Forget everything you think you know ASAP.

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So instead of being a loser that doesn't get any women, you've read a few articles and learned a few pick-up lines and think women are demons sent from the twilight zone to target innocent, helpless men. Now everything is ok, right?

I will tell you how reading this stuff cost me my first attempt at getting laid and how I had to drop the generalizations and women-bashing.

So there I was, new to the field, dating a HB that looked like Courteney Cox, only 26, not 40. I was told by people on a neighboring pick-up site that I was being used for attention and money. Keep in mind I'm jobless, have no money to my name, and just decent to cute to some women, average and unattractive to other women, so in other words I'm no male model. But still, according to them, I was being strung along by an AW and should call her out on her behavior. So I tell her what's on my mind (or rather what I had been brainwashed by) and a week later she dumps me, saying that I was full of generalizations about women, paranoid, and what's going to happen if her and I have sex, am I going to accuse her of just wanting attention?

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying this woman is an angel. It's actually a good thing this happened because we weren't compatible at all and if we had had sex, I probably would have got attached and who knows what would have happened then. But I am saying that she wasn't an AW and that KJs that have probably never felt a breast before cost me a possible opportunity at losing my virginity to a Courteney Cox lookalike.

After a month or so of self-reflection and a change of beliefs...basically the decision to take it one woman at a time and not generalize them until they give a concrete reason to not be trusted...I went out in the field again and eventually lost my virginity to a HB that I dated for a few months.

Since then, I've been playing the field a little, just taking things as they come. And what I've found is, 99 percent of the stuff on this site is BS written by virgins in their parents basement. It's easy to read this site and others like it and a few David DeAngelo books and "think you know it all" without even having been on a date or seen a naked woman before other than your mother or sister, but until you actually get out there - and I don't mean going to clubs, asking a few girls to dance and getting rejected and saying "all women are *****es" - you have no idea how much overanalyzing is involved on pick up sites like this one.

Women aren't angels, but the number of actual gold-diggers/AWs/impossible to have a normal conversation with women are a small percentage. And why would you want to talk to such a woman anyway? Most likely for her looks, right? So what makes you worthy to talk to her, because you know a few corny pick-up lines and you've studied what jocks and alphas around you act? She can bang mostly any guy she wants, why would she chose your broke, wimp, wannabe a$$?

I don't agree with the current "looks are everything" thread, but I agree with the underlying point that this stuff is written by comic-book nerds or married men. Think about Rollo Tomassi for a second? He's 40 and married and gives advice like he's Hugh Hefner. Would a girl that wants to be more appealing to guys take advice from a woman that's out of her prime and been out of the game for years? Things changed since the 1980s when all you had to do was have poofy hair and sing Winger songs to seduce a woman.

Taking any advice on sites like this is dangerous because it is flawed, general information that can be easily challenged. Yes, hot women can be difficult, but not all for the same reasons. All women have a different story. And saying "All women do this, all women do that" is just making it harder for yourself because you think the woman is doing something that she isn't.

If you want to get laid or have a hot girlfriend, all you have to do is be a confident man. You don't need corny lines or to be James Bond or the center of attention. You just need to be the best you possible.
 

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You getting laid once does not exactly make you a guru. Good job though, that's better than being a virgin, but Rollo has forgotten more about girls than you know right now.

You are correct, though, in that merely reading seduction material and canned lines will not make a huge difference for most guys who are not good with girls. The difference comes in changing your life and being happy with yourself. I didn't come up with that idea, it has been on this site for years.
 

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I would add; they are like mirrors, if you show them you like them, some reason they start liking you. You just can't get caught up in them I think untill AFTER they get caught up in you. I don't fuvking know man, I have my own fuvking problems.
 

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Just out of morbid curiosity, how was what you were doing before you found the community working out for you?
 

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99 percent of the stuff on this site is BS written by virgins in their parents basement.
Here's a question... so you are claiming that you are the only person on this site who isn't a virgin in your parents house? So you lost ur cherry b!tch, what now? You think you are all high and mighty? Let me tell you something fvcker, YOU WERE A VIRGIN IN YOUR FVCKING BASEMENT READING THIS SH!T! Trust me, you are dead wrong on the above quote. This site is real, the other sites are bs. Everyone here shares their experiences/beliefs. If it wasnt for this site, you would probably still be a virgin so stfu.

After a month or so of self-reflection and a change of beliefs…
This is exactly what this site promotes... you arent supposed to listen to everyone as if they are directing you... you take in what you can and become your own person.

I will tell you how reading this stuff cost me my first attempt at getting laid and how I had to drop the generalizations and women-bashing.
You must make sacrifices to change. You stated above that you self-reflected and changed your beliefs... yet you complain that during this change process your "first attemtp at getting laid" was ruined... wahh wahh.

Let me tell you how it is bc fvckers like you annoy me. I am no "virgin in my parents basement", Im 26, have my masters degree in computer engineering, OWN MY OWN HOUSE, make more $$ than you will probably ever make, and have fvcked more woman already in my life than you probably ever will. I am a good lookin dude and have no issues with women what so ever (www.facebook.com/ausmurp is my facebook page, I am not afraid/ashamed to show who I am guys). I can honestly say that MOST woman can be generalized. The ones that cant are the ones you want to be with.

Dont come in the forums and insult the people who help you get laid for the first time lol. I think it is so funny that you have fvcked one girl and you think you are so knowledgeable all of the sudden.

Austin
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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And trust me, most of the guys around my age on this site can testify to the same exact sh!t that I just did.

Austin
 

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If you want to get laid or have a hot girlfriend, all you have to do is be a confident man. You don't need corny lines or to be James Bond or the center of attention. You just need to be the best you possible.
Dude I can bash you all day, you are clearly very young and not very intelligent. This site is about EXPERIENCES and does not promote "corny lines or to be James Bond ro the center of attention." Your advice "all you have to do is be confident man" and "you just need to be the best you possible" has been stated by our members here a thousand times over by now. We know this already, we do not need some 19 yr old freshman in college (or younger?) to tell us this stuff. In fact I think you should just hold your advice to your self bc I guarantee most of us here are not virgins and do not need it.

Austin
 

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Yeah I lold as well. And you seem to be new as well. I am sure you and him share similar beliefs/mindsets right now. Just read on into the site. Dont take advice, but become a happy person, and use the experiences you read about to learn... just be happy in life and work out to get cut/bigger. Read The Book of Pook... it is by far one of the most interesting things you will ever read. And pay close attention to the health forums, they are some of the best bc they promote real life experiences. Much better than the workout site forums... the guys here are telling the truth about sh!t, not trying to promote a product/technique. Trust me this website is one of the best websites out there.

Austin
 

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naa

I'm not noob lol

I do believe that a lot of things said by dating guru's and the like might be true for pick up in some situations, but a lot of it is just to make money. You really can't pigeon hole all women, but they way they are attracted tends to work the same way

I just pretty much apply certain things that go with my style and work with girls my way and I see pretty good results

I'm not getting laid like a champ or anything, but i do get laid and am generally improving my game
 

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I dont believe in most of the sh!t dating gurus say lol... but there are no dating gurus on this site, just real dudes tryin to live life happy and find woman. The sad thing is, most of the people trying the latter have not completed the first thing, live life happy... this is why they fail at the second thing.

Austin
 
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