First date with an HB10

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I have a first date this weekend with a HB10. Matched with her online and ran elite text game on her. She is witty as hell and conversation was just awesome.

Here's the thing...this chick is 10 years than me, drop dead gorgeous and judging by her instagram she lives a pretty nice life.

Conversely, I pretty much have no social circle and nothing that represents high status.

I typically just date girls in the 7-8 range and just take them to dive bars or generic stuff like bowling, arcades ect

I wondering if I'm going to need to step up my game for this chick in terms of the type of dates I take her on. I imagin she has dated some pretty high status guys that buy her chit and take her to the best spots.

Or do I just say fuk it and take her to the same places I would take a normal chick.

Just looking for advice from guys that have dated 10's before.. especially guys that aren't high status or super good looking as I'm only like a 7 in terms of looks. Like I live in a big city so a chick like this would literally have 1000s of options. I'm not intimidated by her in any way...

I just look at the situation like she's a high school basketball star that will be recruited by all the top colleges and I'm more of an unranked local community college.

This isn't doubting my skills.. it's just being realistic of the situation and like I've said I've never been on a date with a 10 before so I don't know what to expect
 
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Instagram name please, i'll tell you if she is a 10
 

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I doubt she is a 10. A 10 would be not only perfect looking but also very famous or skilled. Realistically speaking - only celebrities.

You treat her like every other girl.
 

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What's a 10 is subjective. My 10 could be A 6 to you and vice versa.

As far as value, remember success is a journey not a destination. This is to say, if you are working towards certain goals than you should have the same confidence as if you completed them.


Are you working out?
Are you actively saving money?
Are you making solid career moves?
If you are a student, are you crushing it?

If you are dating 7-8s consistently in todays market, you are clearly handsome.

If so, you have a ton of value.
You just don't realize it.


Furthermore, obviously you don't want to put her on a pedastool. So, if YOU like dive bars and simple places by all means take her. If she doesn't like it or feels she should get a $200 restaurant experience on the first date tell her Cola said eat a d*ck.
 

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Forget about her looks as far as possible. It sounds like you know how to handle women and have fun dates so just go along like you always do.

Reminds me of a 9-10 I dated a few years back. She was an Abercrombie model, chemistry student and competition show-jumper. And a really fun girl in general. Unfortunately it turned out she was addicted to energy drinks and basically never slept. She was trying to take me to high end clubs at 2am on a week day morning, which I wouldn't have minded, but my work schedule and living wage would never have accommodated it.

Thing is neither my value nor lifestyle could match hers. She did seem in to me for a while though, but we both knew that I couldn't keep up with her. Of course now she's living the life with some millionaire bf. I'm not bitter about it, just realistic.

If you are a fun guy and your lifestyle is closely aligned with hers, there's really no reason it won't be great.
 
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Firstly, a 10 isn't just based on looks. It's a complete package, someone who's well established and flawless. However, what a 10 should look like is highly debatable, so rather stick to 9 or 9.5

Secondly, don't lose frame because of looks. If you were able to get a date from her it means you have decent game, you're different from her usual pursuers. Keep doing you.
 

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Wait, OP is declaring her a 10 without ever having met her?? Has he ever heard of Photoshop? He might be interacting with a man for all he knows!

Does her photo score rate 100 on photofeeler, combined? Not a ten then.

Ten years older or younger? Dumb question I guess, we'll assume there are no tens ten years older than anyone on SS.

I had exactly one date with a girl who I thought was a HB10, in 2003. It was a Saturday night, I got her home in my apartment, it was 0 degrees outside, and instead of cuddling I was too nervous to make a move and walked her to her car and got the cheek (pity peck). Never saw her again. Venus favors the bold. That said, I had her best friend (HB9) within a week, and the (then) love of my life a month later. Women usually come in flocks, so you often have the one that got away in close proximity to your favorite.
 

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I have a first date this weekend with a HB10. Matched with her online and ran elite text game on her. She is witty as hell and conversation was just awesome.

Here's the thing...this chick is 10 years than me, drop dead gorgeous and judging by her instagram she lives a pretty nice life.

Conversely, I pretty much have no social circle and nothing that represents high status.

I typically just date girls in the 7-8 range and just take them to dive bars or generic stuff like bowling, arcades ect

I wondering if I'm going to need to step up my game for this chick in terms of the type of dates I take her on. I imagin she has dated some pretty high status guys that buy her chit and take her to the best spots.

Or do I just say fuk it and take her to the same places I would take a normal chick.

Just looking for advice from guys that have dated 10's before.. especially guys that aren't high status or super good looking as I'm only like a 7 in terms of looks. Like I live in a big city so a chick like this would literally have 1000s of options. I'm not intimidated by her in any way...

I just look at the situation like she's a high school basketball star that will be recruited by all the top colleges and I'm more of an unranked local community college.

This isn't doubting my skills.. it's just being realistic of the situation and like I've said I've never been on a date with a 10 before so I don't know what to expect

she buys into your frame not the other way around

you have to maintain that mentality or you will get sucked into insecurity

doesn't matter what she's "used" too
 

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I have a first date this weekend with a HB10. Matched with her online and ran elite text game on her. She is witty as hell and conversation was just awesome.

Here's the thing...this chick is 10 years than me, drop dead gorgeous and judging by her instagram she lives a pretty nice life.

Conversely, I pretty much have no social circle and nothing that represents high status.

I typically just date girls in the 7-8 range and just take them to dive bars or generic stuff like bowling, arcades ect

I wondering if I'm going to need to step up my game for this chick in terms of the type of dates I take her on. I imagin she has dated some pretty high status guys that buy her chit and take her to the best spots.

Or do I just say fuk it and take her to the same places I would take a normal chick.

Just looking for advice from guys that have dated 10's before.. especially guys that aren't high status or super good looking as I'm only like a 7 in terms of looks. Like I live in a big city so a chick like this would literally have 1000s of options. I'm not intimidated by her in any way...

I just look at the situation like she's a high school basketball star that will be recruited by all the top colleges and I'm more of an unranked local community college.

This isn't doubting my skills.. it's just being realistic of the situation and like I've said I've never been on a date with a 10 before so I don't know what to expect
You treat the '10s' the same as everyone else.

Your message reeked of her being the prize and she will smell the desperation coming off of you.

You treat all girls the same. If you were the prize then you would not care if she is a 5 a 6 a 7 or 10 as you say.
 

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@finality, I recently dated a very attractive girl. She gets propositioned all the time. She's been with high society guys that socialize at all of the "uppity/trendy" 5-Star restaurants/bars. They bought her expensive jewelry and trips. One of her ex's was a top level NHL hockey player.

I'm totally not that type of guy and didn't pretend to be either. It was a concern of mine and made me wonder what she wanted with me, but I didn't let it bother me. I'm just a regular down to earth guy. I took her too the same places I take all the girls and it worked out great.

Be true to yourself, do your thing. If she likes who you are and what you have to offer then great, if not then she isn't your type. Don't give her any special treatment just because she is hot.
 
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I have a first date this weekend with a HB10. Matched with her online and ran elite text game on her. She is witty as hell and conversation was just awesome.

Here's the thing...this chick is 10 years than me, drop dead gorgeous and judging by her instagram she lives a pretty nice life.

Conversely, I pretty much have no social circle and nothing that represents high status.

I typically just date girls in the 7-8 range and just take them to dive bars or generic stuff like bowling, arcades ect

I wondering if I'm going to need to step up my game for this chick in terms of the type of dates I take her on. I imagin she has dated some pretty high status guys that buy her chit and take her to the best spots.

Or do I just say fuk it and take her to the same places I would take a normal chick.

Just looking for advice from guys that have dated 10's before.. especially guys that aren't high status or super good looking as I'm only like a 7 in terms of looks. Like I live in a big city so a chick like this would literally have 1000s of options. I'm not intimidated by her in any way...

I just look at the situation like she's a high school basketball star that will be recruited by all the top colleges and I'm more of an unranked local community college.

This isn't doubting my skills.. it's just being realistic of the situation and like I've said I've never been on a date with a 10 before so I don't know what to expect
How to date any woman, regardless of her degree of attractiveness.

1. Know and remember she's flawed.
2. Do not put her on a pedestal.
3. Do not put yourself down.
4. Do not assume anything about her.
5. The way to keep a hot girl is to treat her like any other person, plus busting her b@lls a bit more than other people.

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This girl you're mentioning is NOT a 10. She has a lot tricks to enhance her looks, including but not limited to:

1. Make up
2. Heeled shoes
3. Hair with beauty products
4. Clothes that hide her flaws
5. Ways to hide her insecurities.

Instagram pictures aren't representative of life. People post what they want to be perceived a certain way, especially women.

You're already putting her on a pedestal by falsely believing she's a social queen and you're a social reject. She takes a dump, farts, has issues, regrets, etc. just like all the rest of us. She may be a weirdo with no real friends and you may actually have more. These thoughts you're having are psychologically known as "The Halo Effect," falsely believing a person must have several other things going for her because of her attractiveness, which is completely inaccurate.

You're putting her on a pedestal again by thinking she has 1,000s of options. Maybe she doesn't. Maybe she has an STI. Maybe she has daddy issues. Maybe somewhere there's some dude tired of her sh!t and issues. And even if she had options, she chose YOU to go on a date. She wants your bones. She wants you to be bold, to kiss her, to be confident, not to write a thread on a forum doubting yourself and asking for special instructions on how to handle her. It's simple, you treat her like any other chick--nothing special. You are valuable. You have things going on for yourself. You have a lot to offer.

By now, I have lost count of how many times you have put her on a pedestal. She's not a basketball star and you're not a nobody. Dude, literally the number one threat to you failing with this chick is your psychology and inferiority complex. You don't think you're good enough for her. She's just skin, flesh, bones and a human being. You've no idea who she has dated. Maybe all she's had are losers and you're her best guy--ever think about that?

This date is ending with a VIP ticket to the friend zone, unless you get your inner game in check. Not trying to bash you, but you gotta know before you go. The way you're writing tells me you're going to behave like every other white knight she's gone out with. And if a guy reading your writing on a screen can pick up on your insecurity, you absolutely know she'll pick up on it like a shark picks up on blood.

1.Stand out from the herd
2. Hit the gym
3. Make a list of all the good things you have going on for yourself
4. Be skeptical of this girl and unsure of whether you want to see her again unless she proves herself with great character
5. You're money
6. You're awesome
7. You're capable
8. I dare you to post a picture of this chick so that you see she's not a 10.

End of story. Keep moving forward.
 
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1. Turn the tease factor up to 11
2. Call her on her bull**** 24/7
 

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The last thing a HB10 wants is a dude who can't look past beyond her looks.

I'd say take her to your normal locations, as @deesade says "Beauty is just a sh!t test". Ask personal questions, be interested in getting to know her as a person. Basically treat her like your bratty little sister.

Also don't forget you have a d!ck, she already knows you want to bang her. Don't hide it or you will fvck this up completely.
 
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