FR: Amazing date but may have over-DJed. Help Master DJs!

duke007

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This is a continuation of my earlier field report about the Maltese girl. You can read all about it here:
http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=36618

I'd like to tell you guys about the date because although it went to plan, I think I got in over my head.... I seem to have gotten all the DJ concepts just from copious reading but have limited experience. This was only my second date, so I used all my skills and abilities learnt thus far.

I went to her house and the parents were there, they let me in and I had to wait with them for about 5 minutes. Scary! lucky they weren't crazy ethnic parents and they were very nice but still it wasn't ideal for my sake.

We went bowling, I won both games by a lot. Teased her in a playful manner whenever I got the chance. Initially I noticed with the high fives and stuff she was holding on to my hand longer than normal.

BUT, one thing disturbed me. I didn't notice at the pub, or on the way there because I am trained to look at the eyes (she is shorter than me anyway). But when she went up to bowl, I couldn't help but notice she had a fat arse! It was bizarre, like a petite, skinny normal top half and then oversized bottom half! I took a double take, I was devastated but didn't show it. Just as long as I kept looking at the top half!

So I had to fix her rating to a 6, potential for 7 if she toned that arse!

This date was motivated by the recent tip about boyishness and being unpredictable. So this is where the fun began. We played a little dare game where we took it in turns to complete a dare in the bowling alley.

I made her walk up to a family's bag of Doritos and eat some right in front of them. She did it, amazed I got a shy girl to do that! She dared me to order some Chinese food at the cafeteria (they jsut have hot dogs and junk like that), which I did without hesitation. Got a funny reaction.

Later we went for coffee and ice cream and flitted between intelligent conversation and unpredictable jokiness. I was really on top of my game and she was eating it right up.

To give one example I used this pattern (spoken with a straight face):

"There's something from my past you should know."

Then she looked serious and I kept on with it:

"I'm a reformed kleptomaniac. Sometimes it's hard to cope.....yadda yadda"

I said it convincingly so she believed me and while I was talking started putting sugar sachets in my pocket. When she noticed she was cracking up laughing and couldn't stop. I knew this pattern would be money!

About now, c0ckblocking friend from the pub SMSs asking how it's going. Damn! So I take her phone and wrote in, "I can't believe this jerk!" She thought that was funny and we sent it off.

There was a lot more of this stuff which I won't go into, but I was being a lot of fun.

Then on the drive back I used that tip where you ask her to describe her favourite colour, animal and body of water in three words. Her answers for the last one were: Puddle - small, different, wet. So I teased her about that for a while.

We get back to her house, I walk her to her door and go for the kiss close. She's not 'shy' at all! She went right for tongue from the get go and wouldn't let up. I'm taught to expect an innocent kiss after the first date, not full-on tongue action! I improvised with the situation, but still I didn't know what the hell I was doing! :D. So yeah that was my first kiss ever and it was quite advanced for a beginner, not that I f*cked it up or anything. So I said I'd call her and left.

Now, for the point of this post. I don't hate large women, but her arse really was too wide for a girl of her size. She definitely wasn't genetically fat or anything, so surely that will melt away after some hard work in the gym. I tried to hint at getting her to the gym but she doesn't want to go alone. Does anybody have advice to convince a girl to lose weight for you? I know you have to tread carefully round an issue like this and I'm at loss as to what to do.

Also, probably even more importantly something concerned me. That was her intimating at up to 5 times throughout the night that we would be together in the future (ie when you get to know my parents, forgot other things but it DEFINITELY was hinting that she want's a long term relationship, which I DON"T WANT.)

It was only a date, I want to date her semi-regularly for up to two months until I consider committing. I don't want a girlfriend, she should have understanded from my personality I was that type of guy but she obviously didn't.

It seems to be something about Australia. We don't really have a 'dating culture' like in the States. I don't know anyone who dates many girls at once, and people that have hooked up became official almost right from the start. It seems like over here, a date is some sort of a commitment.

I may be over-reacting but this reality is concerning me a bit, because I'm hoping this girl doesn't consider a tongue kiss to be a LTR-starter. Aussie DJs provide any insights?

So this was my second date (total that is, first with her) and I pulled out every trick in the book. I was funny, intelligent and confident. And this obviously floored her. But I didn't realise that being a DJ was so powerful. I've underestimated my abilities and got myself way in over my head.

While this website teaches us how to attract women, it doesn't really equip us to handle its many consequences. I don't want to NEXT too early, but I'd really love some honest advice about how to handle my situation.

Cheers.
 
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First of all... in the "states" as you'd call them, we would KILL for a petite girl with a fat ass. Shes built for sex man.

I'm not sure if your familiar with Jennifer Lopez but that is most guys view of an Ideal woman. Why would you want a tiny flat ass? Think about pounding that woman sized one... ahhh...

This girl seems like shes fun and you seem to be connecting with her pretty good... don't expect it to go that well with every girl and just keep doin what your doin. If the ass is that big of an issue... to where it would affect your LTR opinion then I'd say something about it.

In the states wide hips with a nice ass on a petite girl is "in" and I am definately more attracted to curvy women.
 

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You've noticed the same thing with the cultures...

Outside of the US dating culture, when people start dating, it's automatically assumed that it's exclusive. And it's a S/MTR from the word go.

So instead of a pattern of

1. Get numbers for Girls A, B & C
2. Date Girl A
3. Date Girl B
4. Date Girl C
5. Date Girl A
6. Date Girl B
7. Date Girl C
8. Start "going out with" Girl C.

What we do here is:

1. Start "going out with" Girl A.
2. Break up.
3. Start "going out with" Girl B.
4. Break up.
5. Start "going out with" Girl C.

It's a very important difference.
Al.
 

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Click here: 11 years old? Sh1t dude. Anyway, the arse is bigger than J Lo's. I don't mind a curvy woman but this is just a little bit too large for my liking. I'm a fairly small guy myself, don't want a cracked pelvis or anything! :D

Oscar Wilde: If what you say is true that is very devastating. I want to date many girls at once before deciding which one I like, dammit. Will there be severe repercussions if I broke the local dating rules?
 

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Originally posted by duke007
Will there be severe repercussions if I broke the local dating rules?
Well, even in the US people who are dating prefer to think you are exclusive with them. That's human nature, not just custom.

The idea in most cases is not to let them find out about each other. If they do, that's when you hit the repercussions -- you might lose them both.
 

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I know you have to tread carefully round an issue like this
LOL, her ass must be ROUND.

TO me a fat arse is the greatest feature a woman can possess. Trust me its a good thing especially if shes slim otherwise.

I think you have a keepr here, just go with the flow and dont let her think you are commiting to her.
How old are you guys anyway?
 

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Hmm I'm not too keen on fat arses either. And J-Lo doesn't have a fat arse. It's not tiny but it aint fat. Petite all the way for me.

And here in Glasgow (Scotland, UK) dating isn't necessarily exclusive. It's once you have sex that it's kinda assumed exclusivity - although I'm working flat out to break that misconception :)
 

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I like nice round asses, a perfect bubble butt. Not a cottage cheese factory.
 

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stop talking about aces.. wtf

he said she was a 6... who gives a sh1t if she has a nice ace? seriously, i dont know about you guys, but i dont even consider 6's...



besides that, good work man, you seem like you know your sh1t well

i am going to ask a HB out tommorow and i think i might take her bowling too

i was just wondering, how long did you talk on the phone with her/whatd you say

also, did you pick her up? did you pay for bowling and food or what?

also on the date, what did you talk about ( i may run out of things to say with this girl, she is pretty shy) and what was that dare thing you did with bowling? (explain it better plz)

also the 3 word thing, what was that,a nd did you randomly just ask her?


only corrections i see was that you said you'd call her later (should keep them guessing and say you had a great time, then bye xxx)

also, who cares if what youre doing is not culturally accpeted? you dont have to tell this girl you are seeing other people, and if you think it will be a problem, just dont tell anyone (your friends) i fyou must, YOU NEED TO DATE OTHER GIRLS TOO

you cant find 2 HB8's at the same time and just break up with one cause its "culturally acceptable" live your life, not the way\ everyone else in austrialia does...

peace
 

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deeman: 19 years old, both of us nearly 20

Julian: Well yeah, it's half way between a bubble butt and a cottage cheese factory!

white_hype: Hope it's not too late for you dude. To answer some of your questions:

Firstly with the 6 thing, it's really just because I'm an 'arse guy' and one that looks tight but shapely in a pair of jeans is a high priority for me. So the arse brings the rating down in my opinion...

Didn't talk on the phone for long at all. Really just asked how her week was and just stupid fluff talk like that, but she didn't say much seeing she's shy. So I just went straight to setting up the date and finished up within 3 or so mins.

"Are you available on Sunday"
"yes"
"How would you like to go bowling with me?"
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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continued *whoops double post*

I picked her up at her place, had to wait 5 to 10 minutes while she finished getting ready. The drive was about 25 minutes which is not good at all.

I paid for bowling, then she offered to pay for the coffee and sundae later.

You won't run out of things to say while bowling but on my date we talked about her acting classes, hobbies like photography that kind of thing. Cooking and food came up at one stage, stuff about our cultures, funny stories that have happened to us etc etc. You'll think of stuff.

The rest of the time was just me saying jokes and asking crazy boyish questions like "What candy bar would you like to smell like?" (Thanks for that tip to the guy who said it.)

About the dares: since we were talking about acting I asked how much confidence she thinks she got out of it. When she said she is confident, I said "Well lets put your so called confidence to the test".

So I challenged her to a dare, and if she completes the dare it's her turn to dare me to do something. Simple. It got cut short after one dare however since there was nothing really to work with.

I actually asked her to walk up to a guy a get his phone number. She was agreeable but we couldn't find a suitable guy. Only slightly older blokes and I'd be irresponsible to make her approach one of them (especially in a outer suburban bowling alley :)).

About the '3 word thing', the tip is somewhere in the tips forum. (Can't find it now coz my Internet is screwy). I briefly explain though.

Ask the girl to name her favourite colour, animal and body of water and describe each of them in three words.

The colour represents her inner self
The animal her outer self
and body of water her sexual side

This can lead the conversation onto sex-related stuff. It makes you seem intelligent and intriguing, good tip for anyone I say. Still run a search for the topic, its all been analysed.

I asked her this question in the car right at the beginning of a lull.

And yeah mate you're right about telling her I'd call. Bad move.

Good luck bro
 

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Next thing we know you are going to write a post complaining about her tight p@ssy.
 

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Yeah I know the feeling these portugese girl im seeing now, has a big ass, I hadnt noticed before coz I kept looking at her gorgeouse upper body and face, her ass has curves and a nice shape, just big, alittle big around the legs too..

I had to do some hard core contemplation, but it does turn me on in a way, shes also a sweety, so we'll see. :D
 
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Don't sweat it. With each failure you step closer to success. You learn from any mistakes you may of made and move on and atleast your out there doing the dam thang.

I applaude your efforts and wish you luck. I don't believe in over DJing something either. A woman cannot get enough game from a man.
 
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