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Alright so I've actually been writing a personal journal for myself already but I haven't been posting it here because...well I'm not sure why.

I'll start off a little bit with what brought me over to this site, how everything's been going for me, where I am, where I want to be, etc.

So as some of you might have read around here, I'm 5'0 tall, and I've wrestled with that ever since I was a kid. I'm a senior in college, so I'll be graduating pretty soon. What's wierd about me is that I'm actually a funny guy, I have a lot of friends, and I'm actually really good at speaking in public and giving speeches in front of large crowds. You ever hear that statistic that says people are more afraid of speaking in public than death? Well, I'm like that with women instead, or at least I was before I started doing this.

I started officially roughly a month ago, and I came up with a schedule for myself. The first week was dedicated towards just getting in the right mindset, and not being in my head so much. The second week was about just becoming more social, and pushing my limits.

I've actually already started making some improvement. I'll give you a few examples and what mindset brought me there. A few weeks ago, when I was driving around, I saw some huge mansions, and it got me to realize something that seems practical to most of you, but never made sense to me. I realized it was way harder to become ridiculously rich and successful than it was to pick up a girl, and then I realized that girls actually don't matter that much really, and that if you become loaded and successful you'll find someone anyways. What makes a man is more than just having women, its also about having pride in the work you do, and being successful at it.

Alright, so I'll now just give you a few brief examples of successes I've had since starting, and then I'll end my little intro there. So the first success I've had is that I've slowly but surely been completely fine cold approaching women. I've been going to different bars around my campus, meeting new people, and starting casual conversations with them, and in some cases I felt like I was clicking on all cylinders. Its actually a rush when you feel like you're cool and can talk to anybody you want. In one case I approached this table full of hotties (like 9's) and I had them laughing their ***** off.

Then, me and two of my friend went to this other bar like a week ago. We were trying to pick up some chicks, and my friend went up to talk to these two girls (I should stress by the way he's a lot better at this than me). He basically had some stupid conversation then bounced. I went up to them, had them laughing the whole time, and come to find out they're like 7 years older than me, and I pulled the cute one's number by having her type it in my phone.

Now, I know that's not a big deal to most of you guys here, but my friends were shocked that I did that, and honestly I couldn't believe it either after words, but it was cool.

So those are just a few examples of things I've done since I started, there's more in depth stuff in the one I started for myself but I don't feel like back tracking.

What are my goals? Essentially my goal is I just want to 100% eliminate any fears I have about escalating with girls, getting numbers, closing, anything. I just want to be completely cool about it.

Anyways, I know this was probably a boring read, but hopefully as I go along it will get more entertaining. Realize that I'm literally starting from the ground up. I've never had a gf or anything, so I'm fresh meat here. I'd also just like to mention that I wanted to start this because I read snowdog's, and I had a lot of respect for him for starting his.
 
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My Indian Friend blackhawk said:
Have Fun! Just because they are in shape, have a nice body, make you feel like a daydream engineer, and have a head of great silky hair that gives you a boner at the thought doesn't mean you can't talk to them or date them. Seriously.... who says you cant talk to or date them? Who?"
Remember this. Im glad you started a journal. ill be looking foward to seeing you improve. I also started an improvement journal and much respect flint. I give you props for making a group of 9s laugh and have a good time. First post WOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!:rockon:
 

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Okay so for my first entry here I'll talk about what happened to me a few hours ago. There's this girl in one of my classes who sits in front of me that I've bsed with after class a few times. Lots of times she'll turn around in class to see what I'm doing and she has this look, and I act like I don't notice as I'm on the computer. I can't really explain any other IOI's I've had with her other than strong eye contact, like I said she's always looking to see what I'm doing, and after our last class she asked why we weren't friends on facebook yet (I actually made a post asking about that as an IOI).

Anyways, today we got out of class and I went to the cafeteria right after. I would've gone with some of my buds but I decided to eat early instead so I was just going to go by myself. So as I enter the serving area I run into her. She asked if I was sitting with anyone, and I said no, so she was like cool lets eat together.

So next I go in line to get a sandwhich, and I'm in between these two chicks talking to each other. They start talking about what they're eating, and I jump in:

Me: (pointing to the mash potatoes on my plate) "Hey does that look like a finger yo you?"
HB1&2 laugh
HB1: "I know right I'm getting sick just thinking about it."
Me: (Zooming in on HB2's jello cup) "Oh my god what's in there?!"
HB2: (Freaked out look on her face)
Me: "Just kidding"

They both start laughing. Now mind you, the entire time this is going on while the two girls are laughing, I notice the girl from class I'm supposed to eat with walk by as she gives me this look like "you're being bad". And also mind you, I notice in the background that she's continually walking by me and these two girls even though she's not getting food and she keeps making the faces, but I acted like I couldn't see her and just focused on the two girls I was talking to.

Me: "They should just make easymac in this line, it would go by a lot quicker"
HB's laugh

After that we had this funny conversation about how much of a pain it is to make easymac or something for another like 5 minutes. I had them laughing the whole time. Should've asked for a number but I didn't, I guess I was just satisfied with the fact that the girl from class was walking around trying to get my attention and eying the fact that I've got these two girls attention, silly me!

So then we ate dinner, and everything was going good for like the first thirty minutes, but I think I hung out with her too long or something because the last 15 minutes I felt like our conversations got stale. Eventually she brings up the fact that she has a bf that goes to another school too, and that's when I was like "Alright, I've gota go".

In any rate there's a few notes I'd like to make about the entire interaction from the day, and some observations.

Firstly, I should've gone for one of the girl's number that I was talking about. They were definately laughing hard and I had their complete attention, not to mention one of them was really cute. Secondly, I definately thought that it was wierd that the class girl has a boyfriend because as I said she's given me lots of IOI's, and again when I was talking to the other girls she was randomly trying to get my attention in the background and giving me this "naughty boy" look to get it. I probably stook around too long, or I let the conversation get boring. I should've just left once it started to stink, get her number and leave.

I'd like to mention that this doesn't hurt my ego or anything, it just concerns me that I thought she was into me and then I find out she has a boyfriend, because it shows that maybe my being able to read IOI's is still flawed or something, that's the only reason this concerned me.

I think given what happened, anyone in my shoes would've thought she wanted me. And also, she mentioned him briefly its not like she went into some long story, so it could be that she is into me and the fact that her bf goes to another school means she's open, but I don't really care either way.
 

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Alright so I guess this isn't an approach journal entry, this one is a "lack of approach" entry because of a few of the events that occured , but I learned some valuable things out of it which is why I'm posting.

So anyways, first off I went to a job fair the other day, and I knocked em dead! I was in the zone the whole time, completely confident when talking to employers, and I'm about to get like three different job interviews out of it. Now, the reason I bring this up is because I realize the ridiculousness of the fact that I can go up to people wearing suites, who are constantly judging me and all serious, and make a great impression with untouchable confidence, and yet dealing with a girl shakes me up. Wouldn't you say that's stupid? I would!

Anyways, after I went to the fair I was feeling on top of the world, nobody could mess with me. And then I run into this girl who I know and we start talking about stuff. She was with some guy friend and another girl, and ironically enough I got the other girl's phone number like a few semesters ago but never called her to do anything hah. What bothered me about this was after I started leaving and I was a little bit away, I could hear her say, "Oh he's so cute...anyways...", and you could tell she thought I couldn't hear her anymore. This shook me up a bit, because as some of you guys know I'm only 5'0 tall and look younger, so when I hear something like that it just bothers the heck out of me because yeah I was making her laugh and she enjoys my company, but she thinks of me like I'm in middle school or something. Now don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to get her number or anything but it still bothers me that something out my control like that happened.

In any rate, later on it was the big party night, and I decided to go hang out with my "typical" friends at their house. A little background for you guys, while my friends are loyal to me and completely cool, I don't feel like the people I hang out with have a lot of respect for me. When were in a large setting like a party it seems like people only listen to me if nobody else is talking, otherwise my words have the least priority. This really REALLY bothers me because in all honesty, everybody else other than my closest friends listens to me all the time because I'm a really funny guy, and I'm good with people. In other social situations, I take the lead, people just naturally need to hear what I have to say. People call be a bser all of the time, but for some reason my best friends don't, and to make it worse they'll pat me on the head and stuff like that which just reminds me and everyone around that I'm short and stuff.

Now, while this isn't an approach journal, there's a solid reason I made this entry anyways. The reason is because I've decided that I'm done hanging out over there, and I'm going to continue to just meet new people and approach. In all honesty, I didn't even have fun at that party, and I left early because before anyone even said anything to me I automatically was sick of them. That shouldn't happen with your close friends.

And another thing is too, when I'm not around them, I have no problems approaching, going for numbers, and being an all around social guy.

Anyways, sorry to dissapoint you guys on the lack of approaching, but now that this is off of my chest and I've made a committment, things will start getting more entertaining.
 

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Flint, I will reading with interest.

Don't worry about results too much. The key to improvement and success is change. Show us what you've learnt learnt, or what we can learn.
 
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I think your friends are afraid they are going to loose you if you change. Usually tey will very gradually make you fell like you don't have any respect, and that you are an outsider. Have you ever seen the movie Employee Of The Month, when the stockboys get mad at the dane cook character for moving up to cashier?

The key to improvement and success is change
Its is not the strongest, the wisest, or the the most attractive of species that survive, it is the ones that adapted to change...

Charles Darwin, my friend.
 

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Alright so I haven't made any cold approaches really since I started this thing, which is really pathetic because I did a ton of them like a week before I started this thing, and I even pulled a few numbers.

The biggest weakness I have right now is that it seems to me that I'm having a difficult time keeping the right state of mind even when I'm not seeing the results or everything isn't going my way. I need to have that on top of the world mentality all of the time not just when I'm doing things right. I know this, but its still hard to follow through with it.

I'll give you a perfect example of how I failed to follow through with this. Just last night I was leaving my dorm, and I saw this chick who I've seen throughout campus a lot, and who I met at a party once. I always notice she gives me lots of eye contact and smiles and stuff whenever I walk by her. Anyways, as I went to the door, the door was shutting and I noticed that she looked at me and assumed I'd hold the door open for her so she wouldn't have to open it with her key. Instead of holding it open, I let the door shut and she ran up to the door to try to grab it.

Flint: Then I opened the door with a ****y smile and said "What a pain you are, you're lucky I was so generous".

HB: Then she looked at me smiling + eye contact and said something like "Yeah right".

Flint: "Repeat after me, thank you very much Flint, I truly appreciate it"

HB: Eye contact + repeats everything I said.

And then I just left, and I didn't even think to get her number until right after I bounced.

Then there's this other girl who lives near me. I grabbed her number like a month ago but never called her for some reason, I just kept delaying it, and having some new reason not to call her thinking I could only call her to do something on a party night. I still kept seeing her around campus, and truthfully I even think for the first three weeks she still wanted me to call her, but I never did, and finally tonight I saw her and she was just indifferent. Perfect example of sh*t or get off the pot.

So that's what's happened over the last few days. I've also seen plenty girls I wanted to cold approach but haven't for some reason, which is bad because I feel like I've taken a step backwards when I was making a lot of progress. I still don't understand how I have the easiest time speaking in public, and being able to get job interviews and stuff but something as simple as this is so ridiculous for me.

Anyways, I knew when I started this that I was going to fall off the horse and want to give up, but I won't because I'm persistent and I'm a fighter. I'm going to force myself to cold approach at least 5 girls tomorrow night and go for numbers since tomorrow is a big party night. I noticed however that momentum plays into this a lot too because if the first two approaches go really well, then you end up being able to approach like 10, and even if you get rejected you don't care by then. I need to be like that always but I just have a tough time staying in state.

Lastly, tonight me and my roomates are throwing a little shin dig kind of thing, I think I'm going to invite that girl whose number I got a month ago over, not because I need to but just so that I get it in my head that its not a big deal.
 
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flint said:
Alright so I haven't made any cold approaches really since I started this thing, which is really pathetic because I did a ton of them like a week before I started this thing, and I even pulled a few numbers.

The biggest weakness I have right now is that it seems to me that I'm having a difficult time keeping the right state of mind even when I'm not seeing the results or everything isn't going my way. I need to have that on top of the world mentality all of the time not just when I'm doing things right. I know this, but its still hard to follow through with it.

I'll give you a perfect example of how I failed to follow through with this. Just last night I was leaving my dorm, and I saw this chick who I've seen throughout campus a lot, and who I met at a party once. I always notice she gives me lots of eye contact and smiles and stuff whenever I walk by her. Anyways, as I went to the door, the door was shutting and I noticed that she looked at me and assumed I'd hold the door open for her so she wouldn't have to open it with her key. Instead of holding it open, I let the door shut and she ran up to the door to try to grab it.

Flint: Then I opened the door with a ****y smile and said "What a pain you are, you're lucky I was so generous".

HB: Then she looked at me smiling + eye contact and said something like "Yeah right".

Flint: "Repeat after me, thank you very much Flint, I truly appreciate it"

HB: Eye contact + repeats everything I said.


And then I just left, and I didn't even think to get her number until right after I bounced.

Then there's this other girl who lives near me. I grabbed her number like a month ago but never called her for some reason, I just kept delaying it, and having some new reason not to call her thinking I could only call her to do something on a party night. I still kept seeing her around campus, and truthfully I even think for the first three weeks she still wanted me to call her, but I never did, and finally tonight I saw her and she was just indifferent. Perfect example of sh*t or get off the pot.

So that's what's happened over the last few days. I've also seen plenty girls I wanted to cold approach but haven't for some reason, which is bad because I feel like I've taken a step backwards when I was making a lot of progress. I still don't understand how I have the easiest time speaking in public, and being able to get job interviews and stuff but something as simple as this is so ridiculous for me.

Anyways, I knew when I started this that I was going to fall off the horse and want to give up, but I won't because I'm persistent and I'm a fighter. I'm going to force myself to cold approach at least 5 girls tomorrow night and go for numbers since tomorrow is a big party night. I noticed however that momentum plays into this a lot too because if the first two approaches go really well, then you end up being able to approach like 10, and even if you get rejected you don't care by then. I need to be like that always but I just have a tough time staying in state.

Lastly, tonight me and my roomates are throwing a little shin dig kind of thing, I think I'm going to invite that girl whose number I got a month ago over, not because I need to but just so that I get it in my head that its not a big deal.

good job! Have fun at your shin dig, keep the approches coming.
 

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Okay so anyways last night I was at a party and completely hammered. Again I was at my friend's house which I said I wouldn't do anymore but I went anyways just because I didn't have a ton of money to go to the bars or something.

In any rate, I have sort of a funny and entertaining story that came from last night though. So I was completely drunk as I said before, and there was this girl at the party who I've known for a long time. I didn't think she was really attracted to me at all, but since I was drunk I started talking to her for a second, and I basically just pressed her against the wall and kiss closed like pretty randomly actually hah. Ironically enough though she didn't pull away, and yeah like I said, kiss close. To add more to the randomness I'm pretty sure I just stumbled off for more beer right after or something.

Although this wasn't really "don juanish" at all I'm still sort of glad that I had the balls to just do that. Of course it was definitely the alcohol that made me do it, but I'm just glad I did it anyways. I don't think she's attracted to me or anything either but I'm just glad I pushed my boundaries, even if I was cheating.

Anyways I'm going out to some bars tonight so I'll try and number close so I can cheer for a real victory.
 

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So last night I went to the bar and I got in line to get a pitcher. As I got in a tone of my guy friends started getting all excited to see me, and I gave them all high fives and stuff. After that I noticed this girl staring at me from literally the other side of the bar. I looked at her and held eye contact, then I cracked a ****y smile just on the left side of my face. She gave a big smile back and covered up her face with her hands. As I looked around her I saw that there were these two dudes sitting on either side of her, they looked like they were trying to impress her or something.

Anyways, I got out of the line and started walking towards her since I had some liquid courage in me. As I got up to her I tapped her on the shoulder. The conversation went like this:

Flint: "What's up, I've seen you around her quite a bit, do you live here?"

HB: Laughs, "I'm not here much more than you are".

Flint: "What do you keep tabs on how often I come here? Hey actually, are you the chick that's been watching me from the tree near my room?" *cracking a ****y smile*

HB: Laughs more, "Yeah, that would be me".

Flint: "Well I'll tell you what, here's my phone, put your number in it. I'm sure the tree is getting pretty uncomfortable"

As I say this the two guys look at each other like they are trying to laugh without me noticing to sound like I'm making an idiot out of myself, but I completely ignored them.

HB: Stares at me for a second with a smile and then puts her number in my phone.

Flint: "Alright, maybe I'll see you around later" then eject.


So I thought that went over pretty well. My goal for the night was to pull a number, and I did. I have to admit though I have seen this girl give me mad eye contact like that a few times I've been there though so I almost knew I'd get it. I should've probably tried to take a more risky route, but I can always do that next time I go out.

I've set a goal to try and pull at least one number everytime I go to the bar and there's a decent number of girls there.
 

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So this week's been pretty decent so far. On Monday this girl in my class gave a big presentation and I didn't pay attention at all. A little background on her, she's in my class which is right after that the one she gave the presentation during, and she came to talk to me after the class. Basically we had like 45 minutes before the next class was going to start, and she said she was going to skip our next class immediately. Instead, she talked to me for half an hour about random stuff, I just played it cool the entire time, but in any rate finally class was about to start and I went to class, but she still skipped it. I'm thinking I should've grabbed her number because she basically talked to me forever even though we're pretty much strangers, and I saw her give me the wink as she turned to look at me as I was leaving. I'll probably try and number close her next class.

Anyways, yesterday is the main point of this entry. I had to dress up in a tie and everything for a presentation, and it was so nice out I decided to study outside. I sat in this area that lots of people have to walk by on campus so I could be social. On my way to my spot I saw this girl who I met at the bar one night. I had a solid approach but I was too shy at that point to get her number. This was out convo:

HBRed: "Look at you, you're looking sharp"
Me (smirk): "Oh this? These are my pajamas actually".
HBRed: "Oh really? We'll have to have another slumber party then"
Me: "Yeah" as I continue walking by.

Doh! Perfect opportunity, blew it! It's alright I'll see her around again but I'm still angry I didn't go for the number.

Next, I'm studying in my section, and this girl starts walking by. I've seen her on campus randomly throughout the semester. She came to one of my parties last year but we never talked or anything. I always notice she gives a lot of eye contact though whenever I randomly walk by her, so I figured I'd talk to her.

Me: "So when are you going to come back and party?"
HB (Stops walking by, EC, smile): "I don't know, we should party again though, what room are you again?"
Me: "Room #, Here why don't you plop your number in my phone"
HB: (Writes name and number in my phone)
Me: "So where you going all dressed up?"
HB: "Oh to work"
Me: "Cool, where do you work"
....BS about her job, find out she's in social working
Me: "Well that's ridiculous, if you're working to be a social worker then why did you let yourself beat me all those years when we were married?"
HB laughs

....Few minutes go by but I need to study. I realize she would've stayed to talk to me for a while but I wanted to seem somewhat busy, I mean I was anyways so I wasn't faking her out.

Me (smirking): "Alright, well if you're not going to finish taking my notes get out of here"
HB (laughs and leaves hessitantly, as if she wanted to stay and chat)


So tomorrow is the big party night. I'm either going to pre game with her or this chick next door who I think is into me too, we'll see. Technically I told this one I'd chill with her but I think I'll hang out with my neighbor tomorrow night then call her over the weekend and go out with her or something.

:rockon:
 

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HBRed: "Look at you, you're looking sharp"
Me (smirk): "Oh this? These are my pajamas actually".
HBRed: "Oh really? We'll have to have another slumber party then"
Me: "Yeah" as I continue walking by.

Doh! Perfect opportunity, blew it! It's alright I'll see her around again but I'm still angry I didn't go for the number.
That's good man, that conversation. You get the idea. She clearly showed you interest when she talked about that slumber party. That's even a sexually loaded reaction. Don't be afraid to react to stuff like that. "Oh really?" with a funny accent would had probably done the trick.

I know that feeling exactly man. You just gotta get over it. Lately I go for numbers when I know I should. If I get rejected, it is ten times less worse then beating myself up about the fact that I didn't ask in the first place. Also remember you have nothing to lose.

Don't be afraid of your sexuality. You're a man, why should you be ashamed of it? When she gives you a sexual answer like that, I think you should jump right on it. Get sexual with her. Now, this next part may be painful to read. It was painful to write. When I talk to hot chicks and when there's a 'click', where you both know there is some sexual tention in the air, I just pop a boner. That used to make me really shy and I tried to hide it and sh*t. Now, I just don't give a sh*t anymore. Because, why should I? When someone notices I'd just laugh about it.

But don't worry man, you'll see her again. Don't think too much about it. My experience (and I am VERY experienced in getting rejected and getting blue balls. My balls are as blue as the ocean), the less you think about it, the better it goes. Don't obsess about girls. You'll drive yourself crazy and you'll make yourself insecure because eventually, you will start to visualize situations where you will get rejected.

Me: "Well that's ridiculous, if you're working to be a social worker then why did you let yourself beat me all those years when we were married?"
Hahaha that's good man! Good job on getting the number. Was she hot?


So tomorrow is the big party night. I'm either going to pre game with her or this chick next door who I think is into me too, we'll see. Technically I told this one I'd chill with her but I think I'll hang out with my neighbor tomorrow night then call her over the weekend and go out with her or something.
Sounds like you are in a sweet situation with college chicks living around you. You live on the campus? Where do you live?


Just sit back and enjoy your night. Don't expect anything out of it, and don't make getting laid your goal. Play it cool. Sounds like you're doing good my man!
 

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My biggest weakness

Alright, so at this point I've been doing this a few weeks now. I've scored something like 4 numbers. Considering how much of a loser I was before that's pretty good for me.

Anyways, I thought I'd share what I've learned from my experiences so far, and how I'm going to proceed from now on.

The biggest weakness I have, which is also what I need to work on the most, is that you need to be constantly escalating with women. You can't get a girl's number and not call her for a couple of weeks or something because you're delaying. You can't go hang out with her and not go for a kiss close within the first couple of times you hang out. You need to be consistently looking to make the next move, you can't just stick around and wait for her or something. At the same time however, you can't be looking to do it while overanalyzing the situation or else it will force you to not because you'll freak yourself out.

So far I've gotten pretty good at getting numbers, and I know how to get in state, but I find that I'm not moving things along soon enough.

Example: Last month I met this chick next door who after the party at 3:00am invited me to chill with her sometime. First off I probably could've just closed right there and I had never even talked to her, but instead I grabbed her number. Didn't call her for a month and now I'm getting this vibe that she's not interested.

I've also got plenty of examples of how I just dropped the ball in spur of the moment situations. One night I went to my friend's house, and I kept teasing this girl I was going to take her outside and fist fight with her. Flirted with her a lot, finally in the middle of the party when we were in the middle of a large group of people, she goes "That's it!", grabs my hand, and pulls me towards the back door. While I'm going, I said something like "You know I was just kidding right?" So what happens? She goes "Wait...you seriously thought I was going to take you outside to fight?" and then she just went back downstairs. Point and case, she was probably trying to give me free isolation.

Anyways, that's the first major problem I've had. I attribute a lot of this down to the fact that deep down I'm sort of scared to progress because growing up my parents put the fear of heck into me about this topic.

Finally, the other major lesson I've learned so far, is that this has to become part of your personality all of the time. In other words, no matter who the girl is, you've got to be flirty and be in state, you can't just go out and press the on switch. You have to be in the same state of mind when you're in the library as when you're gaming, doesn't matter.

So from now on, I'm going to work on these two things more, making this become more of my personality, and naturally escalating. I know I can do this as I'm a very personable guy, I've just got to hammer it down.

Sorry no approaches, but I felt this would be a good post for some self-reflection, and so you guys can see where I'm coming from in future approaches.
 

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My Biggest Fear

Alright, the last thing I'm going to post is my biggest fear about this since I never addressed this in the beginning of my journal. I'm graduating in only a few weeks from university. University is a great time to be meeting new girls and approaching because you're forced to be around them all of the time, whether you're in class or anywhere.

Unfortunately, I basically threw away many opportunities in college. I can think of at minimum one girl from ever semester of school that I could've closed with, but never did out of fear of progressing and such.

By now, I know what to do, and how to do it, but it's too late to capitalize on what could've been great opportunities. And now, I won't be in this environment anymore. I feel like there's a lot of people who have crummy social lives once they graduate, and that it's a lot more difficult to meet women after college.

So anyways, that's my biggest fear right now.
 

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So I haven't been approaching much since I've been busy with school, but I decided I'd post this little approach for you all.

I get inside my building and this cute girl is behind me, texting something to someone. Once the elevator doors open we both walk in.

Me: "What floor are you going to?"

HB8.5: "Four please"

Me (press her floor and my floor): 'That'll be 5 dollars please" (smile, ec)

HB8.5: (smile, ec, laughs) "Do you take debit?"

Me: "No, but if you want you can give me your credit card and I'll hang onto it for a week, I'll be responsible I swear"

HB8.5: (laugh) "Oh okay, just wanted to make sure"

Then the elevator came to her floor, she waved and said goodbye as she left.

Overall I thought that was a great line, I'm dissapointed I didn't have the balls yet to go for her number. It just felt wierd going for it within the short timespan of just an elevator ride.

What I should've said when she asked if I take debit was "No, but I take phone numbers". I thought it in my head but I just didn't have the courage to say it. I'm a little dissapointed that I didn't too, but oh well.
 

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Haha that's good man, you're smooth.

The closing is the hardest part. I'm having trouble with it myself sometimes.

After that last respons you could had said something like

"Your cellphone number would be suficient too, but just"

It sounds so easy, but it isn't if the feeling isn't right.
 

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flint said:
Alright, the last thing I'm going to post is my biggest fear about this since I never addressed this in the beginning of my journal. I'm graduating in only a few weeks from university. University is a great time to be meeting new girls and approaching because you're forced to be around them all of the time, whether you're in class or anywhere.

Unfortunately, I basically threw away many opportunities in college. I can think of at minimum one girl from ever semester of school that I could've closed with, but never did out of fear of progressing and such.

By now, I know what to do, and how to do it, but it's too late to capitalize on what could've been great opportunities. And now, I won't be in this environment anymore. I feel like there's a lot of people who have crummy social lives once they graduate, and that it's a lot more difficult to meet women after college.

So anyways, that's my biggest fear right now.
If you're a fun guy, you'll meet women anyway. I just read all your posts and it's good stuff, you're a few steps ahead of me.
 

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Alright sorry I haven't posted any updates in a while, but with graduation and everything I wasn't really approaching too much, or when I did I wouldn't post it at least. But I'll talk about last night right now.

You ever have a night where you're just on fire, and you know you're on fire? Basically that was last night for me. Went to this bar to see one of my friend's bands. It was me and my guy friend, and these 2 girl friends we have. Anyways, before the band plays I go up and talk to the guys for a little bit because I was a bit drunk already, but I really didn't care and I was looking to have a good time.

Anyways, as I'm talking to these dudes, there it is, HB 9.5 walks past me and the group with some friend. Immediately me and my guy friend looked at each other like :D

Turns out a bit later they take a seat at the table right next to me, and I immediately open because I'm in a social mood.


Flint: Hey I'm Flint what's your names?

HB's tell me their names.

Flint: Awesome, well this is the party section you picked a great seat.


So then the band starts playing a song that basically everyone knows the words to but for a bit everyone was just listening to the song. So I said F it and I started singing as loud as I could. At first the HB's and my friends were laughing, and then soon everyone in the bar was singing along to this song. And that's basically how the evening went the entire time, I just kept singing and dancing and stuff and didn't care about anything.

At one point I was dancing and HB 9.5 was too, but her HB 5 friend was sort of emmotionless. So I went up to her and grabbed her arms and forced her to dance. Everybody was laughing and stuff but we were having a great time.

Later on at some point the girls were telling me they had booz in their car and I could join them if I wanted some. I was going to but I decided I was going to stay for the concert and just get their number later.

Anyways they come back and we're still having a great time, and it's crazy how when you're just in the zone like that everybody sees you differently. One of the girl friends I came in with who I know isn't into me was suddenly checking me out the entire night because she saw I was hitting it off real well with HB 9.5. Also there were these two 40 something year old women checking me out so I went over and flirted with them a little bit, not because I was interested but because its just how the convo went. I'm glad I did too because it was fun for me and I could tell they felt great having this young guy hitting on them.

Towards the end of the night I tried to number pull HB 9.5 or her friend but they said they were from really far away or something like that so they couldn't hang out. The other one said her phone wasn't working or something. I'm sure she was lying but I never saw her texting or anything so who knows. In any rate, my guy friend (who is much better at the game than me) was giving me props the entire night anyways because he thought that HB 9.5 was all over me. And again, it was crazy how I just walked into the bar and became like everyone's friend, and then to top it off this girl friend of mine who I see every day who isn't into me was suddenly like hunting for my attention because of it. It was hilarious because I would go do something and suddenly she was following me everywhere, and when I was hitting on HB 9.5 she would try and get me to dance with her or do something nuts to get my attention.


Anyways, sorry there isn't as much convo in this entry. I would've added more but I can't remember exactly how conversations went. It's like I said I just knew I was in the zone, and everyone was acting differently around me because of it. It was great and I had a fun time.

I think what I learned from this experience the most is that when you just let go and really don't care, you become on point. And also sometimes the guy who looks like he's doing the craziest things becomes the life of the party.
 

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Great man. I know the feeling, a lot of fun isn't it? Not giving a sh*t is awesome.

Later on at some point the girls were telling me they had booz in their car and I could join them if I wanted some. I was going to but I decided I was going to stay for the concert and just get their number later.
I think it would had been the best choice to go them at that point though! They invited you to go chill with them.
 
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