Ok fellows I am new to the board. I have a kind of unique situation that I have not been able to find addressed elsewhere on the site/boards. Here's the deal. There is a woman that I don't want to rule out completely if the opportunity ever presents itself again. I was in a relationship with her once before, but did a lot of stupid things. Of course, she had her contributions as well. The good thing when we split was that we maintained some kind of contact. However, I got anxious and played the wuss and told her how I still felt. She shot me down, but we still had some contact. Well stupid me played the wuss again several months later and this time not only got shot down, but she claimed she was seeing someone else and that it might be good if I only speak to her when we pass at church. Well, I realize now the needy thing didn't help my cause. I don't email her, call her, or stop by anymore, and have come to the realization it may never be. I also started dating lots of women. However, I still think this woman might would be a good catch if the opportunity ever came for another fling. My question is. I only see her at church (I never see this "other guy" and don't know if he really exists.) and when I pass her or whatever, I obviously don't want to be a wuss, but I don't want to be thought of as a jerk. Should I speak first? Or make her speak? After all, after all the things I did do well, she had the gall to be pretty harsh about the contact thing. I don't plan to be a wuss again, but don't want her to feel afraid to contact me if she has a change of heart. I bring women to church with me sometimes and competition doesn't seem to work. Did I just turn her off completely? You experienced Don Juaners please reply.