losing the manipulation game pretty badly; I don't buy it. This happens to me regularly with women of interest and women of non-interest. ALL THE TIME.
Basically I'm cutting her of before she does get heart-broken again. Cutting my losses. Just like BITG and Guru do, only in a slightly watered-down format. I guess my lifestyle is serial monogamy, opposed to pure pump'n'dump.
But as soon as a chick shows the first sign of manipulation, I back right off. And they have to work pretty fckn hard to back-pedal to be perfectly honest.
Guru and BITG simply demonstrate different effects to the same cause. Purely about avoiding drama these days.