jtrain 289 said:
yo dont try to only go to certain types of girls try to talk to every women whether their in groups or whether their 80 its all about getting more comfortable with your self and with females. All females are the same try to make it a game and set a number of girl u want to talk to and try to reach it in a certain amount of time. Dont go up to little girls though even if your just practicing you still get that guilty feeling lol you feel like a child molester
I tried to tell him that but it will be awhile before he even tries doing that. As he said all he wants to do is get laid. Which is a bad mindset and will make this harder than it already is.
It will be awhile before he realizes he needs to get experience in different situations in order to get better and at this.
The best quote I've heard for this is "The first 1000 approaches don't count". So in his case he has a long way to get 1000 approaches. If he goes at this rate it will be a very long time before he even get to 1000. (On the other hand it's not really to get you caught up on how many sets you're doing)
Basically when starting out you're doing alot of sets but the quality sucks (1-5mins) after awhile the quality starts to go up and the # of sets go down. If you're sets are pretty bad now, you can't be doing 1 set.
That is why you need to get the learning experience and just go out constantly and practice. Approaching all kinds of sets, mixed, all girl groups, lone girls, workers, etc.
WesCottII said:
Dude. Women. That. Work. In. Shops.
Approach.
I told him to do the exact same thing...these girls are paid to be nice, especially the sales girls. Jewelry section of department stores tend to always have a few hot girls. Makeup places, bath and body wash places, any real girlie girl places.
Heart Break Kid said:
It's sounds like you're really nervous and your body langauge is making her uneasy.
I told him it was something he was doing that we can't see through text, because it's common that he is getting blown out so quickly. Here is what I thought
- He's being reactive...When he goes in he most likely wants the situation to go good and he wants the validation of the girl. So when she doesn't he reacts by trying to get those bad emotions away by doing something he normally wouldn't do.
- Not in his own reality...He worries too much about what people think, so it's like the people around him dictate who he is because he won't do certain things because he doesn't want to be judged by other people. So when he goes up to these chicks instead of him bringing the party he is trying to get into the party. He isn't bringing the girl's into his reality, he is going into theirs.
- He is taking value...For some reason I get the feeling that he is not offering value. It's like a mixture of other problems that includes this. Why I think that? because whether he is "plowing" right or wrong the girl's aren't even staying, which lead me to believe it was his...
- Bad Voice...Not expressive, not loud, not speaking from the stomach, and overall he can't command much attention with his voice.
- Doesn't have a strong frame...I never really thought of the frame he is going up with. But most likely it's week because the women tend to always be controling the interaction in his sets. Most new guys tend to go up witha weak frame and hoping that she won't give them a bad reaction
- Not doing 90/10 rule...He maybe going in and expecting her to speak, but she doesn't even know him. So he'd have to plow and talk 90% of the time and only time she is actually talking is if he structured an opportunity for her to talk
- Bad bodylanguage...Probably showing nervous energy, he is probably going directly up in there face which is needy, if her body isn't facing you, but your body is facing her. In this case you're looking needy and she is looking indifferent. Only time you'r body should be facing her is if she is facing you which it is then neutral.
There are countless other things but my main thing is that these girls can smell that he is interested and wants something. An I realize it is probably the want because he wants "to get laid" so it's like he goes in with an outcome in mind. Which will get him no where and the girls know what he is trying to do and he gets blown out quickly.