For those who DO get girls. ONLY for those who do get it!

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mrRuckus said:
Or it's just a fad and a new style of music will come along and no one will care about that garbage anymore.
Sooo....wanna get anything off your chest, bud?
 

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Babnik said:
I can't transcend hornyness into words... Its a conversation stopper for me.
What if you see it as, the words are going to get you that pvssy.
Thus... succesfully achieve what your state wants.


jonwon said:
I love this right here:

It shows and displays confidence.
It shows good clear safe persistence, with correct approach with no innuendo, it was safe!
You opened it just having fun and chilling and chatting, no big deal.
You took advantage of the openings presented!
You went for it and got results.

But the best, you did not get phased by other guys coming on, you new inside you was the man and to me this is the frame that bagged this chic.

As soon as you walked in that pub/bar with that frame even if you did not score with this one, I know with that solid game you would have scored anyway.

Cool, calm, relaxed in your own skin, felt like the best man in the bar, social, no phased by anything and just having fun with it and not set out on a result.
Appreciated. You got the exact essence of this particular PU. Thats exactly how it all rolled out. MrRuckus below brings up, that who knew it was that frame... I could have been projecting it all this in speculation. Possibly. But... I know for a fvckin fact, it had an incredible effect on her. I remember the moment. I turned over, peeped him trying to chat her up. She became aware, that I was aware of the situation. And just as she became aware of that, she became aware of my internal response of "no sweat" (stonger frame). I could see her internal response to mine. Why? Cause the guy's game just crumbled after I looked over, and surveyed them. I could see my frame just crush, everything he had going. Now... I didn't have any hater feelings, I just had such strong feelings, knowing that anything he tried couldn't compare to what I already had flowing w. this chick. I could see he didn't have the inner attitudes/resources that I did about myself... thus had no worry. Let them continue their chat (which soon whithered) and went back to chatting w. my friend.

I think the that little incident of the night, definetly added value to my game. It was like the true litmis (sp?) test. Ok, he's cool, he has a lil suave, a little confidence... then that measured me against the potential threat of another man's measure... and I passed w. flying colors. Everything solidified for me. My value, my confidence, my security, etc.

JonWon, you write... you knew I would have scored anyway, w. that frame. Guess what... so did I, lol. Thats why the whole night went as suavely as it did, and I got the girl.

I'm glad you really saw, and understood the feeling of my role that night. It was a valuable learning experience to me... and it looks like you might have gleamed some light from it as well.


mrRuckus said:
I don't think you really knew any of this. You act like you know exactly what she's thinking and how every action you did affected her. You don't know. You're just guessing.

She could have thought nothing of it, was disinterested in him and went back to talking to you. You're just imagining her swooning up and being like WOW WHAT A MAN HE ISN'T THREATENED.. hell she could even be thinking oh look how he backed down or oh he's pretending he doesn't notice.. you don't know. She could've thought something bad and just chose to not care...

Your missing some crucial clarity, w. the hater vision.
First... do you mispercieve a girl's look of attraction to you? Maybe sometimes, but probably NOT. We all know how to clearly see whats up, in another. Just as I did this chick, reacting to my frame here. It was ridiculously apparent that she took the opportunity, to see it as a test against me. Come on... she's a fvckin chick. Of course she's going to guage my response of some other man talking to her.
Second... even if I did imagine that response, whats that say about my internal state anyway!? That I was of the exact frame I've expressed. Thus, how could that frame which I was now varafiably in, not have a positive impression on the girl, like I witnessed.
Third...Even if she thought something else, percieved it differently (which I know she didn't). Who's conversation fizzled after that incident? His and Hers. Who walked out w. her that night, and who ended up going for this kiss close on who. Who took her back to her hut, and ransackled her the following morning.

Your attempts of hate, are leading your arguments of faulty weak logic. Relax G'... I'm sure you've had many O' suave nights similar, where your powerful confident states resulted in similar outcomes.

You know as well as I... that this is how the game works. One look at another interaction, can destroy it, or turn it into holy-matrimony. Its all dependant upon the frame you view it in.


mrRuckus said:
Or it's just a fad and a new style of music will come along and no one will care about that garbage anymore.
OMG, lol... dude relax. I'm just speaking about the current state of affairs. Maybe its just a fad. Maybe another new style will come along. My point being... who the fock cares. Just calling it, like it is. Like in my situation. Like in the current popular music scene, etc.

I close quoting raiderz... lol. (well said)

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Sooo....wanna get anything off your chest, bud?
 

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I don't think you really knew any of this. You act like you know exactly what she's thinking and how every action you did affected her. You don't know. You're just guessing.

For example the whole thing about... " some guy came up and started to TRY and chat her up. I look over, peep his interaction w. her... and because my frame was so strong, I just go back to rapping w. my friend, knowing he doesn't have sh!t on me. In retrospect, this was powerful in her eyes." She could have thought nothing of it, was disinterested in him and went back to talking to you. You're just imagining her swooning up and being like WOW WHAT A MAN HE ISN'T THREATENED.. hell she could even be thinking oh look how he backed down or oh he's pretending he doesn't notice.. you don't know. She could've thought something bad and just chose to not care...
Why tell the kids theirs no Santa Clause ?? This close to Xmas too... jeez

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DarkLight, I completely agree with your analysis of that female...

I've had similar experiences. Where my game is running so strong, its just emanating out of my entire being. Where you feel like its a constant spotlight on you for the whole night and you can just feel girls shaking at the knees from it. The last time I can remember, I was talking to some broad who was the toast of the club (rejecting guys right and left) I won't go into particulars about how I got in, but the point is... after i was in...

Dudes kept coming up asking to buy drinks and i'm juss chilled out on the couch with my feet up, telling her to take the alchohol because i'm thirsty. She was actually using other guys to get ME drinks... and she was tooling them to me, "can u believe these guys, wat losers". I just sat on my thrown, king of that club and of that night... ended up hooking up with this girls cousin but thats another story... Lets just say I know that feeling, VERY WELL


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DarkLight said:
What if you see it as, the words are going to get you that pvssy.
Thus... succesfully achieve what your state wants.




Appreciated. You got the exact essence of this particular PU. Thats exactly how it all rolled out. MrRuckus below brings up, that who knew it was that frame... I could have been projecting it all this in speculation. Possibly. But... I know for a fvckin fact, it had an incredible effect on her. I remember the moment. I turned over, peeped him trying to chat her up. She became aware, that I was aware of the situation. And just as she became aware of that, she became aware of my internal response of "no sweat" (stonger frame). I could see her internal response to mine. Why? Cause the guy's game just crumbled after I looked over, and surveyed them. I could see my frame just crush, everything he had going. Now... I didn't have any hater feelings, I just had such strong feelings, knowing that anything he tried couldn't compare to what I already had flowing w. this chick. I could see he didn't have the inner attitudes/resources that I did about myself... thus had no worry. Let them continue their chat (which soon whithered) and went back to chatting w. my friend.

I think the that little incident of the night, definetly added value to my game. It was like the true litmis (sp?) test. Ok, he's cool, he has a lil suave, a little confidence... then that measured me against the potential threat of another man's measure... and I passed w. flying colors. Everything solidified for me. My value, my confidence, my security, etc.

JonWon, you write... you knew I would have scored anyway, w. that frame. Guess what... so did I, lol. Thats why the whole night went as suavely as it did, and I got the girl.

I'm glad you really saw, and understood the feeling of my role that night. It was a valuable learning experience to me... and it looks like you might have gleamed some light from it as well.




Your missing some crucial clarity, w. the hater vision.
First... do you mispercieve a girl's look of attraction to you? Maybe sometimes, but probably NOT. We all know how to clearly see whats up, in another. Just as I did this chick, reacting to my frame here. It was ridiculously apparent that she took the opportunity, to see it as a test against me. Come on... she's a fvckin chick. Of course she's going to guage my response of some other man talking to her.
Second... even if I did imagine that response, whats that say about my internal state anyway!? That I was of the exact frame I've expressed. Thus, how could that frame which I was now varafiably in, not have a positive impression on the girl, like I witnessed.
Third...Even if she thought something else, percieved it differently (which I know she didn't). Who's conversation fizzled after that incident? His and Hers. Who walked out w. her that night, and who ended up going for this kiss close on who. Who took her back to her hut, and ransackled her the following morning.

Your attempts of hate, are leading your arguments of faulty weak logic. Relax G'... I'm sure you've had many O' suave nights similar, where your powerful confident states resulted in similar outcomes.

You know as well as I... that this is how the game works. One look at another interaction, can destroy it, or turn it into holy-matrimony. Its all dependant upon the frame you view it in.




OMG, lol... dude relax. I'm just speaking about the current state of affairs. Maybe its just a fad. Maybe another new style will come along. My point being... who the fock cares. Just calling it, like it is. Like in my situation. Like in the current popular music scene, etc.

I close quoting raiderz... lol. (well said)

No, when I think that something I will do will get me something, when I expect something then it ALL crumbles.

There is that scene in 40 year old virgin movie where he approaches that random freaky chick at a book store and answers questions with questions reminds me of the "sexual state" but its just cheesy.

I know it doesn't work for me one bit. Its just not me.

But who cares anyway! If I can get p*ssy another way then what the hell!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Babnik said:
No, when I think that something I will do will get me something, when I expect something then it ALL crumbles.

There is that scene in 40 year old virgin movie where he approaches that random freaky chick at a book store and answers questions with questions reminds me of the "sexual state" but its just cheesy.

I know it doesn't work for me one bit. Its just not me.

But who cares anyway! If I can get p*ssy another way then what the hell!
Why do you have so much trouble getting girls, honestly? I havent read much of anything that you posted cause im not white and i cant respond. :rolleyes: But when it comes down to it i get more girls than you and im not thuggin, although i may be black. Disregard what i say but youre only hurting yourself. I think you expect way to much. You dont jump in the ring with Ali just because you think you can box. You also seem pretty uptight, like things must follow a certain agenda or else its a castatrophy. Just fvckin relax dude. Learn how to hold a conversation, with anyone, get some hobbies, work out, and most importantly chill out. Maybe you need some more testastarone flowing through your body. Stop putting the p*ssy on a pedestal. Talk to girls for the sake of getting to know a human being, while letting her know your attracted to her. Being playful is probably something else you need to work on. Oh yea, i get the impression that you think you a really smart guy, if you are great, stop analyzing and criticizing everything. Be like the water and flow.
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
Why do you have so much trouble getting girls, honestly? I havent read much of anything that you posted cause im not white and i cant respond. :rolleyes: But when it comes down to it i get more girls than you and im not thuggin, although i may be black. Disregard what i say but youre only hurting yourself. I think you expect way to much. You dont jump in the ring with Ali just because you think you can box. You also seem pretty uptight, like things must follow a certain agenda or else its a castatrophy. Just fvckin relax dude. Learn how to hold a conversation, with anyone, get some hobbies, work out, and most importantly chill out. Maybe you need some more testastarone flowing through your body. Stop putting the p*ssy on a pedestal. Talk to girls for the sake of getting to know a human being, while letting her know your attracted to her. Being playful is probably something else you need to work on. Oh yea, i get the impression that you think you a really smart guy, if you are great, stop analyzing and criticizing everything. Be like the water and flow.


I never met a girl thats interesting enough....

I met a girl who went to 10 countries and she couldn't say sh*t about what it was like...

Girls like to talk about non-sense and have small talks about nothing. Thats NOT interesting man. In fact, you don't get to know anything about the person like that.


I never said I don't get p*ssy. I want to get MORE of it!
 

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Babnik said:
I never met a girl thats interesting enough....

I met a girl who went to 10 countries and she couldn't say sh*t about what it was like...

Girls like to talk about non-sense and have small talks about nothing. Thats NOT interesting man. In fact, you don't get to know anything about the person like that.


I never said I don't get p*ssy. I want to get MORE of it!
If someone didnt tell you how their experiences were, they might not be comfortable talking with you about them.
 

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Cod3r said:
DarkLight, I completely agree with your analysis of that female...

I've had similar experiences. Where my game is running so strong, its just emanating out of my entire being... Lets just say I know that feeling, VERY WELL

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I can tell. What you described is exactly it!
Now before more haters try to twist sh!t w. poor logic... let me clarify that such nights aren't my everynight experience. I just happened to be owning the room that night. The othernight, I got in a pissy lil tiff, w. this model. Pretty funny actually... we both ended up doing pantomime of eachother. Anyways, I enjoyed it cause of the fact... that I could care less. Having earned that level of response-ability... pleases me just about as much as having dunked my d!ck in her. (alright... not as much, but close to)

Anyways... the magic of such nights, just happens one step at a time. I walked in the bar in a positive strong frame. Caught the little opportunity that presented itself. Caught another, caught another. Thats half the battle. Just ceasing opportunities. Thus the value of approaching... YOUR CREATING THE OPPORTUNITIES. From there on out... just being a cool cat, w. some confidence is enough to waltz you into the next stage of things.

Babnik-
Yo... bottom line, do whatever works for you.
But... it seems you do have sh!t definetly confused here and there. So opening up to some other angles, advice is value. Heed it.

In regards to that 40 yr. old virgin analogy, being cheezy. Look at the outcome. He got some smoking blonde horny as fvck and ready to go in a minute. Granted its just a comedy movie, but if its good enough a point for you to use... then so will I.

Flirting sometimes is cheezy. But if your presenting it in the light of... "Yes, I know this is cheezy, But I'm cool enough and confident enough to still play and have fun" alls good. Sometimes flirting is indirect. Sometimes its direct. Sometimes its you chasing her, sometimes its her chasing you. Its A-Z man... you need to open up, forget your limits and definitions, understand that game is game (white/black/asian), and peep some new vistas. I can only hope your being here... is for that exact reason. Now fully ignowledge that, and capitalize!

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DarkLight said:
I can tell. What you described is exactly it!
Now before more haters try to twist sh!t w. poor logic... let me clarify that such nights aren't my everynight experience. I just happened to be owning the room that night. The othernight, I got in a pissy lil tiff, w. this model. Pretty funny actually... we both ended up doing pantomime of eachother. Anyways, I enjoyed it cause of the fact... that I could care less. Having earned that level of response-ability... pleases me just about as much as having dunked my d!ck in her. (alright... not as much, but close to)

Anyways... the magic of such nights, just happens one step at a time. I walked in the bar in a positive strong frame. Caught the little opportunity that presented itself. Caught another, caught another. Thats half the battle. Just ceasing opportunities. Thus the value of approaching... YOUR CREATING THE OPPORTUNITIES. From there on out... just being a cool cat, w. some confidence is enough to waltz you into the next stage of things.

Babnik-
Yo... bottom line, do whatever works for you.
But... it seems you do have sh!t definetly confused here and there. So opening up to some other angles, advice is value. Heed it.

In regards to that 40 yr. old virgin analogy, being cheezy. Look at the outcome. He got some smoking blonde horny as fvck and ready to go in a minute. Granted its just a comedy movie, but if its good enough a point for you to use... then so will I.

Flirting sometimes is cheezy. But if your presenting it in the light of... "Yes, I know this is cheezy, But I'm cool enough and confident enough to still play and have fun" alls good. Sometimes flirting is indirect. Sometimes its direct. Sometimes its you chasing her, sometimes its her chasing you. Its A-Z man... you need to open up, forget your limits and definitions, understand that game is game (white/black/asian), and peep some new vistas. I can only hope your being here... is for that exact reason. Now fully ignowledge that, and capitalize!

Peace'

I can't picture myself having that "Yeah babe... *wink*" emotion and attitude....thats just...SO funny to me...
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Babnik said:
I can't picture myself having that "Yeah babe... *wink*" emotion and attitude....thats just...SO funny to me...
LMAO... your making it cheezy.
Have you never seen anyone flirt w. a chick in a sexual vibe, yet being suave!?

It confounds me, how you can't imagine such a situation.
What do you do?

Since your such a movie buff, why don't you go rent a few classics.
Some pimp sh!t, where the dude swoops her in sexual flirting... all the while SUAVE.

Peace'
 

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^ ^ Babnik is still in the stage where he's too proud to accept that he dosen't know everything.. save ur time, he'll come to you when he's ready


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Babnik said:
I never met a girl thats interesting enough....

I met a girl who went to 10 countries and she couldn't say sh*t about what it was like...

Girls like to talk about non-sense and have small talks about nothing. Thats NOT interesting man. In fact, you don't get to know anything about the person like that.


I never said I don't get p*ssy. I want to get MORE of it!
So what exactly DO you do to get these alleged girls?
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
So what exactly DO you do to get these alleged girls?

I just talk to them and tease them and I see how they react. Like, if a girl just starts replying as if it was casual conversation and is being serious, not sarcastic after a few tries of flirting then I stop.

If they get the picture, they start the whole vibe as well.

I mean, I can differentiate between flirting and just talking, but by any means I don't get horny. Its in the tone of the voice, in the way you say it and in the way she says it. Its just playful and you can tell....but not horny, no....

However, I do wonder...how to make regular conversations into flirty ones with girls who just talk... I guess I can't get them ALL interested.

I think I see some light here. Usually its me who approaches girls and etc. but its THEM who start the whole seductive look and voice tone...not me.
They are the ones who transcend it to me and I am the one who follows. I need to learn how to start and transcend that feeling onto THEM. Be the leader.


I guess it may have to do something with having balls too. Approaching like you want nothing but a friendly talk is easy, but approaching with the mindset of seduction is quite different. It works for me though when I JUST want to talk and often girls themselves will start being sexual.

Yeah, now that I am typing this I understand what you're talking about, DarkLight.

Man, these girls do have bigger balls... Its just when a girl comes on to me herself, she is real light and easy with touching me right upon meeting me and give hugs and flirts. So easy and natural.

I can't just jerk their hands off and act rejectful. I do it nicely but directly if I have to (if I don't like her).

However, in MY experiences girls are a lot MEANER when they reject that sexual vibe. So, I end up restricting myself and feeling like its something that doesn't work for me (but it works just fine for those girls who approach me!).

But then again there were countless times of me just having a normal conversation, no vibe, nothing at all and they go "You're so cute" and then we make out...
 

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^ ^ Babnik is still in the stage where he's too proud to accept that he dosen't know everything.. save ur time, he'll come to you when he's ready


-Cod3r

Probably right.
Include Nasman to that list. lol

Peace'
 

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Dude to tell you the truth treat these girls the same as you would an average girl. If you treat them differently u are going to get all AFC on them and screw everything up.
 

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Babnik? you r the most stupid guy! JUST act normal... **** these games? i was like for them"omg, soo cute he is, he has a pretty face" i got all the girls on me.. but you know what? I played with them. I ****ed them and then ignored them.. after that all of my girlfriends started to ignored me...! and now i have quited this stupid games.. now i have every girls on me!! the only thing that helped me is the conversation skillz!


IF you have a UGLY face.. then its not worth trying!! AND the race has nothing to do with attraction! just look at Jesscia Alba.. shes black or half black.. rihanna is black..
 

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Sacrifice said:
Babnik? you r the most stupid guy! JUST act normal... **** these games? i was like for them"omg, soo cute he is, he has a pretty face" i got all the girls on me.. but you know what? I played with them. I ****ed them and then ignored them.. after that all of my girlfriends started to ignored me...! and now i have quited this stupid games.. now i have every girls on me!! the only thing that helped me is the conversation skillz!


IF you have a UGLY face.. then its not worth trying!! AND the race has nothing to do with attraction! just look at Jesscia Alba.. shes black or half black.. rihanna is black..
I dunno WTF you just said...they said you have a cute face and you played games with them and f8cked them and then stopped playing games? HUH?
 

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