For those of you disillusioned with women...

sstype

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Its really easy to go in a women-hating frenzy. I have done it myself. I would act cold and indifferent towards them. I would moan about how fycked up our society was (read my previous posts) I became aloof and arrogant. I was putting my ego up in hopes that people (and women) would respect me.

But it left me no better than it did before.

Bitterness is not going to attract anyone. I realize that it takes more balls and maniless to accept women and their behaviors. I am not saying let them step all over you. But whenever they do their little tests, like not returning phone calls, acting flakey, etc...we should not just give up and say "NEXT!" and be pissed off at how flakey they are. We need to understand that women are also emotionally insecure as well. They may have hordes of guys attracted to her, but all that does is inflate her ego. It does not provide her with any security, whatsoever.

In fact, it makes her even more insecure because she is constantly put on a pedestal by all these guys she knows. She has to deal with creepy older guys, immature guys that act like jerkoffs to her just b/c they assume she is one as well, and guys that try to ignore her in hopes that she will come to them.

She very rarely ever gets to meet a true "DJ." A guy who literally sweeps her off her feet. A guy who is sincere with a backbone. He makes her feel like gold every time she is around him, without going overboard. He shows a genuine interest in her, but does not mask it by acting like a jerk or a pushover.

my advise is, deal with flakey behavior. she uses it to weed out all the sex-starved guys who only care about fycking her. Show her that you are interested in her as a person, and when she begins to trusts you, smoothly transistion to the close.

There is much truth in that saying "the key to a woman's pants, is her heart"
 
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There is much truth in that saying "the key to a woman's pants, is her heart"

you will never get thats accross here.

then again since its you saying it and not me


maybe you will....
 

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im sure it will. I use to be a "woman-basher" as well.

but i am not advocating the total opposite. I am not saying praise their behaviors, just learn to accept and work around them. Patience is the key
 
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true man you have to accept women as they are, love em or leave em. put it in the bible yo.
 

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There is no need to be bitter, but then again, who has weeks to spend on one girl?

The bottom line is, if I *feel* that things are just going too slow, that's when it's time to look elsewhere.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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Originally posted by guitaronfire411
There is no need to be bitter, but then again, who has weeks to spend on one girl?

The bottom line is, if I *feel* that things are just going too slow, that's when it's time to look elsewhere.
yeah, youre right. I would give a chick three chances and if she flakes out each time then she probably is not interested in being with me and its time to move on.

Then again, you could always have more than one prospect at any given time so even if girl A isnt vibing you, you could always call up girl B, or girl C.
 

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Some things I agree and others I don’t.

Your right when you say bitterness doesn’t attract people.

However you sound like your giving woman excuses for playing games and being flaky.

So what are you saying for the Frustrated guy?

Accept her BS?


Oh and what makes you think the women people are after have tons of guys worshiping her?

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Why waste your time if she’s being flaky. There are billions of other girls out there that more willing then her. Persistence is all right but eventually she has to give and the games have to stop.


To me my time is valuable. I don’t have time for a woman’s BS.

1 call 2 call maybe three and its NEXT.

But hey everybody’s got different rules and that’s good for them.

But telling everybody to just deal, accept with her BS is a key to success is wrong.

Also a key to woman’s pants is not always her heart. A couple of martinis, some laughs, Kino, mavec, and your in. Money works as well too.

Besides haven’t you heard treat them mean to keep them keen?

Are women insecure yeah

But Insecurities ARE NOT an excuse to be flaky with you.



When we were AFC we had insecurities and it got us no where so we had to change to become more successful.

So why is it ok to accept it when a woman uses that as an excuse?
 

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Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
Some things I agree and others I don’t.

Your right when you say bitterness doesn’t attract people.

However you sound like your giving woman excuses for playing games and being flaky.

So what are you saying for the Frustrated guy?

Accept her BS?


Oh and what makes you think the women people are after have tons of guys worshiping her?

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Why waste your time if she’s being flaky. There are billions of other girls out there that more willing then her. Persistence is all right but eventually she has to give and the games have to stop.


To me my time is valuable. I don’t have time for a woman’s BS.

1 call 2 call maybe three and its NEXT.

But hey everybody’s got different rules and that’s good for them.

But telling everybody to just deal, accept with her BS is a key to success is wrong.

Also a key to woman’s pants is not always her heart. A couple of martinis, some laughs, Kino, mavec, and your in. Money works as well too.

Besides haven’t you heard treat them mean to keep them keen?

Are women insecure yeah

But Insecurities ARE NOT an excuse to be flaky with you.



When we were AFC we had insecurities and it got us no where so we had to change to become more successful.

So why is it ok to accept it when a woman uses that as an excuse?
that is fine for you. Just dont be so quick to next unless you are certain she is not interested in you. if she really likes you, she may be playing hard to get just like you are.

Why not just go for it instead of playing head games with eachother?
 

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Originally posted by sstype
that is fine for you. Just dont be so quick to next unless you are certain she is not interested in you. if she really likes you, she may be playing hard to get just like you are.

Why not just go for it instead of playing head games with eachother?
I subscribe to this particular way of dealing with girls. However, I do understand that different people have different levels of determining when to give up. We next when we believe it is a lost cause. But how one comes to that conclusion depends a lot on how we individually perceive the signs of 'no interest'.

I would always encourage you to get flaked 4 times in a row, get LJBF, get called a creepy freak or get "never in a million years and not even if you were the only guy alive when that time comes". At least you know for a certain fact that you ain't what she's looking for at that time.

The question now is whether you can personally handle getting rejected or would you rather avoid it. Once you get rejected numerous times, it really isn't that bad. Unless of course you're trying your best to be the guy that almost every girl desires.
 

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Good points...

But the real question is does she deserve a DJ? I mean does she really...

I guess it's easy to write off women's mind games and trying to control you simply by saying it's societies fault, the way they are treated by wimps and losers etc.

I've heard this excuse many times before. Mostly from people who refused to take responsibility for their own actions.

Flakey women who play lots of games and think they have the right to attempt to control you, manipulate you and spin you around her finger NEED to take responsibility for their own actions. They cannot simply rely on the fact that if you are a real man you will not bend to their wishes and discard it as a test. No it's their responsibility and if they make bad choices it's their responsibility to deal with them, learn and move on.

These are not ladies, these are insecure little brats pounding their feet and fist because everyone refuses to give them what they want on a silver platter. They do not appreciate the rewards of hard work and accomplishment and frankly they have no respect for anyone.

Insecurities are no excuse, social conditioning is NOT an excuse and being a women is sure as hell not an excuse.

Great men deserve great women. Great men earn great women. No DJ should ever make do with a flakey, manipulative, insecure little brat.

Women that play games end up in my trash bin and there is a lot going that way. I don't feel like bartering my self worth and pride for sex and i don't think anyone ever should. Simply because we are the hunters does not make it so we cannot chose who we wish to be with. I have no desire to make up where a parent failed or spend my life trying to teach someone how to have honour, decency and respect. I've put foot to ass the extent of my lifetime to gain insight into these things and I'm not about to sell myself way below market value. If that means i exclude 90% of the global population, then i can only reason it is meant to be that way.

Do i hate flakey women? No, not at all. I simply understand the truth behind them and that is that they are the impersonation of everything i have struggled to change about myself. Does this make me bitter? No, it gives me confidence in myself that i make the right decisions.

That is the real question that is on my mind... are they worth it? With every women i have been with so far i have asked this question and with every women i have been with so far i have had to answer it with a no... some were sweet, others were hardworking. All desirable traits but in the end their flaws became a thorn in my side. There is only one woman i have ever wanted to commit to and i left it for what it was because i realized she didn't need a lover, but a father.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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i think you just need to sit down and decide exactally what flakiness you can accept from people in general

if you do what you need to do to improve your confidence, you will be able to be more indifferent to other's flakiness. make sure you are a busy guy so being busy is a real reason to not contact the person as much, it's not personal, it is just time constaints


for me putting a girl on the backburner isnt a problem because what can she do?

this "NEXT" philosophy leads to more instant gratification and less fullfillment

now if you arent happy with yourself, you will be affected by her flakiness and it would be a good idea to NEXT her so you can take a break and work on YOU
 
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