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To each their own. I've been in similar situations and had similar results so it's probable to me. Most girls that act this way have seen a lot of cahk. They put up a front, it's part of their innocent act to convince themselves they arent really wh0res.
Exactly. Trying to analyze female behavior using the "does it make sense?" filter is a losing proposition.
 

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I say again, what would that be?
It a matter of banging at any cost vs banging something that makes you feel proud that you banged the girl

these low smv girls ( and smv is not necessarily looks wise, though there is a strong correlation between the 2 in most cases ) are at best some self esteem bandana that you put on your bruised ego. But the reality is that they do not count

like @Velasco mentioned about his experience with them, I also went through a similar phase, but banging these type of girls after the initial “high” made me feel dirty and bad about the whole experience

Someone that is sane has a threshold in terms of dealing with retarded behavior( unfortunately plenty of these type of behavior now days from both men and women ) or dealing with people with mental problems

Also, dealing with these type of women does not really teach you anything of value because :

1) banging the biggest sl8t that for some reason does not want to bang you and knows all the tricks in the book, is basically impossible

2) a girl of value ( like mentioned previously not necessarily tied to looks, though most of the time is a strong correlation between the two ) will not act like a retard

Again, I do not want to make you feel bad or lecture you, but you are a young guy with a lot of potential from what you write here, and it would be a shame to not reach your potential because you spend most of your energy with retarded / mentally ill people

focus on developing your skills and surrounding yourself with quality people ( both men and women ), as otherwise you will find a lot of misery down the line by not dealing with quality people

also, you will always remember the quality girls you will meet ( quite vividly ), while the rest after a couple of bangs you will not even remember anything about them ( including that you banged them )

the only time when it makes sense to go through erratic behavior is when you really like the girl and for some reason you shot yourself in the foot ( we all do it, especially when we realized that we actually like the girl a lot ), otherwise you will put a lot of effort towards a girl that you will not even remember how she looks like after a couple of bangs more. Basically a lot of effort for nothing
 
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It a matter of banging at any cost vs banging something that makes you feel proud that you banged the girl

these low smv girls ( and smv is not necessarily looks wise, though there is a strong correlation between the 2 in most cases ) are at best some self esteem bandana that you put on your bruised ego. But the reality is that they do not count

like @Velasco mentioned about his experience with them, I also went through a similar phase, but banging these type of girls after the initial “high” made me feel dirty and bad about the whole experience

Someone that is sane has a threshold in terms of dealing with retarded behavior( unfortunately plenty of these type of behavior now days from both men and women ) or dealing with people with mental problems

Also, dealing with these type of women does not really teach you anything of value because :

1) banging the biggest sl8t that for some reason does not want to bang you and knows all the tricks in the book, is basically impossible

2) a girl of value ( like mentioned previously not necessarily tied to looks, though most of the time is a strong correlation between the two ) will not act like a retard

Again, I do not want to make you feel bad or lecture you, but you are a young guy with a lot of potential from what you write here, and it would be a shame to not reach your potential because you spend most of your energy with retarded / mentally ill people

focus on developing your skills and surrounding yourself with quality people ( both men and women ), as otherwise you will find a lot of misery down the line by not dealing with quality people

also, you will always remember the quality girls you will meet ( quite vividly ), while the rest after a couple of bangs you will not even remember anything about them ( including that you banged them )

the only time when it makes sense to go through erratic behavior is when you really like the girl and for some reason you shot yourself in the foot ( we all do it, especially when we realized that we actually like the girl a lot ), otherwise you will put a lot of effort towards a girl that you will not even remember how she looks like after a couple of bangs more. Basically a lot of effort for nothing
I think a lot of what you're looking to read about, and what you would find educational, simply conflicts with what I'm looking for at this stage of my life.

I've stated that I do what I do because I enjoy sex with a variety of women. Everybody is different, and so long as I find a woman attractive and don't otherwise have concerns about being intimate with them (health, safety, etc), I enjoy that novelty and nuance.

Additionally, I am not at a point in my life where I am pursuing a serious, long-term relationship with a woman of value, as you put it. I am living in my parent's house, quite underemployed. Those are the problems I need to fix before I worry about any of that. Sex and intimacy don't get in the way of that goal in nearly the same way a relationship would - speaking from experience.

The girls I sleep with don't need to make me proud, as if I "earned it". They're not emotional support for my "bruised ego". And some readers will categorize all these women as wh*res because of how quickly I managed to sleep with them. That last part is particularly disappointing because it completely disregards everything I did correctly as I tried to teach it because I must've just picked the "easy girl".

I don't see the point in sacrificing what I enjoy to live up to somebody else's standard.

If you want to read a story about persistence, where the guy eventually wins over his dream girl and gets married, I'm not your guy.

If you want to read a story about confidence, where the guy leads his woman through the night to be her Mr. Right Now, and teaches other guys how they can do the same, then you might find some value here.
 

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I think a lot of what you're looking to read about, and what you would find educational, simply conflicts with what I'm looking for at this stage of my life.

I've stated that I do what I do because I enjoy sex with a variety of women. Everybody is different, and so long as I find a woman attractive and don't otherwise have concerns about being intimate with them (health, safety, etc), I enjoy that novelty and nuance.

Additionally, I am not at a point in my life where I am pursuing a serious, long-term relationship with a woman of value, as you put it. I am living in my parent's house, quite underemployed. Those are the problems I need to fix before I worry about any of that. Sex and intimacy don't get in the way of that goal in nearly the same way a relationship would - speaking from experience.

The girls I sleep with don't need to make me proud, as if I "earned it". They're not emotional support for my "bruised ego". And some readers will categorize all these women as wh*res because of how quickly I managed to sleep with them. That last part is particularly disappointing because it completely disregards everything I did correctly as I tried to teach it because I must've just picked the "easy girl".

I don't see the point in sacrificing what I enjoy to live up to somebody else's standard.

If you want to read a story about persistence, where the guy eventually wins over his dream girl and gets married, I'm not your guy.

If you want to read a story about confidence, where the guy leads his woman through the night to be her Mr. Right Now, and teaches other guys how they can do the same, then you might find some value here.

better to put up the extra energy and time in you, rather than “spending it” with some girls that you will not even remember how they look like in a couple of months

Reread what I wrote above in 5-10 years from now
 
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better to put up the extra energy and time in you, rather than “spending it” with some girls that you will not even remember how they look like in a couple of months

Reread what I wrote above in 5-10 years from now
Its ok big papa. Not all of us are the same. I spent 5yrs banging girls like this. The great thing about them was all the fun and memories. And I learned plenty about women and myself. It helped me get to where I'm at today. BPH is enjoying good times and you can bet his buddies are living vicariously thru him, bored and frustrated with the "good girls" they chose to settle down with. Later on in life he will grow tired of these types and be ready to date someone you would approve of. Its good to get it out of your system.
 
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BPH is enjoying good times and you can bet his buddies are living vicariously thru him, bored and frustrated with the "good girls" they chose to settle down with.
The flight attendant with breast implants (FR 97) was a solid shorter term sex partner.

He might be losing touch with some of his friends as I did in my 30s. During my 30s, my friends got into LTRs/marriages and had kids. I now have a bunch of friends with infants/toddlers who I have far less contact with.

Even though I have less contact with my married friends with infants/toddlers, multiple friends with infants/toddlers and wives have told me that my life choice's in mating are superior to theirs.
 
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The flight attendant with breast implants (FR 97) was a solid shorter term sex partner.

He might be losing touch with some of his friends as I did in my 30s. During my 30s, my friends got into LTRs/marriages and had kids. I now have a bunch of friends with infants/toddlers who I have far less contact with.

Even though I have less contact with my married friends with infants/toddlers, multiple friends with infants/toddlers and wives have told me that my life choice's in mating are superior to theirs.
That’s the age old paradox, ‘the grass is always greener’.
 

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Its ok big papa. Not all of us are the same. I spent 5yrs banging girls like this. The great thing about them was all the fun and memories. And I learned plenty about women and myself. It helped me get to where I'm at today. BPH is enjoying good times and you can bet his buddies are living vicariously thru him, bored and frustrated with the "good girls" they chose to settle down with. Later on in life he will grow tired of these types and be ready to date someone you would approve of. Its good to get it out of your system.
I am not talking about settling down

I strictly am talking about focusing on girls whom he will actually learn stuff from ( at least seduction wise ) or actually likes, not banging because he thinks is cool to bang or because he will look cool by doing so

otherwise, a big danger that no one really talks about is becoming jaded, just like the girls riding the c0ck carousel

also, what I think is the best mix is to have a relationship with a girl that you at least mildly like and from time to time loosing the cannon

Putting too much effort on getting laid, takes time from other stuff that you also have to focus when young, and you need a good mix between women and building your life in order to succeed

I am 34 now, as an idea by 24 ( the op age ) I was already living on my own for almost 3 years and still had more than enough time to have a good social life and pick up girls

no matter how you put it, if you are not a loser you would not be impressed or finding it even remotely interesting that some guy is putting a lot of effort in banging girls
 
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I am not talking about settling down

I strictly am talking about focusing on girls whom he will actually learn stuff from ( at least seduction wise ) or actually likes, not banging because he thinks is cool to bang or because he will look cool by doing so

otherwise, a big danger that no one really talks about is becoming jaded, just like the girls riding the c0ck carousel

also, what I think is the best mix is to have a relationship with a girl that you at least mildly like and from time to time loosing the cannon

Putting too much effort on getting laid, takes time from other stuff that you also have to focus when young, and you need a good mix between women and building your life in order to succeed

I am 34 now, as an idea by 24 ( the op age ) I was already living on my own for almost 3 years and still had more than enough time to have a good social life and pick up girls

no matter how you put it, if you are not a loser you would not be impressed or finding it even remotely interesting that some guy is putting a lot of effort in banging girls
thats cool, we are all different. I said what I said and its fine you don't see value in it, however others do.
 

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thats cool, we are all different. I said what I said and its fine you don't see value in it, however others do.
Let time draw the line

all stock investors are gurus when the market is growing, but down the line only a few match or surpass the market index

in the meantime I will post here an article that I read recently and found it quite good

 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The flight attendant with breast implants (FR 97) was a solid shorter term sex partner.

He might be losing touch with some of his friends as I did in my 30s. During my 30s, my friends got into LTRs/marriages and had kids. I now have a bunch of friends with infants/toddlers who I have far less contact with.

Even though I have less contact with my married friends with infants/toddlers, multiple friends with infants/toddlers and wives have told me that my life choice's in mating are superior to theirs.
She's in Minnesota texting me from a layover. We have tentative plans in 2 weeks, but I'll see how much effort she's expecting since she gave me an attitude about inviting myself over when I was nearby.

I have lost touch with some of my friends over the years for those reasons, but I do maintain a core group who I've known and hung out with for several years now.

Most others will enter an LTR, stop going out, and their life choices will revolve around whatever their girlfriends are doing. This isn't an issue though. I naturally make friends pretty easily, often through the gym, and try to link up with those who I think will be more of an asset than a liability.

no matter how you put it, if you are not a loser you would not be impressed or finding it even remotely interesting that some guy is putting a lot of effort in banging girls
You're describing a catch-22: I'm wasting too much time banging low SMV girls, but because I'm not putting in enough time they must be low SMV.

Which is it?

At what point does my skillset factor in, and not them being wh*res?
 

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She's in Minnesota texting me from a layover. We have tentative plans in 2 weeks, but I'll see how much effort she's expecting since she gave me an attitude about inviting myself over when I was nearby.
It is good that FR 97 is still an option for now. A lot of time will elapse between the first instance of sex and the next in-person get together. That's not relationship material but it's possible it could be a casual sex partner. Her attitude going forward will be important in forming the direction of the interaction.

How much effort do you want to put into her?

I have lost touch with some of my friends over the years for those reasons, but I do maintain a core group who I've known and hung out with for several years now.
I haven't lost touched with any friends that I have made since moving to my current city over their changes in lifestyle. However, I have had less contact (fewer calls and texts) and less in-person get togethers with these friends. One good friend also moved away but occasionally visits the city where I live.

My sense is that the fellow infant/toddler parents in the main group of the "Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere" thread see each other more regularly than they see me over their shared parental statuses. However, I don't think there's a lot of socialization between the fellow parents.

Most others will enter an LTR, stop going out, and their life choices will revolve around whatever their girlfriends are doing. This isn't an issue though. I naturally make friends pretty easily, often through the gym, and try to link up with those who I think will be more of an asset than a liability.
You seem to do well with re-stocking your friend group after losing someone to an LTR/marriage and possibly children being born from these LTRs.
 
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