FR:Chic gave me a BJ, started crying.

[Warrior74]

My boy dragged me out last night, I wanted to sleep but he was in a partying mood. Ran into some friends and met this cute 30 year old. We danced and had a few shots. We ended up at her place and she gave me a bj in her driveway, then started crying because her husband who she is divorcing was inside sleep and she said she felt like a bad person, apparently he's a really nice guy and a good provider but she doesn't love him anymore. She promised to call me next week when he goes out of town. Women. I swear.

 

[STR8UP]

We should just split these threads into two discussions from the get go.

One side that says "Doesn't surprise me....chicks are chicks" and the other one that says "What do you expect picking up a chick in a bar? Don't you know that women who step foot outside the house are low quality trashbags?"

Nice guy hubby is in the house sleeping. Bet he didn't think she was ever capable of THAT when he married her!

 

[KontrollerX]

All women are capable of this.

You just either gotta be a guy with extremely tight game or in the right place at the right time or both but press the right buttons and any woman from the seemingly most saintly to the most normal to the most low will be all over your johnson.

From religious chicks in convents to the housewife to the bar skank to gutter trash and to iqqi ALL women can be made into insatiable c0ck worshippers for someone who is not their main boyfriend or husband once again if you press the right buttons.

 

[sodbuster]

Women who have decided to leave their husbands will generally go wild on the next guy they hook up with. She is feeling regret over the ending of the relationship[she probably started the divorce]. Nice to be that next guy for a bit,but not for long-they usually have baggage they need to work out.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

The only thing that got blown was the learning opportunity. Did you find out why she doesn't love him anymore? You could have reverse engineered his behavior in order to share some helpful information.

Props for being the rebound guy.

 

[squirrels]

The fact that she was sucking you off in the house that THEY own probably just set it off for her...here was this life she was leaving behind and blowing you there probably just reminded her how upset she was that she couldn't make something work.

Not to mention she probably felt a bit of guilt. Somewhere deep down, she's probably wondering why the relationship broke up...even if it's a simple mutual disagreement, here SHE is being a slvt in the driveway...it probably passed through her head that SHE was the reason the relationship failed, even if she wasn't.

She probably wouldn't have reacted like this if you had hooked up in a more neutral location. In fact, I don't know if you knew in advance that he was up there, but if you DID, you should've brought her back to your place or a neutral location. Not that you give a damn about the guy, but you don't want him coming downstairs pissed off with a shotgun...jealousy can cause a lot of trouble for you even if it's not yours.

Personally, I wouldn't sweat it. What are you gonna do?

All women can be made to "cheat". I swear, some of the behavior I've seen by women...all it takes is the right place, right time, right charm, and often the right drinks. And I don't feel bad about hooking up with a woman when she's drunk...I personally believe in vino veritas...if she's going to cheat drunk, she's thought about it sober and just didn't have the ovaries to act on it.

I just don't trust women any more. I've seen their force of will absolutely shattered by what they're feeling in their gut and in their c00ch.

In the old days, the reason women could stay faithful is because when another man advanced on them, they responded with anger and avoidance...they got AWAY before the man had a chance to communicate with her on a primal level.

Now that women are "equals" and not the housewives they were before, they are EASILY victimized by the clever PUA. As a good salesman knows, as long as they can keep her talking, they have time to circumvent the rational, "I'm in a relationship and can't cheat" response and cause her to have those "confusing feelings".

Maybe that's why I have such a hard time with the idea of being involved in a "relationship". Especially in this day and age, knowing what I know, seeing what I've seen, I know that she'll never really "be mine".

 

[Warrior74]

She probably wouldn't have reacted like this if you had hooked up in a more neutral location. In fact, I don't know if you knew in advance that he was up there, but if you DID, you should've brought her back to your place or a neutral location. Not that you give a damn about the guy, but you don't want him coming downstairs pissed off with a shotgun...jealousy can cause a lot of trouble for you even if it's not yours.

I agree. Location, location, location. She came on to me at the bar, she had no wedding ring. And actually she was a little tipsy and worried about the cops and asked me to follow her home. I just assumed it was a weak excuse to take me home. She told me about the husband after the BJ/crying jag. I was not happy to be put in that situation to be honest, I thought to myself, this guy could've come outside and blown my head off...I didn't stick around for more convo after she pulled herself together, I got the hell out of there.

She sent me a text tonight, apologizing and saying that if I didn't want to see her again she would understand. I'm not holding my breath for that one...moving on! Don't need the drama.

 

[jophil28]

She sent me a text tonight, apologizing and saying that if I didn't want to see her again she would understand. I'm not holding my breath for that one...moving on! Don't need the drama.

The BJ was a teaser, a sampler, to try to entice you to offer yourself as a branch for her to swing over to when she makes the transition from married to separated.

 

[jophil28]

She sent me a text tonight, apologizing and saying that if I didn't want to see her again she would understand.

THis is a 'womanspeek' enquiry, not an apology.
She is trying to assess your willingness to continue to see her again.
You are supposed to get back to her (she hopes) and tell her that she has nothing to apologize for, AND you would just LOVE to see her again.

 

[guru1000]

Next time tell her,

"Honey, don't cry. What's your name?"

Andrew Dice Clay

 

[iqqi]

All women are capable of this.

From religious chicks in convents to the housewife to the bar skank to gutter trash and to iqqi ...

Don't include me in your retard conclusions of "all women".

On a personal note: I have never cheated on anyone, not even close, and I am sure I never will. I have been cheated on by someone I was not even attracted to anymore, and I did not "retaliate", I left. It is a choice to cheat, and my personal values of MYSELF do not allow nor desire that choice.

On a general note: Saying all women do anything is akin to saying all men do anything, and neither is true. I have a gay male friend named Jay, who says all men will let him suck their c0cks and a lot more, if the right buttons are pushed. And that is a true story, and he has had some stuff to back up that claim.

All "all" statements except this one I am making right now, are bullsh!t.

When spouting bullsh!t, please leave me out of it. Thanks.

For all men feeling like you are being drawn to the dark side by all these ridiculous "all women" statements, read over and over what I wrote above. I have never cheated in any form, and find the entire charade degrading to myself, let alone the relationship I have chosen to be in.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Don't include me in your retard conclusions of "all women".

Until you post a legitimate picture of yourself to confirm that you even are a woman consider that a given.

 

[Unbridled_Phoenix]

It better be hot too

 

[Warrior74]

THis is a 'womanspeek' enquiry, not an apology.
She is trying to assess your willingness to continue to see her again.
You are supposed to get back to her (she hopes) and tell her that she has nothing to apologize for, AND you would just LOVE to see her again.

Yah. I figured as much. I made up my mind when I pulled of that I was done with that one. I felt bad for that guy...because I used to be that guy, but that's the way the world works in this day and time. She'll find someone else I'm sure, she was cute. I got two decent FBs who treat me well so I'm not hard up to be with her and her drama.

 

[jophil28]

I'm not hard up to be with her and her drama.

And drama was surely coming your way. YOu can bet on it. I have been with a woman who was in the final stages of a separation/divorce and her emotional crAp from her relationship splashed all over me.
That experience taught me never to get in triangles.

 

[STR8UP]

I've got a 25 year old milf that wants to have an affair with me. She seems like a good girl but after a few interactions she's made it clear that she wants to have sex. I wasn't as shocked as when I was still living in a moral fantasy, but I did learn just how forward girls are when they are attracted to a guy. I'm going to take it for a test ride at a neutral location and see if she gets goofy like Warriors did. I'm the same way, I don't need the drama. I just dumped my three plates and my stress level has dropped considerably.

The Truth is liberating and scary, both at the same time.

I have a married ex that keeps contacting me on facebook, phone, etc. Emails me telling me that she "really wants to meet up but not at your place becuse I've never cheated on my husband and you know what would happen if we got together". If I pushed it I could have her naked and gobbling my c0ck in three days, but eh......I got too much sh!t to do. I'm not making any special efforts but we will see how it plays out.

I like the term "moral fantasy". That's an interesting way to put it. The philosophy behind the "other camp", in my eyes anyway, revolves around an idealized morality, and it attempts to try to pigeonhole people into two separate and distinct groups. As soon as someone who is deemed to be in the "moral" group shows an absence of moral code, they are relegated to the other category; there is no acknowledgment of the HUGE grey area that lies in between. And the "fantasy" part.....well....that's self explanatory.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Until you post a legitimate picture of yourself to confirm that you even are a woman consider that a given.

She's hot, Rollo. I've seen pics.

 

[Jeffst1980]

I like the term "moral fantasy". That's an interesting way to put it. The philosophy behind the "other camp", in my eyes anyway, revolves around an idealized morality, and it attempts to try to pigeonhole people into two separate and distinct groups. As soon as someone who is deemed to be in the "moral" group shows an absence of moral code, they are relegated to the other category; there is no acknowledgment of the HUGE grey area that lies in between. And the "fantasy" part.....well....that's self explanatory.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Most people (and thus women) fall in this grey area. The average person is certainly not "amoral," but instead has a wealth of insecurities and character flaws that will lead them astray from time to time.

"Our camp" doesn't want to deal with that, so we separate the wheat from the chaff NOT on quantifiable "moral" terms, but based on what we can glean from current and past behavior. A very insecure and naturally defensive woman, for example, may be a caring, churchgoing, moral person, but she would be eliminated because these traits would eventually cause problems in the relationship.

We're pigeonholing them into camps for OUR benefit. We're not making judgments on their intrinsic value as a person.

The "quality woman" we speak of really has less to do with morality than it does with self-control, flexibility, respect, and ability to admit mistakes. The self control criteria will hopefully eliminate most of the "cheater friendly" category as well as the drunkies, drug abusers, and food bingers; "flexibiity" and "respect" should take care of the resentful man-haters and control freaks, and ability to admit fault should take care of the martyrs with a victim mentality.

There are a lot of women that DO have their s#it together, you just have to dig a little for them. Not all men cheat, so then it follows that not all women cheat. Women are not a separate, subhuman species.

You can't eliminate the possibility of infidelity from a relationship, but you CAN stack the odds in your favor, and that is the point of filtering. It's not as rigorous or crucial if you're not looking for an LTR, but you should be aware that some girls are particularly vengeful, and these ones should be filtered out at all costs.

 

[KontrollerX]

She's hot, Rollo. I've seen pics.

Oh bullsh!t.

I've seen the supposed pics of iqqi as well but it means absolutely nothing as anyone can rip some chick's pictures off from Myspace or Facebook and say they are so and so.

If he/she wants to prove they are a female there's a little internet site called youtube (you might of heard of it!) and he/she can start uploading video rants there anytime showing his/her face on camera and saying his/her username.

The rants/diatribes what have you being similar to the iqqi posts along with iqqi indicating iqqi is who they are will be proof.

As it stands now all we have are a few inconclusive pics that anyone could say were theirs.

 

[radiodude]

Jeffst1980-

Agreed, good post. All people are capable of cheating. There isn't one type or one sex that has a monopoly in this area.

Thus, you have PEOPLE that are made up of a set of values by choice. I've been cheated on and I have been the cheater. In the end you realize you did it by choice. And so does she. Makes her no less guilty, just not any different from the rest of the population in terms of capability.