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The purpose of this thread is to refute the generally accepted 'fact' that nice guys don't get anywhere. Any of you who claim this are incorrect. I don't dispute that your way works, but it seems to be very difficult for you to imagine that there may be more than one way to be successful. I guess you guys call these 'field reports'. I will call them 'field experiences' since they happened in the past. All are true and all resulted from being nice to girls. No girls got pissed off in the process and every one of them will still talk to me to this day with no hard or awkward feelings. I don't think that many of you who go around hurting feelings and 'taking what a man should' can say the same. In addition to the following experiences, there have been numerous times when I have had pvssy flat out offered to me and I turned it down. That is just not the path that I have chosen to follow.

1. There was a pretty good looking girl that I used to work with at an old job. I was always polite, and a gentleman towards her. The closest thing to being rude to her would be playing practical jokes every now and then, but I did that to everyone that I worked with. One night, I was in the office counting money and she came up to speak with me. I don't remember the conversation, but it wasn't overly sexual. A few minutes later, she had my d1ck in her hands giving me a hand job til I busted on the floor and then she cleaned it up and went back to work.

2. Same job, different girl. Again, I was in the office counting money. This is important-I was never sexual or flirtatious with her. We were good friends and I was always nice to her. She tells me that she heard I was a good kisser and wants to know if she can find out. I tell her yes and we start to make out. Soon, she pulls out my d1ck and goes down on me until I busted a nut on her face.

3. I got off of work one night. It was my birthday. I called a girl that I was friends with to see if she wanted to hang out for a little while. We had never been sexual and never talked about it either. She meets me outside of work and I asked her what she wanted to do. She flat out told me she wanted to go somewhere and make out. So we did. She ends up taking out my d1ck and giving me a hand job in my truck.

4. Another night when I got off of work, I picked a girl up that had wanted to hang out with me. I used to have a fake ID and she wanted something to drink. I went and got something for each of us and we parked at a local park and just talked about stuff. Not sure how it happened, but she started giving me head. I blew my load in the back of her throat and she swallowed like a pro. About a week later, we got together and I bought her some lunch. After lunch, we decided to go and park. We made out, I sucked her tits and she jerked me off.

5. This one girl liked Rod Stewart. There was a concert a couple hours away. I surprised her with tickets. I drove her up there in my truck, bought her some stuff at the mall, and bought her dinner before the concert. We enjoyed it and then drove home. On the way home, she gave me awesome road head and guess what...she swallowed too. I got MANY bjs from her at different times after that.

6. Took a girl to a cabin in the mountains. We went out to dinner to the tune of $75 on my dime. Hit it doggy style 4 times that night and 16 times that week.

There's more, but I am drawing a blank trying to remember. The point is, being nice works, contrary to what many others say.

I am currently in a LTR with an awesome girl. I have no problem with sex...It's much easier to be in a good monogamous relationship than to have to go out looking for girls to hook up with like you guys talk about. Pump and dump isn't the way to go. In a relationship, you know each other and you know what each other wants and needs. If you are concerned about banging large #s of chicks, just remember this- quality beats quantity. You get quality of sex in a steady relationship.

Get in a relationship with a good girl and treat her well. It will pay off HUGE for you. Trust me.

BTW, on a similar note, when is the last time you beat your meat? Just so you know, I can't remember the last time I had to. ;)
 

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Yes its completely possible for a nice guy to get laid.

The only difference between you and me is I dont pay for sex.
 

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Five To One said:
Yes its completely possible for a nice guy to get laid.

The only difference between you and me is I dont pay for sex.
In 1-4, he doesn't spend a cent.

I just found this great article, apparently written by a woman, that COMPLETELY reveals the flaws of the so-called "nice guy."

Google - Nice Guys (Click on the first result.)

The main point of this article: GET RID of your insecurities, ESPECIALLY ones involving women and dating.
 

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Five To One said:
Yes its completely possible for a nice guy to get laid.

The only difference between you and me is I dont pay for sex.
I spent money because I wanted to. That trip to the mountains was for my enjoyment as well, not just for her. The concert, well, that wasn't for my enjoyment, but I just wanted to do something nice for her. If something happened, great, if not I would still have the internal satisfaction of knowing that I made her happy.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What kind of place did you work at? And what was your job there?
 
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eaglez1177 said:
What kind of place did you work at? And what was your job there?
I was one of the night team leaders at a fast food place.
 

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YogurtSlinger said:
I spent money because I wanted to. That trip to the mountains was for my enjoyment as well, not just for her. The concert, well, that wasn't for my enjoyment, but I just wanted to do something nice for her. If something happened, great, if not I would still have the internal satisfaction of knowing that I made her happy.
Alright pretty good answer.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. Cant say one way is better than another as long as its what you like to do.
 

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Be careful with this post, because the post can be very misleading to beginners. I guarantee that a few of the newer people WILL read this and correlate the post with "Well, if I buy them stuff, I'll get handjobs and *******s".

You don't address the core of your individual situation.

You are saying nice guys can get just as much action.
And who said nice guys DON'T get action?

I think this website makes a clear distinction between nice guys and AFC's. Two different things. From reading your OP, you can tell that Yogurt's stance is more of a passive approach towards women, but when on the actual date, he goes in for the kill and gets what he wants.

If he were an "AFC-nice guy", he wouldn't be getting any. So it's very important to note the difference between be the "nice guy who gets stepped all over on" and being a nice guy in a general sense.

Look at the interactions and notice that at no point is he trying to compensate with any of the women.

I will say this... if I'm spending $75, I BETTER be getting some action. I really wouldn't take this route that Yogurt has, but it DOES work with some people.

I just want to make sure that the people who are just starting out on their paths from AFC to DJ read this post and say: See, if I do treat her with nice stuff and buy her stuff, I'll get action.

It's all in the delivery and how you pull it off. But, I do agree with Yogurt in the fact that a LOT of people that come new here post about C&F and saying: Oh it doesn't work... When usually the case is that they just abuse it or they think that C&F is supposed to be the end result and not actually a tool to get to where you want to go.

Like I usually say: I never work with absolutes.
I'd never say that C&F is the way to go 100% of the time, as I would never say that being "nice" works 100% of the time.

Every case is individual and purely situational.
 

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YogurtSlinger said:
I was one of the night team leaders at a fast food place.
Hmm interesting...I worked at a local fast food place for about a month, then after I've been working at a nearby restaurant for about 4 years, and every summer I work at the nearby Sony headquarters in the cafeteria.

I'll say this: I've counted money out at the Sony place before, and I've also counted money out at a fast food place before. I've never counted the money out at the restaurant, but I have seen my boss do so. NOT ONCE, have I EVER witnessed someone count out by themself. There is always one other person there counting out with you, to make sure all the numbers add up and to make sure neither of you miss anything. Not only that, but the boss/manager is also ALWAYS there counting out with you. In the fast food place, it was me and my manager, at the Sony place, it was me, another cashier, and my boss. At the local restaurant, it is always either one of the waiters and the manager or restaurant owner.

Not only that, but you said in point number 1 that she "went back to work". Why would she go back to work if your counting out? That makes no sense whatsoever because you only count out when the night ends (at the Sony place, I would count out during late afternoon when the cafeteria closed up). You can't go back to work and take money into the cashier after you count out, because that would screw up all the numbers.

That being said, I call bullsh*t on #1 and #2. And if those are both bullsh*t, then technically you could've also fabricated/lied about numbers 3,4,5, and 6.

Everyone else can believe what they want, but I'm not a fvcking idiot, and I've counted out before like I said, and I call BS on all of this.
 

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You can believe it or not. That is up to you. I am telling you that every one of them is the truth and I don't appreciate being called a liar. K?:)

At that restaurant we had 4 or 5 people working at night. Team leader, lobby, kitchen, 'board', register-one for each. After the shift, they would clean their respective areas and I would count the money. When she went back to work, she had to go finish cleaning the lobby. Technically, I could have counted a register down during work hours because we had more than one, four actually. That's not the way it happened, but I just want to point out that it would have been possible.

At that place, there was not a requirement for there to be two people counting money. The computer showed how much we made and how much should be in each register and therefore how much would be placed in the safe. There were never any discrepancies (more than a few cents) and if there was, it would be obvious to the owner when he looked at the register report and bank deposit. Make sense? Probably not to an inferior mind such as yourself.

BTW, are you trolling just to attempt to get me riled up?:rolleyes:
 

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Kailex,

I don't understand what you mean by the 'core of my situation'. Please explain.

Who said nice guys don't get action? Look back at the posts in this forum anytime I mention being nice or treating girls well. My theory was discounted and I was automatically labeled an AFC. :crackup: Yeah right...

I am a nice guy who DOES NOT get walked on. I don't see any need to be rude, cheat, neg, joke, belittle, etc women. I treat them well and with respect...well until I *** on their face at least...:whistle:

That $75 was as much for me as for any other reason. I wanted to eat there, she was with me. I don't believe it would have mattered if I bought her a happy meal.

You are correct. Buying stuff for the purpose of just spoiling her does nothing. When I spend money on a girl, it's because I WANT to, not because I NEED to. I spend money to be thoughtful, and show affection somewhere other than the bedroom. I know it makes her happy and I get satisfaction from that alone. The rest is just a result of treating a girl well.

Treating a girl with respect is a welcome change from what most girls see the majority of the time. If guys treated a girl like they talk about on this site, and then you come in with respect and thoughtfulness, don't you think that it would be incredibly refreshing to her, therefore causing her to notice that you are different and making her want to be around you more?

This is important-being the alpha in a situation or relationship does not mean that you have to be arrogant, uncaring, rude, and obnoxious. You can be nice and confidently in charge of the situation at the same time.
 

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YogurtSlinger said:
You can believe it or not. That is up to you. I am telling you that every one of them is the truth and I don't appreciate being called a liar. K?:)

At that restaurant we had 4 or 5 people working at night. Team leader, lobby, kitchen, 'board', register-one for each. After the shift, they would clean their respective areas and I would count the money. When she went back to work, she had to go finish cleaning the lobby. Technically, I could have counted a register down during work hours because we had more than one, four actually. That's not the way it happened, but I just want to point out that it would have been possible.

At that place, there was not a requirement for there to be two people counting money. The computer showed how much we made and how much should be in each register and therefore how much would be placed in the safe. There were never any discrepancies (more than a few cents) and if there was, it would be obvious to the owner when he looked at the register report and bank deposit. Make sense? Probably not to an inferior mind such as yourself.

BTW, are you trolling just to attempt to get me riled up?:rolleyes:
No im not trolling, I'm just pointing out an observation. And now that you mention it, hmm, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to me. Lmao
 
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YogurtSlinger said:
The purpose of this thread is to refute the generally accepted 'fact' that nice guys don't get anywhere. Any of you who claim this are incorrect. I don't dispute that your way works, but it seems to be very difficult for you to imagine that there may be more than one way to be successful. I guess you guys call these 'field reports'. I will call them 'field experiences' since they happened in the past. All are true and all resulted from being nice to girls. No girls got pissed off in the process and every one of them will still talk to me to this day with no hard or awkward feelings. I don't think that many of you who go around hurting feelings and 'taking what a man should' can say the same. In addition to the following experiences, there have been numerous times when I have had pvssy flat out offered to me and I turned it down. That is just not the path that I have chosen to follow.

1. There was a pretty good looking girl that I used to work with at an old job. I was always polite, and a gentleman towards her. The closest thing to being rude to her would be playing practical jokes every now and then, but I did that to everyone that I worked with. One night, I was in the office counting money and she came up to speak with me. I don't remember the conversation, but it wasn't overly sexual. A few minutes later, she had my d1ck in her hands giving me a hand job til I busted on the floor and then she cleaned it up and went back to work.

2. Same job, different girl. Again, I was in the office counting money. This is important-I was never sexual or flirtatious with her. We were good friends and I was always nice to her. She tells me that she heard I was a good kisser and wants to know if she can find out. I tell her yes and we start to make out. Soon, she pulls out my d1ck and goes down on me until I busted a nut on her face.

3. I got off of work one night. It was my birthday. I called a girl that I was friends with to see if she wanted to hang out for a little while. We had never been sexual and never talked about it either. She meets me outside of work and I asked her what she wanted to do. She flat out told me she wanted to go somewhere and make out. So we did. She ends up taking out my d1ck and giving me a hand job in my truck.

4. Another night when I got off of work, I picked a girl up that had wanted to hang out with me. I used to have a fake ID and she wanted something to drink. I went and got something for each of us and we parked at a local park and just talked about stuff. Not sure how it happened, but she started giving me head. I blew my load in the back of her throat and she swallowed like a pro. About a week later, we got together and I bought her some lunch. After lunch, we decided to go and park. We made out, I sucked her tits and she jerked me off.

5. This one girl liked Rod Stewart. There was a concert a couple hours away. I surprised her with tickets. I drove her up there in my truck, bought her some stuff at the mall, and bought her dinner before the concert. We enjoyed it and then drove home. On the way home, she gave me awesome road head and guess what...she swallowed too. I got MANY bjs from her at different times after that.

6. Took a girl to a cabin in the mountains. We went out to dinner to the tune of $75 on my dime. Hit it doggy style 4 times that night and 16 times that week.

There's more, but I am drawing a blank trying to remember. The point is, being nice works, contrary to what many others say.

I am currently in a LTR with an awesome girl. I have no problem with sex...It's much easier to be in a good monogamous relationship than to have to go out looking for girls to hook up with like you guys talk about. Pump and dump isn't the way to go. In a relationship, you know each other and you know what each other wants and needs. If you are concerned about banging large #s of chicks, just remember this- quality beats quantity. You get quality of sex in a steady relationship.

Get in a relationship with a good girl and treat her well. It will pay off HUGE for you. Trust me.

BTW, on a similar note, when is the last time you beat your meat? Just so you know, I can't remember the last time I had to. ;)
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Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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