FR: DJ BootCamp Thread

[Dark Haired Alpha]

Alright, this is going to be my DJ BootCamp thread. I know, I know, I have joined a long time ago, but I have taken the advice "be happy even without a girlfriend" too seriously and I was also too busy getting rich (don't laugh fvckers, I was successful ;-)).

Too bad it took me so long to realize that the girls really aren't going to come to my door one day (not even the ugliest ones and definitely not the high value ones - and not even if you are rolling in cash).

The reason I am posting this thread before doing the first exercise is to promise that if I don't complete the first exercise tommorow and/or don't make a post about it the day after tommorow, I will ask the mods to change my nickname to Mr. Perpetual Masturbator (I'm being absolutely serious here ;-)).

Of course if you want to start a BootCamp with me this week and share your experiences, just make an "I'm in" post including your new nickname that will be used in case you don't do any of the exercises - once you're in, there's no way out.

Anyone with balls here?

 

[elmnick]

I'm in! (he says, foolishly)

Oh no oh no, what am I saying!,
but I think I may put my experience on my own thread.

 

[Dark Haired Alpha]

Yea I'll jump in. I'll take the name pu$$y. haha.

Great! Anyone else?

 

[archangel]

Good timing I was just looking for how to start a thread saying pretty much the same thing. I'm in too. If I drop this, you can call me f*ckup.

I haven't used this forum in quite some time, is there any good way to advertise this so we can get other people in on this? We can't possibly be the only dudes who are wanting to do this. Who runs this forum, and would they be willing to put up some kinda "advertisement" to get people to join this thread? Obviously there's the title, but threads get easily buried.

Ok Dark haired Alpha, you started this thread, when do we want the official start date to be? And are we doing daily posts? Or just whenever we feel like it? Why don't we set some groundrules like the original DJBC so that everyone is on the same page?

I think it'll be a helluva lot easier to finish this program with a support structure like this, rather than trying to go at this alone.

 

[Dark Haired Alpha]

Alright I was doing the first exercise today, but OK, let's officially start on Monday, 25th. It's going to run on the time of vacations so one can skip a week and do the lesson next week if he tells us at least a week before. I will make a post about the first exercise later today so that you can comment on it. And yeah post whenever you like, but as soon as possible ;-)

 

[Dark Haired Alpha]

OK we're officially starting on 25th of June, but let me share my experiences with first & second exercise of the boot camp.

Well before I went to the field, both exercises seemed extremely easy... "OK, no problem, I will just go out and stare at people for 2 hours and then I will spend another 2 hours doing the same and saying Hi to just anyone". I couldn't be more wrong. One of the first week's exercise turned out to be very hard...

Performing the EC exercise was not that much of a problem, it was rather boring 2 hours, I don't have problem with that and there's not much to talk about except that I couldn't help interrupting the EC at first, because that's what I was used to, but then it was all OK, so I can keep my nickname (at least for now ;-))

But the second exercise has been a real pain in the ass and I have yet to figure out how exactly I am supposed to get people to reply to my hi's. I was walking around the city like an idiot for 1 hour just to say 4 uncomfortable hi's, none of them got any reply. Besides I felt really uncomfortable saying Hi to strangers (which is not a bad thing though), the biggest problem is that 99% of people either don't give me the eye contact or break it before I say Hi, so it's a real problem to find someone to actually say Hi to naturally. Any help highly appreciated, thank you.

 

[archangel]

Sounds good gents. So the guys on the other 2 forums have yet to respond to me about my idea. Maybe you guys will have better luck?
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125020&highlight=bootcamp
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=125470&highlight=bootcamp

I just think having 1 consolidated bootcamp thread makes more sense, and would be easier for anyone to possibly leave comments and whatnot.

 

[archangel]

Field report: BTW I already started last night walking around, but I think I started too late for a Monday night and no one was around.

I still got a good 20 EC's in though. I am only counting ones where I hold eye contact for a second longer than they do, as mentioned in the article.

Something I think I figured out while reading DJBC recently has been that I have always been trying to make eye contact with people starting too close. IE I have always started looking at people fro: maybe 5 feet away, but I think I should be starting way sooner than that. I tested it last night, and I was right, people are way more likely to look me in the eye that way. I even had some drunk chick yell at me from across the street.

I had the same problem with the 2nd part. I think I got out like 2 Hi's so I am not bothering to even count them. I felt kind of lame not being able to say hi actually. I think it may just be easier to finish my 50, then focus solely on the 2nd exercise anyways.

Ok time to hit the field for the day. I think my solution to the HI's is that if it's going slow like it was for both of us yesterday, I am just going to start yelling HI at people whether I get EC or not. I don't want to walk around for hours at a time and awkwardly say hi to a couple people. What do you guys think?

 

[Lust]

Hi's?

"Hi! You look familiar, do i know you from somewhere?"

That bs line will even work, c'mon guys, get creative.

How about, walking down the street saying "Good morning" to your neighbors? I do it all the way down until the bus stop every morning and everyone smiles back and replies.

It's not hard. I think you guys can do better.

Also, if you are looking to reduce approach anxiety (Which i suggest you do, if you are having trouble saying "Hi" to randoms), then maybe try some blowout sets.

Go out with a good mate, and go into a set and TRY to get blown out. Try to get rejected and crushed. Eg.

"Hey, do you like, want to fist my assh*le?"

"Hey, can you like, just tell me to fvck off? C'mon, LOUDER!"

Also, another good exercise, is to go out and small talk with 3 different people. Only one can be someone you know.

It's awesome, and you can add the EC bit in too, you can even make it so you have to note the eye colour of everyone you speak to.

 

[badboy2007]

yo guys im in the more heads im doing this with the better. Im actually a confident and social guy who gets a bit of girl attention, however i am pretty alien afraid of being social with girls. Im afraid of looking them in the eye and talking to them unless im pretty drunk. The last week and a half i've done the boot camp to the word however i dont feel ive progressed in terms of confidence with girls. So im looking to spend a few weeks doing these exercises on girls, and reading up more Pook and DJ Bible posts while you boys catch up.

 

[On Point]

I'm in

I just started exercise 1 today at the grocery store. Right off the bat I saw a HB8 and as soon as I made eye contact she smiled at me. Off to a good start I kept at it and quickly discovered making eye contact with guys or young people was pretty uncomfortable so I decided to stick to the women unless someone was already looking at me.

Most people definately avoid eye contact like the plague. I only got a couple today but I'll keep at it.

 

[badboy2007]

I have no problem making eye contact with guys- infact im pretty comfortable with it. Its the women i find intimidating. Im still choking when it comes to slightly nice girls but i did get a few eye contacts and hi's under my belt. Slowly but surely i will get used to mysterious women and eye contact.

Last week was possibly one of the worst weeks in the history of boot camp. I struck up 0 conversations. No girls, no chat, no change. And i had plenty of opportunities. However, i dont think im giving myself a chance. My routine is driving to work (cafe) , letting my boss do all the talking and take center stage while i cook in the background, and coming back home eating and sleeping. I cant be bothered to go to parties and pubs because a) i don't really like drinking and b) im trying to get fit for the coming football season so drinks and kebabs are no-nos.

Its a bad routine. Im looking to get a new job where i can start fresh and be more independent. Im also looking to take up karate/wing-chun this week or next, and i am looking to join a semi-busy gym to continue my fitness program rather then run on the streets alone and lonely. I might also show my face in the bar this week because thats where i usually meet loads of people. I've got two interviews at university in the next 2 days so hopefully some progress can be made I NEED TO GET OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE.

Finally, i've decided that i am not really treating myself like the Great Catch. I wear worn out jeans, the same worn out black shirt of black jumper, and have had the same jacket for almost 5 years. I dont mind going out of the house if i have a beard cos i couldnt be bothered to shave, and have not replaced my lost watch for almost 6 months. My trainers and boots are always dirty and i never really care if i am wearing deodrent or perfume. I only realised today how bad i am. Although this self help book tells me to work more on my inside rather then base my happiness on my appearence and what other people think, i cannot go on the way i am and pretend to be a great catch. This has got to be a lifestyle change, not just something i show up in public.

By the way, i will post some of this self-help stuff up because i think many people will be surprised how much it relates to don juan. Unless these sort of stuff is already mainstream on these forums?

What does HB stand for?

 

[On Point]

I just had an idea today, maybe it will help you too. I jog to stay in shape. Instead of doing it at the track I'm going to go to the waterfront downtown, where THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE. That way I'm doing something I was going to do anyway, but I can work on saying hi and EC and all that.

Since it sounds like you're active maybe you can do something similar.

Last week was possibly one of the worst weeks in the history of boot camp. I struck up 0 conversations. No girls, no chat, no change. And i had plenty of opportunities. However, i dont think im giving myself a chance. My routine is driving to work (cafe) , letting my boss do all the talking and take center stage while i cook in the background, and coming back home eating and sleeping. I cant be bothered to go to parties and pubs because a) i don't really like drinking and b) im trying to get fit for the coming football season so drinks and kebabs are no-nos.