For the exceptionally brave foreigner, Russia is now poontang paradise

[MatureDJ]

Where Have All the Men in Moscow Gone? (Published 2022)

Across the capital, there are noticeably fewer men at restaurants, stores and social gatherings. Many have been called up to fight in Ukraine. Others have fled to avoid being drafted.

www.nytimes.com

“All of the most reasonable guys are gone,” said Tatiana, a 36-year-old who works in technology sales, as she watched a game of billiards with her friends at a women’s social club in the trendy Stoleshnikov Lane. “The dating pool has shrunk by at least 50 percent.”

 

[SW15]

There are men thirsty enough in Western nations to do this.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

There are men thirsty enough in Western nations to do this.

When the Petrodollar collapses maybe they'll come here lol

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Until they recruit you to go fight in their war

 

[logicallefty]

Is it really that there are less men, or just women who are getting more picky?

 

[Zimbabwe]

Is it really that there are less men, or just women who are getting more picky?

Definitely the latter, in Australia they always go on about this stupid "man drought" myth when in reality what they really mean is a Brad Pitt drought.

 

[SW15]

in Australia they always go on about this stupid "man drought" myth when in reality what they really mean is a Brad Pitt drought.

There is no man drought in Australia. I'm hearing that Australia has plenty of excess males.

 

[Suave88]

Where Have All the Men in Moscow Gone? (Published 2022)

Across the capital, there are noticeably fewer men at restaurants, stores and social gatherings. Many have been called up to fight in Ukraine. Others have fled to avoid being drafted.

www.nytimes.com

I wouldn't go to Russia at all, no matter what. You get the same results in Ukraine and is still friendly to the West.

 

[RangerMIke]

Anyone desperate enough to jump into that wild dog pit really needs intervention from friends and family. This comes from experience dating a Russian woman and being around her Russian girlfriends, if you are so weak that you need to go to Russia to get a woman, you are NOT strong enough to keep her. They have ZERO tolerance for ANY weakness. If you are not in the top 10% of men the Russian woman will eat you alive.

Russian women are great, but they are not for the weak.

 

[RangerMIke]

Same with certain Asian types

The thing that makes Russian women different than Western women is that they have not fallen into the "Sex in the City" mythology. Russian women know they have an expiration date and they DO NOT want to waste time when they are at their peak value. The second she does not believe you can deliver the goods, she is out of there.

Its the difference between knowing the wall is coming and not believing that such a thing exists.

 

[Bigpapa]

Mike I agree 100% with you, but for Russian women"being weak" means "not be able to provide so they can she can stay at home, stop working and do her nails 3x/week", it has very little to do with men being "real men". Men in Russia can be top notch simps: they buy expensive flower bouquets, pay for everything all the time (including plastic surgeries, nails, hair, clothes), deal with their caprices and so on, just to get laid with those beauties. But at the same time, they have masculine traits that we Westerners/West Europe men don't have, they are really primitive in terms of dating (caveman style), not all the them thought. I've seen extreme examples of simps and cavemen. I always say that Russia if a country of contrasts. That is another story...

In general, Russian women want so get married, have children and sit at home, take care of the children and enjoy life while the man breaks his back at work to satisfy her. Same thing for Ukrainian, Belarussian women. They will get a degree, find a job but they will actively look for a husband-provider. They are serial daters, they are basically shopping men to find the best deal. Lot of Russians/Ukrainians had told me about it but I could't believe (didn't want to believe), it's a cultural thing. After 3 years living in Russia, several trip to Russia, countless of dates, very few lays, I know what I'm talking about.

If the man can't provide for his family (and the rest: nails and stuff) then he is not a "real man". I think Russian women's most important value in life is money, no wonder why there are so many gold diggers and prostitutes in Russia. Foreigners in Russia can't compete with Russians men, unless they are full of cash and can provide (provide x10). Love and sex are transactional in Russia, you wouldn't believe how many women openly sell their body, no shame at all, it's a common thing.

One German guy who lived in Russia once told me: "to compete with Russian men you to be 2-3x better than them, otherwise dating you is not worth it." The guys I know who got married or got in relationship with Russian women in Russia have average and below average gf/wife. Good luck getting the hot ones, they know their value.

Another thing (has nothing to do with what you said), as a foreigner in Russia, if you don't speak Russian you will have a hard time dating women. The majority of women are not comfortable with English or doesn't want to speak English (even if they know English). It's way easier for them to date Russian men, plus they share the same culture, values, etc.

This is my experience with Russian women in Russia.

i also lived For like 1 year in Kiev , Ukraine ( like 6-7 years ago )

my thoughts are that true EE women can not enjoy sex or love . It is transactional

very unlikely that they will ever see you more than a wallet . And this includes also how they see the Russian men ( not only foreigners )

above average women are difficult anywhere you go . The best dating markets are still the western societies , where casual sex is accepted by societies .

in Ukraine without spending money ( restaurants , bars , etc - the high end ones ) most likely k would have never slept with a girl there . Big contrast to when I compare it to Sweden , Spain , uk , or some former communist countries , where girls were more interested in you as a guy than to go to x place to be seen there

I rarely go for women from poor countries these days , unless they are cool ( or really hot )

most guys who talk about the p8ssy paradises are mainly talking about : average and bellow average women , prostitutes , gold diggers . Rarely heard about guys who were not doing that well back home and when they arrived tk this places they were dating high caliber women

mainly those who managed to do it , they had everything in place except for confidence . But this guys are an exception , a couple of % from all the guys who flood those places

 

[Kotaix]

Anyone desperate enough to jump into that wild dog pit really needs intervention from friends and family. This comes from experience dating a Russian woman and being around her Russian girlfriends, if you are so weak that you need to go to Russia to get a woman, you are NOT strong enough to keep her. They have ZERO tolerance for ANY weakness. If you are not in the top 10% of men the Russian woman will eat you alive.

Russian women are great, but they are not for the weak.

Is this a moscow thing or just in general even in the outlying smaller cities? Most capital cities are full of prima donnas

 

[Bokanovsky]

Mike I agree 100% with you, but for Russian women"being weak" means "not be able to provide so they can she can stay at home, stop working and do her nails 3x/week", it has very little to do with men being "real men". Men in Russia can be top notch simps: they buy expensive flower bouquets, pay for everything all the time (including plastic surgeries, nails, hair, clothes), deal with their caprices and so on, just to get laid with those beauties. But at the same time, they have masculine traits that we Westerners/West Europe men don't have, they are really primitive in terms of dating (caveman style), not all the them thought. I've seen extreme examples of simps and cavemen. I always say that Russia if a country of contrasts. That is another story...

In general, Russian women want so get married, have children and sit at home, take care of the children and enjoy life while the man breaks his back at work to satisfy her. Same thing for Ukrainian, Belarussian women. They will get a degree, find a job but they will actively look for a husband-provider. They are serial daters, they are basically shopping men to find the best deal. Lot of Russians/Ukrainians had told me about it but I could't believe (didn't want to believe), it's a cultural thing. After 3 years living in Russia, several trip to Russia, countless of dates, very few lays, I know what I'm talking about.

If the man can't provide for his family (and the rest: nails and stuff) then he is not a "real man". I think Russian women's most important value in life is money, no wonder why there are so many gold diggers and prostitutes in Russia. Foreigners in Russia can't compete with Russians men, unless they are full of cash and can provide (provide x10). Love and sex are transactional in Russia, you wouldn't believe how many women openly sell their body, no shame at all, it's a common thing.

One German guy who lived in Russia once told me: "to compete with Russian men you to be 2-3x better than them, otherwise dating you is not worth it." The guys I know who got married or got in relationship with Russian women in Russia have average and below average gf/wife. Good luck getting the hot ones, they know their value.

Another thing (has nothing to do with what you said), as a foreigner in Russia, if you don't speak Russian you will have a hard time dating women. The majority of women are not comfortable with English or doesn't want to speak English (even if they know English). It's way easier for them to date Russian men, plus they share the same culture, values, etc.

This is my experience with Russian women in Russia.

Based on my experience, this is pretty much spot on.

 

[RangerMIke]

This is my experience with Russian women in Russia.

That's fair, my experience with Russian women is with Russian women in the US. So US based Russian women are going to be even more mercenary. Every Russian woman I have met in the US have been hot as fvck... seriously, and they know it... if you are not in top physical condition, have 7 figures in the bank, with a high 6 figure income you do not have a rat's chance in hell.

Tatiana was a little different, since she had her own money (her dad was one of those oligarchs) and she held a lot of his wealth for security... I haven't seen her in over three years and she now lives in Rhode Island. But I knew her friends and still stay in touch with a couple, they are both dating VERY wealthy men, but these women would sit around and HUNT for rich men. They were very calculating and manipulative, they were scary good at that sh1t.

When they were done with a guy it was (in an Russian accent) "We are done... do not contact me again, you are not worth my time. If I hear from you again I am calling the police [click]" Then they were onto their next target without a second thought. It was in a Machiavellian way somewhat admirable. But I felt sorry for the dudes.... because that sh1t would come out on nowhere.

When Tatiana ended things with me it was the same "Mikey (she called me Mikey) we are done I am moving to Providence, we are done... don't call me I'll call you, your stuff at my apartment will be on the porch tomorrow morning at 10 AM, I will not be home so don't knock." That was it, which was fine with me, I got my stuff and left her stuff and I didn't here from her for another 8 months when she texted me for some advice. I hear from her every now and then when she has a question about import/export laws, and that is all.

 

[Slowhandluke]

Russian women no matter how attractive become babushkas... so yeah, I'm good... plus the negative stereotypes of them being gold diggers.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Russian women no matter how attractive become babushkas... so yeah, I'm good... plus the negative stereotypes of them being gold diggers.

Unlike western women, who age very gracefully:

 

[Bigpapa]

In Russia or in the West, I've never seen a sexy grandma, it has nothing to do with Russians or Americans or Chineses or...
Women age and they become less attractive as they age.

spanish or Italian age very well

you will see women in their 50-60 looking like they are no more than 30-35

they have a bit darker skin on average , which conceals a lot the wrinkles or the bags under the eyes for example

 

[Bigpapa]

Yeah maybe, I just don't find Italian or Spanish women very attractive in general. From my experience Italian women (big Italian community where I'm from) get fat quickly because of the food they eat (pasta, bread,etc). Once you have tasted Russian beauty you can't go back.
I like blue/green eyes and pale skin, super skinny and tall, less common in Italy and Spain I think.
Italian and Spanish women have black hair on their forearms, I just can't.

depends , it is true that the young women are a bit more natural … but usually not the good looking ones

Italian and Spanish on average look better in the 30s than they do in their 20s . Late bloomers haha

depends what you are looking for , if you like them young then yeah EE is the place . But , you have to make peace that besides sex nothing can develop

if you like them a bit more mature , then I would recommend south of Europe

me personally , I like the south European women more overall (they are just more fun to have them around) . Even though there are better looking women elsewhere , the difference is not that big . If you live in a big city , you will feel little to no difference In terms of beauty

if you want somehow a sweet spot between gold digging and beauty , I would say that Poland is the place ( they look more or less like Ukrainian ) - or any other developed former communist country ( Slovenia , Croatia , Czech Republic , Hungary )

you can actually find above average looking women that are not interested only in your wallet

but the trick is to actually
Live there , as the non gold digging ones more or less will stay away from you if you are a tourist ( as these countries were ravished by the sex tourists in the 90s and early 2000s)

 

[Bigpapa]

Yeah I guess it depends on what you're looking for. But I have to disagree that if you live in a big city you'll see no difference, I have lived in Moscow, now in Prague, in NYC, travelled to LA, SF, London, Paris and other capitals. Moscow/Russia can't be compared.

I'm in Prague, and as you know (you're Czech), Czech women are considered to be among the more beautiful women in the world.
In a month I saw some, yes, but only a few, maybe 15-20. In Moscow they are everywhere, it's like 15-20 stunners in a day, sometimes more depending on where you hang out. I've been to Tallinn and Riga, really disappointing too. In my opinion nothing can beat Russia in terms of beautiful women. I remember when I lived in NYC, if you remove all models/hot girls tourists from abroad, you won't find that many hot girls.

I know people who have been to Italy, Spain, Greece, etc and they all told me that in terms of women, it's not terrible. Of course there are cute girls everywhere, but they were not impressed. I haven't been there yet so I can't tell, I will have to go to verify.

yeah , I agree with you

better looking Czechs are in the west part of the country , not Prague . In Prague they kinda have the gene with the big pointy nose

also , depends a lot on how big the city is . You can not really compare the amount of hot women of A city as big as Moscow with a city as big as Prague

you can compare it to ny or la , but also Moscow is the place where everyone goes ( just like ny , la , London , etc ) . Most likely you think that there are more residents there because it is not as mixed like in other places

what I like the most about souther European women is that they are more outspoken . They smile a lot , tell you how cool you are , in bed they do a lot of noises and talk

I never got this from a Russian or Ukrainian woman , unless I was telling them that I like this and then they would do it because they know that I like it ( not because they feel it - and most likely try to manipulate it ) . And also sex with them kinda feels like going to the gym ,it lacks almost no passion

actually with this former Soviet women , most of the times it kinda feels like talking to a wall or just feel how they try to manipulate you

maybe it is just my case , but also the erection that I get is way stronger when I hear some cool stuff coming from a woman mouth , than It is when she is just slightly better looking . And also feel more passionate about the deed

prefer a lusty 7 that makes me feel , than a 9 that feels mechanical

when a Spanish girl tells me out of her own will “ ay , dime la leche” feels like teleporting to the stars

Russian women when they do this , kinda feels like a bad porn movie

 

[Bigpapa]

I thought I was crazy, they all have the same nose. I've heard that the girls in Olomouc are the best? Which cities should I visit if I want to see tall hot skinny Czech girls? La crème de la crème.

sorry , not west but east ( Moravia )

go to brno . It is smaller than Praha , but it is fun . Uni city too