For the unattractive guys

[Don Donovan]

Originally posted by GropeDope
Seriously...wtf is the point of this thread?
I usually ignore utterly useless threads like this one, but I'm hoping the flaming I'm about to bestow upon his a$$ will be for the better so he doesn't make the same mistake next time.



There must be a lot more dumb mother f*ckers posting on this place than there used to be... or threads like these wouldn't be created.

I just want to know if anyone here is actually stupid enough to believe that a post like this one could be informative to its targeted audience.

This is what the problem is with this forum these days. We got too many dumb mother f*ckers creating threads that do nothing but point out the painfully obvious, and then they feel all sophisticated and sh*t after doing so. What's even more amazing is that other people actually follow up with positive replies to the trash instead of allowing the pathetic thing to die. :crackup:



It's pretty funny that The Forms describes his "unattractive guy" as a pot-faced 400 pound whale. That's pretty helpful, eh? He makes it sound like only lazy couch potato low lifes are the ones who can do anything to help themselves. That's pure genius right there.

So the dudes who are built, have clean skin, groom themselves and dress well, but have rugged faces that just aren't pleasing to the eye, are just plain old f*cked then I guess? What's his answer for that? Oh wait I forgot...he has none.

All this post really does is insults people like that for having bad genes. They didn't do anything wrong. They just got the shorter end of the stick in the looks department. They're not going to gain anything by reading this sh*t.

To top it off, he writes:




So if he can't help them...wtf is he writing all this for? I mean the subject of the thread is 'for the unattractive guys' and all I'm seeing is that he insults them here and attempts to make them feel worse for not looking like the little pretty boys. :cheer:



Wow. Now that's a f*ckin news flash right there for everyone! :kick:



Are you a f*ckin tool bro? Seriously...do you honestly think that the majority of unattractive dudes tell themselves, "girls don't like me because i'm not confident" instead of "girls don't like me cause i have an ugly face"? Most have a hard enough time getting past their looks to even reach the point of worrying about their confidence level. We're trying to show them that if they can see past that crap and become confident with themselves, they can become more successful with females. Of course, then idiots like you always come along and try to preach the exact opposite mentality. :box:

This thread doesn't help anyone and is filled with pointless bullsh*t that everyone and their mother already knows. It boosts the attractive male's outlook, and does absolute sh*t for the unattractive dude, only adding insult to injury.

For the unattractive guys: remember...it could always be worse. I mean, you could be idiotic enough to create a thread like this one while believing that this information was actually new and helpful to somebody.

Whow dude...I'm what you'd called an 'unattractive dude' (or a "super deformed" guy. According to some here there's no distinction apparently lol) and his post didn't offend me.

So it's obvious stuff for most people.Ok. But then, maybe there's a guy out there that read the post and thought: "Hmm. Never thought about it that way.Make sense." So it's not necessarily pointless who knows.

 

[ForbesLtd]

The best way is to accept reality (which can be very difficult) AND - which is the more important and even more difficult - to learn to cope with it.

However, the good news is: It possible.

And, the very good news is: If you once reach that point you don't even care about being "ugly" (face it), not because you're trying to be blind, but because you face your "fear" and realize it's not all that important. Deal with your complexes and hang-ups instead of trying to ignore them by wishful thinking. Because dealing with 'em is the best way to kill them "by the roots" (don't know the proper english expression) and to really abolish them.

And you'll feel good. Very good. Life is simply wonderful for you, and that's what you'll be exuding. And then beware of the myriads of girls approaching YOU!

 

[Don Donovan]

Originally posted by ForbesLtd
The best way is to accept reality (which can be very difficult) AND - which is the more important and even more difficult - to learn to cope with it.

However, the good news is: It possible.




And, the very good news is: If you once reach that point you don't even care about being "ugly" (face it), not because you're trying to be blind, but because you face your "fear" and realize it's not all that important. Deal with your complexes and hang-ups instead of trying to ignore them by wishful thinking. Because dealing with 'em is the best way to kill them "by the roots" (don't know the proper english expression) and to really abolish them.

And you'll feel good. Very good. Life is simply wonderful for you, and that's what you'll be exuding. And then beware of the myriads of girls approaching YOU!

Good one In all seriousness though.Nah they won't approach you any more than they did before. And that's also something you have to deal with instead of deluding yourself

You know, if an unattractive dude only learns to accept himself as he is in the hopes that it will make him more popular then he really hasn't learn anything. This is something you do for yourself, not to attract girls because ultimately it won't work.
This is something that was discussed before: It doesn't matter how confident you are or what your personality is if you aren't up to her standard physically. Those things matter only after she find you reasonably attractive. Yes, girls are "emotional creatures". And guess what, what triggers their emotions is *gasp!* physical attraction! (well among other things but it's a big part of the picture)

That being said, if someone wants to waste his time on a MB listening to condescending people, well be my guest lol. The point is, there are other things in life than scoring chicks. Focus your energy on something else.

 

[smoke city]

this whole thread, and especially the post that started it, is COMPLETELY POINTLESS GARBAGE. I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading it and 2 minutes writing this damn post. you clowns owe me 7 minutes.

 

[ForbesLtd]

Originally posted by Don Donovan

You know, if an unattractive dude only learns to accept himself as he is in the hopes that it will make him more popular then he really hasn't learn anything. This is something you do for yourself, not to attract girls because ultimately it won't work.

I think I'm getting your point. You mean if a guy who's not really pretty (to put it mildly) thinks, confidence is all he needs to get the real hot girls - then, in fact, he simply has not coped with his hang-up yet.
Deep in his heart, he - who thinks so - hasn't accepted the fact he's, well, ugly (and yes, it is a FACT - face it! sorry to be cruel, but it's better to be lieing).
That's what I mean, to ACCEPT it is the most difficult thing - but the ONLY way to make things easier without cheating on oneself.

Bear in mind: "accepting" does NOT mean resigning (in a negative way) or becoming depressive.

"accepting" in my understanding means rather to come to terms with oneself, focus on your strength (this is very important!), but don't deny your weak points - well, accept them.
Know what I mean? Takes a LOT of strength of will, though - so, if you've reached that calm assurance once and came to terms with yourself, it shows that you do have this strength of will - which is another "bonus" you might tick off on your quality list.

So then one should focus on other things in life. Okay, I agree.
But then, this is a seducing website.
I didn't mean you suddenly become a girls magnet when you manage this "accepting thing", however it is surely MUCH BETTER than feeling endless sorry for your bad looks or - the other bad way - ignoring it.

And that positive attitude will attract more women - again, I do not say, you'll become a CHICK MAGNET, but your chances will rise.

 

[ForbesLtd]

Originally posted by smoke city
this whole thread, and especially the post that started it, is COMPLETELY POINTLESS GARBAGE. I wasted 5 minutes of my life reading it and 2 minutes writing this damn post. you clowns owe me 7 minutes.

First of all, you found at least SOME interest in the topic, otherwise you wouldn't have read the whole thread or even answered.

Second, posts like "this is garbage" without even explaining why are the most garbage it gets.

I think every thought - regardless how stupid it may seem to be - is worth considering - if only to be recognized as being garbage and then being dropped with a reason.

I'm not meaning to offend you - but could it be this thread hurt you in some ways? Because it tore you out of your beautiful "wishful thinking"-world of "with confidence, the ugliest guy will date Angelina Jolie sooner or later"?

 

[Don Donovan]

All right man, keep believing into that confidence thing if it makes you feel better. Dunno what to say to you.

If you, or anyone else wants to delude themselve that's fine with me. But I think I'll pass.

[snip long condenscending post]

 

[Don Donovan]

Originally posted by ForbesLtd
First of all, you found at least SOME interest in the topic, otherwise you wouldn't have read the whole thread or even answered.

Second, posts like "this is garbage" without even explaining why are the most garbage it gets.

I think every thought - regardless how stupid it may seem to be - is worth considering - if only to be recognized as being garbage and then being dropped with a reason.

I'm not meaning to offend you - but could it be this thread hurt you in some ways? Because it tore you out of your beautiful "wishful thinking"-world of "with confidence, the ugliest guy will date Angelina Jolie sooner or later"?

Dude, where in his post did he ever mentionned that he believed that confidence was all-powerful or that ugly guys could score Hot chick?? Seriously, where did you get all that?

I think you may be the one with issues here...

 

[sstype]

Its all about your social value. Be seen with hot women and you will be desired by all hot women. High status girls seek high status males.

In general, high status males are generally the more attractive looking ones.

The skinny bloke that could pull any chicks. Same with the overweight guy with acne

They all have one thing in common, high social value. People want to be seen/associate with them based on that alone in hopes their own value will raise. Chicks and guys.

Can a more attractive face and body help? Hell yes, that is what the gym is for. Social status trumps everything though, attractive or not.

Remember, society is the book of women.

 

[Soprano]

use every single one of your physical features to your advantage and you'll do OK...

like the one guy said about his biceps turning girls on etc.

 

[The Forms]

The social value thing is important. I'm not saying that it isn't.

However, you can't always demonstrate social value to a girl everytime you meet one. For instance. . .

COLD APPROACHES

So you're unattractive, but you're a seriously cool dude. You have all the friends in the world, everybody loves you, and will tell any girl that. You're the Disk Jockey in the hippest club in town and everybody loves to see you spin. That's all well and good until you meet a girl that doesn't know any of this.

You meet a girl in the supermarket, and she doesn't know any of this. If you just tell her, "oh, baby, I'm so cool. I'm the DJ at the hippest club in town blah blah blah. . . " and she's unimpressed. She doesn't go to clubs.

The social value thing doesn't really work on cold approaches. If you're alone and you meet a girl who's alone you can't just go on and brag about how great you are. Girls find this to be arrogant because you're qualifying for her and and trying to impress her with how great you are.

You're not supposed to do that, right?

So Social Value is important, but you'll find yourself in a situation where you can't really demonstrate it for a girl.

Now, for the guy who got enraged about the 400 lb behemoth example:

See, I was using a device called "hyperbole." Hyperbole is when you exagerate something to make a point. It is commonly used in counterexamples.

For instance, if someone were to say, "confidence is all that matters," then one could respond, "but what about this guy who's 400 lbs? If he's confident enough with a lady, will she look past his appearance and likely health issues?"

And then you alter your "confidence is all that matters" argument to address the issue of the fat guy.

But, in the end, all I'm trying to get across is I've met a lot of guys who think that if they look horrid, are overweight, and lack a lot of the core qualities women are looking for, but they are confident, then women will be all over them just the same.

But it doesn't work that way. So if you have some of these issues, don't pretend that confidence will negate them. It doesn't.

If you fix the problems, then you will have an easier time with the ladies. So quit fighting reality. You'll probably be a happier guy if you look better anyway.

 

[tmpgstx]

Some good points.

She's either attracted to you physically in the beginning or not. If there is no natural attraction, there never will be.

Alot of people forget that when they see overweight guys with 'hot' women that they were once in shape. They only got over-weight because they got comfortable and have their 'trophy' girlfriend or whatever you want to label it.

Some girls with serious issues will blow any guy - to them it's not about attraction and more about acceptance.

Bottom line, in order to attract quality athletic girls you yourself for the most part have to be at least the same.

Believe me, i know. I went from being in really good shape to balooning up to 270. The last two years i have worked very hard and have 'washboard' abs and am big and ripped like a body-builder. Before getting over-weight, i already had a really good build, but getting it back was a big challenge. One thing that i can say proudly have taken on the challenge and have become successful.

Get out there and do it if you're overweight or to skinny. Work hard and always improve. Don't worry about anyone else. Do it for you.

 

[HustlerDigital]

Hmm this post isnt SOOO bad as some are making it to be. It at least opens up the floor for people to express thier views and then others agree/disagree with them.

Lets flip the script.... When us guys go out to "pick-up" girls.. what are we looking for? Sex? Head? Attention?? Gf???

Really though.. it all depends on what you want and need.. and then it all depends on the girl that your trying to get it from. I sure as hell know when Im looking for sex...or a relationship.. I want it to be from the sexiest girl in the room.. and then i want to put my arm around it and say LOOK AT WHAT I GOT! But obvisiouly if its an ugly chick who anyone would go home with that night.. she can put them lips around my ****.

Lets be honest...when we look at girls we want the best. I sure as hell didnt ever come up to a group of hot chicks and then go for the average one because she has a "great personality".. or she had rich parents and is the VP at some bank.

It all varies and is different but the simple mindset above is true for both men and women. When a girl comes into a room and looks around....shes sees guys she likes....MAYBE go to the next level... theres guys she would hump and be ok with it.. and theres guys who she would never touch!!! EVER!! The simple fact that the chick is confident/secure etc etc and has a certain thing she wants or needs determines what will happen. She might say in her head "Yea.. hed be a good lay.. hes so cute" but really she never would unless he treated her right etc. Some insecure chick would say "Yea..id lay him" and 10 mins later is in the back room gettin smoked. Now on the other hand.. that same girl who was just saying Id F him..and never would.. would say to the average guy.."what do you have to offer". She knows that the sexy dude has laid tons of women and will treat her like a dog toy .. While this average guy.. knows what hes doing.. seems nice.. and would probably treat her pretty damn good. It all varies..

Basically to sum it up... Looks do matter.. and looks dont matter.. DEPENDING on the girl and the situation. In the end.. it all comes down to needs and wants. And really I could throw out so many more examples but i have no time right now...and sure you get the jist of what im saying.