$ for love

[IamMyownMan]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081210/sc_livescience/oogaoogamenoverspendtoattractmates

IMHO, going beyond one's financial means to get laid is the epitome of AFC. There's tons of them though, as we all know, I was one and am recovering.

In light of this, why do the women overspend? Rhetorical question...they didn't answer that though, just concluded that men put up money for play.

 

[Paradox]

We already know that the men who overspend get the women. They have a hot bachelor pad with the 42" flat screeen tv w/dolby surround sound and the best stereo, ipod, phone, cable service, laptop and car.

"Men in the ancestral environment were valued if they were good providers," Kruger said. "Now we have this new consumer culture, so basically we show our potential through the consumer goods that we purchase, rather than being a good hunter or providing protection."

As far as women spending more it couldn't be more obvious....to attract men. Women spend on jewelery, clothes, shoes, make up, handbags....ect

 

[edger]

IMHO, going beyond one's financial means to get laid is the epitome of AFC.

Ah, this guy gets it. Thank you. This is what I've been saying. Let me warn you though, a good portion of these guys around here don't think so, so be careful what you say.

There's tons of them though, as we all know, I was one and am recovering.

I'm glad you've woken up and are recovering. Maybe one day these guys will wake up and recover too, and in doing so, re-shape the westernized woman's "entitlement" attitude they so much complain about. Unfortunately though, I don't think there IS too much hope for them.

 

[Trajhenkhet01]

This reminds me of an old film I once saw. American Pimp (the quote came from another movie featured in that film) "The weak must pay...".

 

[thedeparted]

I'd rather say you can see the correlation between a risky way of life and a secure one. People who save a lot of money tend to go the secure path in all aspects of life, thus being nothing special in the long run.

The ones who spend all the money might loose it all but they've got more ambition (well, some are just foolish, but that's another story). That is what attracts women.

P.S.: I know I don't belong in this part of the board, but this seems to be a thread that isn't just related to mature men's problems

Financial advice from a jack-azz. Thank you. You may return to gradeschool now.

Talk to a REAL self-made millionaire and you'll find that they are excellent at saving money. In fact, they don't just save it, they INVEST it. And as Warren Buffet would say, the best investments are those with the greatest margin of safety. Not the greatest risk.

As for impressing women, imagine a party full of ibankers and lawyers in Manhattan. Avg. net worth well over $1 million. A white guy walks in wearing a huge afro wig. He walks around being buddies with the big shots, neg hitting the hotties, and conspicuously double dipping his chips in the dip. You think the chicks still want to go home with the man with the most exciting wristw@tch?

There are HOMELESS guys who get more play than some rich dudes I know. Short run, women go for what turns them on. Long run they may seek a provider, but they'll probably cheat on him with the exciting guy anyway, and eventually divorce him for a nice chunk of change or maybe just the $2 million condo. I've been buddies with the that guy, and I've been the guy in the wig, and I'll tell you who gets more play.

 

[STR8UP]

Talk to a REAL self-made millionaire and you'll find that they are excellent at saving money. In fact, they don't just save it, they INVEST it. And as Warren Buffet would say, the best investments are those with the greatest margin of safety. Not the greatest risk.

You're a smart guy, but your words do not paint the whole picture.

The best investments ARE risky, but they are riskier to others than they are to YOU. Essentially, risk will almost always be proportionate to reward, HOWEVER, there are ways to mitigate said risk to stack the cards in your favor.

And the millionare you speak of is the AVERAGE millionaire, not the ABOVE average guys like Branson, Trump, etc. I don't want to be a senior citizen before I have made my fortune, so I choose a "high risk" path where I do everything I can to stack the deck in my favor. And I can tell you from experience that the qualities that an "above average" guy possesses are the ones that make women's panties wet.

 

[The Bat]

So all the men and women surveyed...were they all married or single? It didn't say...

Anyway, I don't get what the big deal is. Men spend money on gadgets, tech-toys, vehicles, equipments, etc. and women spend it on shoes, clothes, handbags, shoes, etc.

It really is a debate that comes full circle. Yeah men spend money to be more attractive, but so do women. What's the big idea?

 

[backbreaker]

an immature woman looks at how money you have. a smart woman figures out how much money you are worth.

it's not one in the same.

Women are always, always paying attention. They notice even when you don't. I have a woman who would be crazy to go anywhere, not only because she's well taken care of, but becuase I'm a freaking catch. But part of what makes me a catch, is the ability to provide a certain lifestyle, and I'm a fool to think otherwise.

would she be attracted to me if she didn't have to work? probably. would she be AS attracted to me? probably not.

 

[Hooligan Harry]

Ahh, this old nugget. The "you dont need money to bang broads" theory.

No one denies that. No one has ever denied that. Having money helps though. Its part of the total package, like her fake tits or 300 hours in the gym arse.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1853311,00.html
http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/07/divorce-recession-housing-pf-ii-in_ks_0703marriage_inl.html
http://www.totaldivorce.com/news/articles/society/recession-and-divorce-link.aspx

Divorce and recession. Whats a mans dwindling pay packet does do his existing relationships.

 

[backbreaker]

the "money doesn't matter" arguement holds no water becuase men fail to realize that a man's finanical status is apart of who he is. it's not some thing that is just out there. I would never date a woman who is a wreck financially. it's part of the entire package.

 

[STR8UP]

the "money doesn't matter" arguement holds no water becuase men fail to realize that a man's finanical status is apart of who he is. it's not some thing that is just out there. I would never date a woman who is a wreck financially. it's part of the entire package.

I know exactly where you are coming from, but ego investments will lead many to disagree with us.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Regarding $ for love, I have reached the same conclusions, only reversing the genders. I used to have money and I impressed all the broke bimbos. But these days it's easier to just find a woman with a good job and let her support me, which is what I am doing right now.

The world is full of lonely women with good jobs. There's no reason to have to work for a living if you are skilled at making women happy.

 

[puma183]

Regarding $ for love, I have reached the same conclusions, only reversing the genders. I used to have money and I impressed all the broke bimbos. But these days it's easier to just find a woman with a good job and let her support me, which is what I am doing right now.

The world is full of lonely women with good jobs. There's no reason to have to work for a living if you are skilled at making women happy.

The coup-detat will be to marry her, let her support you for 10 years, you filing for divorce, and winning lifetime alimony via the awesomely equitable just power of the family court. Then you can spend the rest of your life partying on the beach (your mid-40's onwards) with bikini clad younger women, while your poor career-woman ex slaves away 60 hrs/week in the office for the rest of her life.

If this sounds very evil, it is. But then again the ladies have been executing on this gameplan for almost half a century now.

 

[SXS]

But these days it's easier to just find a woman with a good job and let her support me, which is what I am doing right now.

you stud!

Why dont you write something about to get that ? Thats like a dream to me...

 

[Bible_Belt]

Why dont you write something about to get that?

This post tells a lot of it:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1501302#post1501302

 

[Hooligan Harry]

you stud!

Why dont you write something about to get that ? Thats like a dream to me...

Does the dream include wearing a dress, raising children and meeting your boyfriends for luncheons when the foreign au pair is looking after the little ones?

The day this becomes acceptable behaviour for a MAN is the day I throw myself in front of the bus. God gave you a testosterone and a brain which when used together conquers ****ing continents and builds spaceships that puts other men on the moon.

This just goes to show how delusional and confused some people are these days. The world has got you convinced that as a man it is now acceptable not to provide for yourself as a minimum if someone else can do it for you.

The fact that these views are applauded on these forums in particular is concerning.

 

[puma183]

Guy Ritchie just tripled his net worth from $40M to $120M through his divorce settlement with Madonna. Good Man.

Note: I am against these absurd laws as well, however until women start feeling the sting of them just like men do, there will never be enough of a voting majority to change them. So guys who marry, divorce, and cash out on rich old ladies are actually taking one for the team.

Guy Ritchie - I salute you!

 

[edger]

Does the dream include wearing a dress, raising children and meeting your boyfriends for luncheons when the foreign au pair is looking after the little ones?

The day this becomes acceptable behaviour for a MAN is the day I throw myself in front of the bus. God gave you a testosterone and a brain which when used together conquers ****ing continents and builds spaceships that puts other men on the moon.

This just goes to show how delusional and confused some people are these days. The world has got you convinced that as a man it is now acceptable not to provide for yourself as a minimum if someone else can do it for you.

The fact that these views are applauded on these forums in particular is concerning.

Edit...my mistake, I misread your post. You're absolutely right, BOTH men AND women should strive for careers and self-sufficiency, without ever expecting to rely on ANYONE, unless of course in a woman's case, she gets pregnant and has to raise a kid(s).

 

[backbreaker]

Does the dream include wearing a dress, raising children and meeting your boyfriends for luncheons when the foreign au pair is looking after the little ones?

The day this becomes acceptable behaviour for a MAN is the day I throw myself in front of the bus. God gave you a testosterone and a brain which when used together conquers ****ing continents and builds spaceships that puts other men on the moon.

This just goes to show how delusional and confused some people are these days. The world has got you convinced that as a man it is now acceptable not to provide for yourself as a minimum if someone else can do it for you.

The fact that these views are applauded on these forums in particular is concerning.

+100

 

[Bible_Belt]

You guys are just jealous because you have to get up for work tomorrow.

I sleep until noon, get up and get stoned, then play with my dogs and fvck around the house a little, doing whatever I feel like. In the evening, I go train martial arts, then come home and fvck the hell out of my girlfriend who pays for this lifestyle. She falls sleep early because she has to get up for work, then I drink beer and make Internet message board posts. That's a typical day for me. $ for love, and I am loving it.