FR:Chic gave me a BJ, started crying.

[Rollo Tomassi]

anyone can rip some chick's pictures off from Myspace or Facebook and say they are so and so.

Here's a picture of me.

STR8UP can vouch,..

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Oh bullsh!t.

I've seen the supposed pics of iqqi as well but it means absolutely nothing as anyone can rip some chick's pictures off from Myspace or Facebook and say they are so and so.

If he/she wants to prove they are a female there's a little internet site called youtube (you might of heard of it!) and he/she can start uploading video rants there anytime showing his/her face on camera and saying his/her username.

The rants/diatribes what have you being similar to the iqqi posts along with iqqi indicating iqqi is who they are will be proof.

As it stands now all we have are a few inconclusive pics that anyone could say were theirs.

Wow. Anyone can rip anyone's pic and manipulate it. (as evident by Rollo putting his face on John Cena's body. I dunno why he did that. Rollo's a friggin stud, man.) We have a case of several people here meeting Iqqi and hanging out with here in person. Their description of her matches with what I've seen.

Also, are you dismissing the fact that Iqqi might have some stalkers here who would take her pics and plaster them everywhere even though she'd like her presence known only to a select few that she can trust? I'm sure she'd be happy to tell you all the sh!t she's been though with certain people here and at NLG .

She's a girl, first of all, so of course she's going to get a lot of attention. That's just the nature of sh!t. Second of all, when a few people brag about seeing Iqqi others tend to get a little jealous, as they think they're not in the exclusive Iqqi picture club. (Pics or GTFO - as if seriously a pic show would make them feel better about their deprived situation). She's privately showed her pics to people who swore they wouldn't post them anywhere else and guess what? They get spurned like little teenage girls and plaster them anywhere people will get a chance to see.

Personally, going where I am in my career right now I wouldn't want everyone here to know what I look like anymore. (only a select few) It could be used against me ANYTIME anyone says "y'know what? I don't like that a$$hole anymore! Pic time!". That absolutely sucks, brah.

Sometimes you can't always put yourself out there to strangers. Even worse, you can't always put yourself out there to people who DON'T like you.

You got half the forum vilifying her for most of what she says. There are people here who just hates her guts. Not saying the hate isn't justified or isn't. Just saying that it's not a welcoming place for her to just post a pic. Jesus, I wouldn't want to put my pic up either.

 

[STR8UP]

There are a lot of women that DO have their s#it together, you just have to dig a little for them. Not all men cheat, so then it follows that not all women cheat.

You're right. I think I meet about one per year. 95% of the time she is married.

Wonder why that is?

A rare commodity doesn't stay on the market for long......

Women are not a separate, subhuman species.

No, they are absolutely human, which makes them susceptible to all sorts of natural and cultural influences (or lack thereof) that have made the majority of them undateable. This "human factor" is something that the "quality hunters" and moralists don't like to hear or care to acknowledge. At minimum they will downplay the role of nature and assume that societal conditioning is more effective than it really is.

 

[guru1000]

No, they are absolutely human, which makes them susceptible to all sorts of natural and cultural influences (or lack thereof) that have made the majority of them undateable.

This "human factor" is something that the "quality hunters" and moralists don't like to hear or care to acknowledge. At minimum they will downplay the role of nature and assume that societal conditioning is more effective than it really is.

If every girl surrenders to the "Human Factor", then Quality cannot exist. Yet you acknowledge quality in this statement.

You're right. I think I meet about one per year. 95% of the time she is married.

Wonder why that is?

A rare commodity doesn't stay on the market for long.....

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Your conclusion therefore is Quality does exist but is rare. However, it can only exist if certain choices against Nature and societal conditioning are made. In this case, once again convictions trump nature in the select few women you mention. Just as it does for the 8 meal a day bodybuilder or the 16 hour work day attorney. True ambition or traditional upbringing are rare indeed.

But for a guy who walks the walk and talks the talk, these kind of women should be landing in your lap, RIGHT? After all, the show of PRESTIGE and GRANDEUR wins the race, RIGHT?

Not at all my friend. These women stay loyal to those who know the difference. And when you accept bad behavior and tolerate disrespect as a result of "Nature", you will continue to justify why all women are the same.

On the other side of the coin is the man who filters through the garbage because he KNOWS the difference. He sieves through the numbers of Quantity to reach Quality. Instead of reading about it, he sees it. Quality is not the illusion assumed by those men with scarce resources who refuse to NEXT or filter.

At the end of the day, you will always be the

I think I meet about one per year. 95% of the time she is married.

guy. But for a guy who puts blood, sweat and tears into his business, that is quite surprising.

 

[iqqi]

One thing I have noticed, without fail.

Frustrated men are the ones who think all women are evil slvtty wh0re b!tches.

Men who are happy with themselves tend to also view the opposite sex with love and appreciation. They also tend to find that it isn't such dire odds as 5 out 100 women being worthy of a quality status.

Just another observation of real men in the real world.

 

[Warrior74]

Bro...you sure she wasn't Crying after seeing the size of your Johnson?



LOL...sorry dude...i couldn't resist!

:yes:

I'm surprised it took someone this long to make a joke! lol.

 

[STR8UP]

One thing I have noticed, without fail.

Frustrated men are the ones who think all women are evil slvtty wh0re b!tches.

Men who are happy with themselves tend to also view the opposite sex with love and appreciation.

This is the typical female retort to any man who dares utter a word that might be construed as "negative" toward women.

If every girl surrenders to the "Human Factor", then Quality cannot exist. Yet you acknowledge quality in this statement.

You are still stuck on the idea that I think in the same absolute terms that you do.

The reason why I do not acknowledge "quality" is because I do not live in a black and white universe. You speak as if your "qualifying procedures" give you a glimpse into the future.

I've said it before and I will say it again- you cannot possibly judge "quality" over the course of a year or sometimes even ten. Just like the word "love", it is a relative and even somewhat abstract concept that gets misjudged and misused on a consistent basis and it gets guys into trouble 9 out of 10 times.

Your conclusion therefore is Quality does exist but is rare. However, it can only exist if certain choices against Nature and societal conditioning are made. In this case, once again convictions trump nature in the select few women you mention. Just as it does for the 8 meal a day bodybuilder or the 16 hour work day attorney. True ambition or traditional upbringing are rare indeed.

Ambition and the upholding of convictions are masculine traits, as evidenced by the very examples you chose to give.

At the end of the day, you will always be the

"I think I meet about one per year. 95% of the time she is married."

guy. But for a guy who puts blood, sweat and tears into his business, that is quite surprising.

You are essentially agreeing with me. And what you propose is that a man spend hour upon hour of his precious time shuffling through piles of garbage to find your "treasure".

That's all good and fine if you life's passion is to hand the majority of the leverage you have over to a woman in the form of a marriage contract, but I for one have no desire to waste away my life on what is ultimately a risky gamble where the stakes are high and the true payoff is non-existent.

 

[ketostix]

One thing I have noticed, without fail.

Frustrated men are the ones who think all women are evil slvtty wh0re b!tches.

Men who are happy with themselves tend to also view the opposite sex with love and appreciation. They also tend to find that it isn't such dire odds as 5 out 100 women being worthy of a quality status.

Just another observation of real men in the real world.

That's not true at all iqqi. I know a lot of guys who think women are angels and most of them have no women. I know this one guy like that who's decent looking and fairly succesfu,l and he's 34 and admit he's a virgin. On the other hand, I know a lot of guys who think all women are sluts, b!tches, and untrustworthy and they have plenty of women and treat them that way too.

 

[Warrior74]

I usually don't wade into the iqqi fights(and I hate to see it pollute my thread) , but...here I go.

Originally Posted by iqqi
One thing I have noticed, without fail.

Frustrated men are the ones who think all women are evil slvtty wh0re b!tches.

Men who are happy with themselves tend to also view the opposite sex with love and appreciation.

I think you fail to understand this Iqqi, the man who is happy with himself and knows the good and bad with women can enjoy and appreaciate and even love a woman without losing himself. That last part is key.

A woman should be like a fond pet. You might be sad when your dog dies, but you get another dog. You don't hate all dogs for dying and call them worthless dying peices of shiit. There are more dogs out there. The person who is happy with himself doesn't need a woman, he wants one but can take it or leave it and knows he can get another one.

That's a position that women detest overtly and are drawn to covertly. It's a man's job to conquer the world, a woman's to conquer a man. Frustrated men are easily conquered and discarded, alphas are damn near impossible to conquer...most happy relationships are ones where it takes a woman years if not decades to claim victory. SHe has to have something to work for.

I had a friend who was 24 dating a 40 year old real estate mogul around here. Me and her used to be FBs. She left him when she realised that he would never bow to her will, then she was crushed when he started dating a 22 year old a few weeks later. Her current guy is more around her age but she has complete control and now she's growing tired of that. She needs a strong challenge but the chance of winning and losing.

 

[steviecruiser]

I usually don't wade into the iqqi fights(and I hate to see it pollute my thread) , but...here I go.



I think you fail to understand this Iqqi, the man who is happy with himself and knows the good and bad with women can enjoy and appreaciate and even love a woman without losing himself. That last part is key.

A woman should be like a fond pet. You might be sad when your dog dies, but you get another dog. You don't hate all dogs for dying and call them worthless dying peices of shiit. There are more dogs out there. The person who is happy with himself doesn't need a woman, he wants one but can take it or leave it and knows he can get another one.

That's a position that women detest overtly and are drawn to covertly. It's a man's job to conquer the world, a woman's to conquer a man. Frustrated men are easily conquered and discarded, alphas are damn near impossible to conquer...most happy relationships are ones where it takes a woman years if not decades to claim victory. SHe has to have something to work for.

I had a friend who was 24 dating a 40 year old real estate mogul around here. Me and her used to be FBs. She left him when she realised that he would never bow to her will, then she was crushed when he started dating a 22 year old a few weeks later. Her current guy is more around her age but she has complete control and now she's growing tired of that. She needs a strong challenge but the chance of winning and losing.

100% True

From what I've seen on this site my view is that Iqqi is either a man, tranny, or 1 fuuuuugggly excuse for a female

I'd F-Close this girl once before discarding her though. Just do it somewhere safe.

Few things in life make you feel more like a man than fvcking another man's pvssy

 

[mrRuckus]

A woman should be like a fond pet. You might be sad when your dog dies, but you get another dog.

I don't see how it can be viewed any other way. Even people married 20+ years are getting divorced. It's all temporary. It just comes down to juggling how long each women lasts with you.

Even if i got married today to a great lady i'd probably want rid of her when i was like 45. Why would i want a 42 year old when i could get a younger one then who still has her spunk and looks? (hitting the gym doesn't keep boobs and faces from drooping)

 

[speed dawg]

Don't include me in your retard conclusions of "all women".

On a personal note: I have never cheated on anyone, not even close, and I am sure I never will. I have been cheated on by someone I was not even attracted to anymore, and I did not "retaliate", I left. It is a choice to cheat, and my personal values of MYSELF do not allow nor desire that choice.

On a general note: Saying all women do anything is akin to saying all men do anything, and neither is true. I have a gay male friend named Jay, who says all men will let him suck their c0cks and a lot more, if the right buttons are pushed. And that is a true story, and he has had some stuff to back up that claim.

All "all" statements except this one I am making right now, are bullsh!t.

When spouting bullsh!t, please leave me out of it. Thanks.

For all men feeling like you are being drawn to the dark side by all these ridiculous "all women" statements, read over and over what I wrote above. I have never cheated in any form, and find the entire charade degrading to myself, let alone the relationship I have chosen to be in.

Well fvck me running, I actually agree with Iqqi.

Man, I agree with the general tone of this site but some of you are straight WARPED. I mean, sh1t, you've broken out of the "matrix" as we call it, then you did a 90 degree and started seeing things in reality, THEN did another 90 degree turn and got into the opposite of the matrix, albeit just as bad of a place. Now you hate ALL women and look at them like friggin' animals. Stupidity is what I like to call it.

 

[iqqi]

Even if i got married today to a great lady i'd probably want rid of her when i was like 45. Why would i want a 42 year old when i could get a younger one then who still has her spunk and looks? (hitting the gym doesn't keep boobs and faces from drooping)

And this is the voice of mankind, yet you are saying women are the vile ones.

You do not marry for temporary lustful or fun reasons.

You marry to build a life, a bond, trust, and LOVE. If you are lucky and smart, and picked the right one, then the result of all that you built OUTWEIGHS "trading it in for a newer, funner model." You wouldn't even look at the same way you'd look at a friggin car. Because it would be your life, your source of happiness, history, and hope. It would be a part of your soul, your heart, and all that blah blah blah that most of you are too depressed to believe in or strive for anymore, or are capable of building anyways at this point in your bleak, soulless mindstates.

Wake up! The matrix has you!

There IS true happiness and a higher level to be found with the "fairer sex". Most look in the wrong place. Here's a clue: The search starts with the man in the mirror!

 

[jophil28]

Man, I agree with the general tone of this site but some of you are straight WARPED. I mean, sh1t, you've broken out of the "matrix" as we call it, then you did a 90 degree and started seeing things in reality, THEN did another 90 degree turn and got into the opposite of the matrix, albeit just as bad of a place. Now you hate ALL women and look at them like friggin' animals. Stupidity is what I like to call it.

They would call the hating "being aware" or "seeing women for who and what they are" ...and all spoken with that smug, self congratulatory tone.
In fact, all that universal hating is just a gigantic buffer against more hurt and disappointment.

 

[STR8UP]

And this is the voice of mankind, yet you are saying women are the vile ones.

70% of divorces are initiated by WOMEN.

Of course, as a woman it's in your best interest to shame men for something that YOU do twice as often.

You do not marry for temporary lustful or fun reasons.

You marry to build a life, a bond, trust, and LOVE. If you are lucky and smart, and picked the right one, then the result of all that you built OUTWEIGHS "trading it in for a newer, funner model." You wouldn't even look at the same way you'd look at a friggin car. Because it would be your life, your source of happiness, history, and hope. It would be a part of your soul, your heart, and all that blah blah blah that most of you are too depressed to believe in or strive for anymore, or are capable of building anyways at this point in your bleak, soulless mindstates.

Bullsh!t.

Your woman-brain can't possibly process this, and there are no doubt tons of clueless guys who will nod in agreement with you when you talk about how it "should be", but at the end of the day we are ALL wired to want the best deal in the mating game. And quite often that means that lots of men trade in their old clunker for a newer model and lots of women tie down a beta provider and screw their boss on the side.

Relationships, marriages, etc. ARE for the most part temporary.

But of course, YOU are the exception, right?

 

[speed dawg]

They would call the hating "being aware" or "seeing women for who and what they are" ...and all spoken with that smug, self congratulatory tone.
In fact, all that universal hating is just a gigantic buffer against more hurt and disappointment.

I hear you there. It's getting ridiculous.

Relationships, marriages, etc. ARE for the most part temporary.

Give me a break. If you want to be single forever and fvck a hundred girls and not value any of them, go right ahead, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to live. But don't go giving completely retarded agenda-filled "facts".

Come on, dude, you're better than that.

 

[STR8UP]

Give me a break. If you want to be single forever and fvck a hundred girls and not value any of them, go right ahead, I'm in no position to tell anyone how to live. But don't go giving completely retarded agenda-filled "facts".

Come on, dude, you're better than that.

It never ceases to amaze me that you can state plain, simple facts and statistics to back something up (not even accounting for the stuff that doesn't make it on paper) and you still get met with resistance and called a "hater".

FACT- you will break up with almost every girl you ever date.

FACT- when you do get married you have a 50% chance of breaking up with your wife. I don't have any stats to back this up, but if you do manage to stay together till one of you dies, you have maybe another 50% chance that you will be TRULY happy.

How many girlfriends have you had? How many chicks have you dated casually? How many claim you but you don't claim them?

5? 10? 20? 40?

Then you find "the one" and you get married, you have a 50% chance of getting a divorce, and you still only have a 50% chance (give or take) of being in a happy, healthy relationship, till death do you part.

Those are the facts. Tweak the "happy" number if you wish, or go look up some actual studies (I have seen them but I'm not going to look them up cause you don't want to hear it anyway) but it still comes down to the FACT that the vast majority of relationships ARE temporary, even if we are only talking about married couples.

Sorry if I destroyed any fantasies by putting it in black and white.

 

[guru1000]

You are still stuck on the idea that I think in the same absolute terms that you do.

Now how does a guy who states all women are the same, claim not to be of absolute thinking ?

The reason why I do not acknowledge "quality" is because I do not live in a black and white universe.

LOL. Again who is thinking in black and white terms?

You speak as if your "qualifying procedures" give you a glimpse into the future.

Actually YES. A perfect example of this is how you are accepting of any woman who speaks to you yet here you are with multiple threads describing the immorality and deception of women.

Look at the threads I have created and you will see a different theme. This is because I qualify and NEXT. If a woman doesn't merit my time and energy, she is tossed; plain and simple. When you have been in the game quite a while, you weed them out pretty quickly. After that, it is a matter of compatibility.

For a vet, you get blind sided pretty often. This is a result of your broken filter.

I've said it before and I will say it again- you cannot possibly judge "quality" over the course of a year or sometimes even ten.

You can judge quality in a second if you have an eye for it. You are mistaking quality for it's parent counterpart, compatibility.

Ambition and the upholding of convictions are masculine traits, as evidenced by the very examples you chose to give.

Ambition is a mutual term, each have a different meaning per gender. Upbringing is a feminine term directly influencing quality for a guy who has an eye for it.

Point is discipline whether through ambition or upbringing, is where convictions prevail and you don't need to look under a rock to find it. Open your eyes and you will see entire colonies of women with traditional upbringing. But you may be too caught up in the anti-matrix way of thinking than to see what's already in front of you.

You are essentially agreeing with me. And what you propose is that a man spend hour upon hour of his precious time shuffling through piles of garbage to find your "treasure".

Where is your precious time better spent, posting on Sosuave about the matrix and evils of women or building a harem of the most compatible contenders to choose from.

Last I checked, I am the married one and believe me I am not an easy guy to please.

That's all good and fine if you life's passion is to hand the majority of the leverage you have over to a woman in the form of a marriage contract, but I for one have no desire to waste away my life on what is ultimately a risky gamble where the stakes are high and the true payoff is non-existent.

A savvy businessman does not fall victim to this shaming tactic. Str8up, I am sure you of all people posting here would know of a few organizational ways of protecting your assets (ie 1% corporate owner acting as a general partner in an LLC that is owned by a parent corporation that an LP controls). Think about it.

The man who loses his wealth in marriage is not a savvy businessman. If you cannot protect your hard earned assets, either way you will lose them whether through marriage or in business.

The only leverage you give a woman is in what you disclose.

 

[Jeffst1980]

It never ceases to amaze me that you can state plain, simple facts and statistics to back something up (not even accounting for the stuff that doesn't make it on paper) and you still get met with resistance and called a "hater".

FACT- you will break up with almost every girl you ever date.

FACT- when you do get married you have a 50% chance of breaking up with your wife. I don't have any stats to back this up, but if you do manage to stay together till one of you dies, you have maybe another 50% chance that you will be TRULY happy.

How many girlfriends have you had? How many chicks have you dated casually? How many claim you but you don't claim them?

5? 10? 20? 40?

Then you find "the one" and you get married, you have a 50% chance of getting a divorce, and you still only have a 50% chance (give or take) of being in a happy, healthy relationship, till death do you part.

Those are the facts. Tweak the "happy" number if you wish, or go look up some actual studies (I have seen them but I'm not going to look them up cause you don't want to hear it anyway) but it still comes down to the FACT that the vast majority of relationships ARE temporary, even if we are only talking about married couples.

Sorry if I destroyed any fantasies by putting it in black and white.

Well, those first two probabilities are broad generalizations. I would assume the rate of divorce is much lower for couples that enter marriage with realistic expectations than it is for the AFC that marries the first HB he dates. Sure, there's a risk involved, but there's risk in everything.

I care little how we're "wired," because acting on base desires is hardly a foolproof path to happiness. Sure, you probably won't be as attracted to your wife 20 years down the line. But that's not why you marry her--you marry her because she's a caring, flexible, stable woman and you want to raise a family with her. Even if you were to leave her for a 22 year old--guess what? You'll get tired of banging the 22 year old, too. Or, she might just stop putting out until you fulfill your role as sugar daddy.

When evaluating a woman for marriage, her looks should NOT be at the top of the list. If it is, then do yourself a favor and don't get married. In fact, if having sex in general is at the top of your priorities, don't get married. The biggest mistake is to think that marriage is a way to have guaranteed sex--marriage in actuality has little to do with sex and much to do with simply learning to coexist with one another.

Marriage should be a rational, conscious decision reserved for when you want to start a family. Men should go into knowing that there won't be as much hot sex as in their single days, and women should go into it knowing that it won't be a fairytale. If this is understood, then you will bypass the major stumbling blocks that trip up many couples.

The statistics about marriage are scary, but statistics need a relevant context to be defined and thereby interpreted. It's not as much a crapshoot as some would have you believe, and the benefits outweigh the risks for many people.

 

[STR8UP]

Now how does a guy who states all women are the same, claim not to be of absolute thinking ?

I never claimed that all women are the same. This is exactly why you miss the point. Anything that does not fit into your way of thinking you automatically hear what you want to hear.

I DO generalize. You once claimed to have dated over 100??? women a year? If you are disqualifying THAT many women I would say that's pretty good evidence that it's safe to throw out some generalizations.

Look at the threads I have created and you will see a different theme. This is because I qualify and NEXT. If a woman doesn't merit my time and energy, she is tossed; plain and simple. When you have been in the game quite a while, you weed them out pretty quickly. After that, it is a matter of compatibility.

Excellent strategy, if you are wife shopping.

For a vet, you get blind sided pretty often. This is a result of your broken filter.

I don't get blindsided. My filter is fine. I just don't have the time or the desire to try to weed through a couple hundred chicks to try to find something I don't want in the first place.

You can judge quality in a second if you have an eye for it. You are mistaking quality for it's parent counterpart, compatibility.

If you truly believe this I feel bad for you. True character isn't something you can instinctively pick up on. TIME and EXPERIENCE is the ONLY way to make an accurate judgment. Until your wife has seen you at a low point, until you go through some rough times, you don't really know someone. "Quality" must be proven. You don't just "pick up" on it.

Ambition is a mutual term, each have a different meaning per gender. Upbringing is a feminine term directly influencing quality for a guy who has an eye for it.

Women (FEMININE, DESIREABLE women) seek to attach themselves to an ambitious male; they are not "ambitious" themselves.

Last I checked, I am the married one and believe me I am not an easy guy to please.

And you wear it like a badge of honor.

Which explains a lot about your stance. You HAVE to uphold the idea of the "quality woman" who has an unwavering sense of morality because to acknowledge that your woman might be susceptible to the flaws of mortal beings is to admit that your way of thinking is flawed. Plus, it kills the fantasy.

A savvy businessman does not fall victim to this shaming tactic. Str8up, I am sure you of all people posting here would know of a few organizational ways of protecting your assets (ie 1% corporate owner acting as a general partner in an LLC that is owned by a parent corporation that an LP controls). Think about it.

The man who loses his wealth in marriage is not a savvy businessman. If you cannot protect your hard earned assets, either way you will lose them whether through marriage or in business.

The only leverage you give a woman is in what you disclose.

The question has been posed before, and to the best of my recollection I cannot remember ANYONE being able to list ONE SINGLE TANGIBLE benefit of marriage for a man. You can't get anything being married (aside from some tax breaks which is no excuse to tie the knot) that you can't have remaining single.

So my question is, if there are virtually zero benefits to getting married, then why on earth would I even bother to try to "protect my assets"?