A very many of you guys are treading dangerous AFC ground here with your advice on flowers. It started off in this thread with a simple exception, and snow balled until it became a hellish yeti of AFC behavior.
Follow the DJ Bible to a 't' in this case. The only way that Pancho and Don_juan avoided this territory was the way it was pulled of and the intentions involved.
Don uses it to take her off the pedastal, and place himself firmly in her stead there, and Pancho creates a playful challenge. (notice it was done AFTER she had shown a very high interest level, and he was simply teasing her, making her more anxious. AND it was on a THIRD date, which is also affectionately known as the "lay date".) And so I stand by my earlier assertion that what these two men did was an element of DJ style, however...
All this stuff about good breeding, and flowers starting with the same letter as her name is anethema to a newbie , and as I said before,you must know the rules well enough (which effectively translates to using them well enough and long enough to understand WHY they're there,and why they work.) to challenge them. And so, until you have firmly established yourself as a DJ, do not even CONSIDER flowers for any reason (save if she's in the hospital with a terminal illness, etc., etc...) And even then you must pause enough to ask yourself what message you're actually sending, and the REAL reason you're doing it.
So newbies, take head, it is a CAPITOL DJ offense to give a flower(s) before the two/three month mark, let alone on a first date, so stay away until you become a true DJ yourself. Also, some of the guys on here might need to reevaluate their AFC/DJ status. Best of luck in life and love brothers.
-CyranoDeBergerac
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"If we are to change the world we must start with that one corner of it over which we excercise full influence...ourselves."
Of mice and men...which are you?
[This message has been edited by CyranoDeBergerac (edited 08-11-2002).]
