Four types of men (physically) and how attractive women react to them

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As far as looks are concerned, I think men fall into four different categories with most men falling into the two middle categories.

1.) Physically ugly men- These men are noticeably unattractive and generally never get any positive attention from attractive women. The only thing that can help them land an attractive woman is by being famous or being an unknown with a high net worth.

2.) Physically Average men-These men are neither attractive, but you don't consider them ugly. (Hollywood examples-Adam Sandler, Corey Feldman, John C.Reilly). Men in the real world (in this category) generally get ignored by attractive women most of the time, but will have a hot woman like them or notice them once in awhile. Men in this category, can pull hot women if they have the confidence or social status to attract her. However, when it comes to first impressions; these men are mostly ignored.

3.) Attractive but not strikingly handsome men. (Hollywood examples-Steve Carrell, Jimmy Fallon, Matt Damon). In the real world, men in this attractiveness range will get a decent amount of attention from hot women, but will have an equally amount of hot women ignore them. They get noticed alot, but don't make a woman's head turn.

4.) Strikingly Handsome men-These men won the genetic lottery and generally draw instant disdain and envy from men in the other categories (Hollywood examples-Matt Bomer, Rob Lowe, Paul Walker, Tyler Kitsch, Alex Rodriquez). These are the men who will have most attractive women like them (on looks alone). They will make a woman's head turn wherever they go and will actually have women initiate conversations with them. Of course, if the man is shy, lacks confidence or socially awkward, his exceptional looks won't help.

Most of us fall into categories two and three and the same can be said for women.

To those that say "I see ugly men with beautiful women all the time". No, you don't. These men are most likely average men with attractive women or an attractive (but not strikingly handsome) man with an exceptionally attractive woman.

My point of this thread. Looks matter and the more handsome you are, the more opportunities you will have.

So, if you are out of shape fix it! If you are balding, shave your head or get a hair transplant. If you have bad teeth, get braces.
 

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Right when I saw this post it said alot to me that you started with "physically ugly men".. I already knew this post was not going to be one i agreed with because its coming from a place of negativity.

Now, let me tell you one thing: you're 100% wrong. but clearly this post are things you're convincing yourself up.. and judging by what you started with "ugly men" first, it shows you have low self esteem.

I mean are some of you guys in county/rural areas? have you not been outside much? ive seen ugly guys with amazing girls.. personality and value trumps attraction for women. sure women like attraction but attraction means 0 to them if u have no personality or value,or ur bad in the sack.
 

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Right when I saw this post it said alot to me that you started with "physically ugly men".. I already knew this post was not going to be one i agreed with because its coming from a place of negativity.

Now, let me tell you one thing: you're 100% wrong. but clearly this post are things you're convincing yourself up.. and judging by what you started with "ugly men" first, it shows you have low self esteem.

I mean are some of you guys in county/rural areas? have you not been outside much? ive seen ugly guys with amazing girls.. personality and value trumps attraction for women. sure women like attraction but attraction means 0 to them if u have no personality or value,or ur bad in the sack.
Low self esteem because I started with ugly men first? Haha

You didn't notice I started with least to greatest?

Btw, I am an attractive guy, but not strikingly handsome. I am in category #3.

By ugly, I don't mean a guy who is 20lbs overweight, balding or average looking in the face. I'm talking about guys who look like Danny Devito or actor Vincent Schiavelli (from Ghost and Better Off Dead)
 

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Looks do matter. We get taught in school that "its whats inside that counts" (among other bull****..) In the real world,especially when you are young and hitting the clubs,you rise and fall on your looks. As an average or ugly guy walks past, "I bet he`s got a nice personality" said no stunning woman,ever.Im not saying thats right,nice,or fair..but its real world.Good looking people have an easier time of it,its been proven to destruction,they get better jobs,more money,doors in life open more easily,better choice of partners,they even get less jail time if thats the way their life goes! Fair ? No...but true.
 

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Looks do matter. We get taught in school that "its whats inside that counts" (among other bull****..) In the real world,especially when you are young and hitting the clubs,you rise and fall on your looks. As an average or ugly guy walks past, "I bet he`s got a nice personality" said no stunning woman,ever.Im not saying thats right,nice,or fair..but its real world.Good looking people have an easier time of it,its been proven to destruction,they get better jobs,more money,doors in life open more easily,better choice of partners,they even get less jail time if thats the way their life goes! Fair ? No...but true.
I also read "people want to be liked and accepted by good looking people".

Yes, men want to be liked and accepted by good looking men (no, not in a gay way either)
 

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There are countles studies that show that already at the kindergarden teachers grant more attention and care to good looking children.

Basically the snowball effects that takes them in the top position through giving them opportunities and feeding their confidence begins on day 0.

This is one of the many reasons for which whoever suggests others to "be more confident" as if it was a choice, knows nothing about how this world works.

For a man the only thing that can give him what his crappy look does not, is a sharp brain and a set of iron balls with a high tolerance for risk on top.
 

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I also read "people want to be liked and accepted by good looking people".

Yes, men want to be liked and accepted by good looking men (no, not in a gay way either)
Thats true.The acceptance of good looking people is somehow worth more than from the lesser looking person.
 

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I think only Dwayne Johnson will get women turn their heads. I never saw that in real life no matter how attractive some guy can be on that scale. Most good looking women are just to proud to approach guys, initiate things etc. They give signals on you to act and that's about it.
 

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I think only Dwayne Johnson will get women turn their heads. I never saw that in real life no matter how attractive some guy can be on that scale. Most good looking women are just to proud to approach guys, initiate things etc. They give signals on you to act and that's about it.
Yeah, 6'6" (or close), handsome with a unique ethnic look, for sure.
 

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There are countles studies that show that already at the kindergarden teachers grant more attention and care to good looking children.

Basically the snowball effects that takes them in the top position through giving them opportunities and feeding their confidence begins on day 0.

This is one of the many reasons for which whoever suggests others to "be more confident" as if it was a choice, knows nothing about how this world works.

For a man the only thing that can give him what his crappy look does not, is a sharp brain and a set of iron balls with a high tolerance for risk on top.
but confidence is a choice, don't forget the ugly guy who is too dumb to not try to get the hot girl, he have teh confidence to try, because he is too dumb to question it, he donb't overthink he just go do it
 

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but confidence is a choice, don't forget the ugly guy who is too dumb to not try to get the hot girl, he have teh confidence to try, because he is too dumb to question it, he donb't overthink he just go do it
Thats impulsivity not confidence, he is too dumb to weight the outcomes of his actions or even think about it.

Confidence is knowing that you can make it cause you either did it before or cause you are generally used to win and have good feedbacks in most things you do.
 

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In my experience, looks have certainly made a difference for me.
I don't know about the OP's scale... but based on it I would say that before I got married, I would have fallen into #2 category.
Distinctly average... didn't stand out in any way.

Since getting divorced, and getting my act together - coupled with the fact I look easily 10 yrs younger than I am... maybe 12 or 15 on a good day - casual dating has become way easier for me than it was in my 20s.
I'd say I'm now in #3 category - Not striking in any way, and I certainly don't 'turn heads', but was told by friend's wife (an impartial woman) earlier this year that I'm 'a solid 8' in her words.

I've definitely improved with age - and I'm noticing the difference.
I know I'll never get the super-hot 20-somethings (though there was a VERY nice 28 yr old a couple of yrs ago) - but I do very well with mid 30s, into mid 40s - I know that isn't such a big deal for the younger guys here, but at 57.... I'll take that, thanks :)

Maybe maturity, stability, and confidence have helped me quite a bit... But I know that if I was a fat, below-average, slob... I'd currently be incel.
Looks do make a difference.
 

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In my experience, looks have certainly made a difference for me.
I don't know about the OP's scale... but based on it I would say that before I got married, I would have fallen into #2 category.
Distinctly average... didn't stand out in any way.

Since getting divorced, and getting my act together - coupled with the fact I look easily 10 yrs younger than I am... maybe 12 or 15 on a good day - casual dating has become way easier for me than it was in my 20s.
I'd say I'm now in #3 category - Not striking in any way, and I certainly don't 'turn heads', but was told by friend's wife (an impartial woman) earlier this year that I'm 'a solid 8' in her words.

I've definitely improved with age - and I'm noticing the difference.
I know I'll never get the super-hot 20-somethings (though there was a VERY nice 28 yr old a couple of yrs ago) - but I do very well with mid 30s, into mid 40s - I know that isn't such a big deal for the younger guys here, but at 57.... I'll take that, thanks :)

Maybe maturity, stability, and confidence have helped me quite a bit... But I know that if I was a fat, below-average, slob... I'd currently be incel.
Looks do make a difference.
A lot of mid 30s women are still youthful and hot. To land one at age 57, that has to feel good for sure. Congrats
 

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A lot of mid 30s women are still youthful and hot. To land one at age 57, that has to feel good for sure. Congrats
LOL thanks!
Currently homing in on a nurse of 42 - A slow-burner because of her job, she has to be very careful due to Covid... but she seems very keen so far... Last week she suggested we should 'up' the coffee date we had provisionally arranged to an evening date.
Looks very promising at this point :up:
 

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Thats impulsivity not confidence, he is too dumb to weight the outcomes of his actions or even think about it.

Confidence is knowing that you can make it cause you either did it before or cause you are generally used to win and have good feedbacks in most things you do.
but its looks like confidence, the idea is always sell the image, and who buy it, buy it, if not move one
 

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but its looks like confidence, the idea is always sell the image, and who buy it, buy it, if not move one
If you are talking about the "fake it untill you make it" principle then of course its a useful tool in our arsenal.
 

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Absolutely agree with the four categories.

1.) Physically ugly men- Also called incels.

2.) Physically Average men- Also called normies. (Slang for "normal" guy)

3.) Attractive but not strikingly handsome men - Also called Chadlites or Tyronelites.

4.) Strikingly Handsome men- Also called Chads/Tyrones.
 

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LOL thanks!
Currently homing in on a nurse of 42 - A slow-burner because of her job, she has to be very careful due to Covid... but she seems very keen so far... Last week she suggested we should 'up' the coffee date we had provisionally arranged to an evening date.
Looks very promising at this point :up:
Nurses are great. You won't be disappointed.
 

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We can also merge the two middle groups and simplify it.

Ugly men-almost never get attention from attractive women.

Normal looking men-Get a medium amount of attention from attractive women. Some hot women will find you attractive, but just as many will not. This is where most of us fall.

Exceptionally attractive looking men-Get positive attention by attractive looking women everywhere they go; even ones that are married. Somebody mentioned "The Rock ", Dwayne Johnson. He's a perfect example; how many guys look like that? 1 in 250?
 

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Okay, maybe I don't know what I am talking about.

Netflix has a pretty good German series called Barbarians, about the famous battle where the German Tribes defeated a much larger Roman Army in 9 A.D.

Anyway, the three main stars are listed below.

I was watching an interview with these three on youtube and reading the comments. Almost all the woman commented that they found Laurence Rupp (guy on the left) with the big nose more sexy and attractive than the more classically handsome David Schutter.

Laurence is certainly not an ugly guy, but more average. The woman in the show is very attractive. Have a look:
 

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