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Mex

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I just stumbled across this forum a week ago. This is my first post as a Don Juanabee. Please comment on my mistakes.

Scenario: College cafeteria. I intentionally went at a time when it is crowded. Each table seats four, but usually there is one person per table. Since there were no available tables, I found an hb7 and said "mind if I join?" She said yes although I did not wait for a response. She was reading and I pulled out my book as if I was finishing a last minute assignment. After about a minute, I struck convo. "What are you reading?" then about a minute of usual convo. She mentioned she wanted to do something in fashion for a career. I saw this as an opportunity. My sister's b-day is coming up so I told her I would like her to help me pick out something nice for my sister's b-day? She was pretty resistant but I went ahead and told me to give me her #. I handed her my cell but she said she would not type it in so she told me and I typed it in (mistake I know). She gave the fake # routine and I caught her out. I told her she gave me the wrong # and she acted surprised. Then I told her I intentionally repeated it back incorrectly. I started laughing at her then went back to reading my notes.

30 seconds later I said "You did not have to lie". I know she felt bad since the only reason she gave me the wrong # is because she did not want to hurt my feelings in the first place. I told her she would not hurt my feelings iby being honost. I played the guilt card and smiled at her. She then started being very nice. Then her bf showed up. I stayed at the table with them. I introduced myself to the bf but that was it. Eventually they left.

I made other mistakes during the sarge such as: some points of not knowing what to say, leaning in close, and failed miserably with the negs.

Should I have told the bf that his girlfriend needs to learn how to turn down guys that hit on her? I am thinking if I did this in front of her she would think I have balls of steel, and this may have compensated for my earlier mistakes. At the time I did not think of this since I am new to the game.
 

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looks like she gave you a fake cause she had a bf or you guys didnt build up enough of a connection for her to give it to you. You might of asked too soon. Did you guys get to know eachother well? good job on the fake number check though hahah

if she is a quality girl, you have to work on her for a while before you ask her out even if shes into you (she doesnt want to look like a slut)

if she looks slutty, shell just give you her number without much work if shes somewhat into you.

deal with different type of girls accordingly. ;)
 

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Tear Gas said:
looks like she gave you a fake cause she had a bf or you guys didnt build up enough of a connection for her to give it to you. You might of asked too soon. Did you guys get to know eachother well? good job on the fake number check though hahah
I don't know if I knew her chatted her up enough to get a good connection, I just thought that particular point was a good time to ask. Like I said, I am new to the game and have a lot to learn.

I really felt good about calling her out on the fake #. Otherwise, if I called and found out it was fake I would have felt stupid. But instead I made her feel stupid. So even though this attempt was a failure in terms of closing, I feel successful in the fact that I kept my dignity and gained a tiny bit of experience.

Any other comments are very much appreciated!
 

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Mex said:
I don't know if I knew her chatted her up enough to get a good connection, I just thought that particular point was a good time to ask. Like I said, I am new to the game and have a lot to learn.

I really felt good about calling her out on the fake #. Otherwise, if I called and found out it was fake I would have felt stupid. But instead I made her feel stupid. So even though this attempt was a failure in terms of closing, I feel successful in the fact that I kept my dignity and gained a tiny bit of experience.

Any other comments are very much appreciated!
Im guilty of asking a girl her number after only talking for like two minutes. Even if she does give you her real number, the chances of her going out with you are slim. After a while you get a better feel of when or if to ask for the digits and have a higher success rate.

You have to also learn about body language and signs if shes feeling you. Some girls just arnt shallow and give any hot guys their number. They like to get to know you first. Gj on trying though, just learn from this experience and keep on trying. :up:
 
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Tear Gas said:
looks like she gave you a fake cause she had a bf or you guys didnt build up enough of a connection for her to give it to you. You might of asked too soon. Did you guys get to know eachother well? good job on the fake number check though hahah

if she is a quality girl, you have to work on her for a while before you ask her out even if shes into you (she doesnt want to look like a slut)

if she looks slutty, shell just give you her number without much work if shes somewhat into you.

deal with different type of girls accordingly. ;)
Ditto
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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Dang I got to say that is totally better then my first attempt! lol I barely started myself and it's good your still in school , so many potential so little time! Now I wish I was still in school instead of counting the seconds of when it was over! Good luck and ya you should have furthered the convo more maybe ask her for tips on what is in this season or whatever, plus I would have said that to her BF I doubt he would have gotten mad and you could have made a new friend. Good luck again lol.
 

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You did a good job sitting next to a new girl that you didn't know, believe it or not, most guys have never done this. So good job on having some balls to approach in a crowded environment like that.

It sounds like your conversation went pretty well, but I probably would have up and left before you did. I don't waste my time on girls who don't have a high interest level. 90% of the time, if a girl acts uninterested in you it's some reason outside your control (if you're a cool guy and play your game right). Sounds like the reason she didn't give you her number was because her she had a boyfriend around.

Don't make a tool out of yourself and say "your gf needs to learn how to turn guys down." If you (someone I didn't know) said that to me I would probably get in your face about it. Also, remember that just because you get a phone number doesn't necessarily mean anything. I've gotten so many numbers that have resulted in nothing in the past year or so. If you're cool, most girls will give you their number even if they have boyfriends.

Good job though, sounds like you just happened to walk into an unfavorable situation from the start. Hey, it happens.
 

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Good job approaching, as everyone else has said.

Very quick on the 'let's do stuff together' bit. A little more conversation and relating next time.

I suggest you just start by talking with women. If you tried to neg, you probably sounded like an ass, but then again, all but the most masterfully done negs sound like ass comments to me.

All seduction begins with a conversation. You must be able to converse and connect with the woman before you can seduce her. Talk to women, men, everyone, start working on becoming a charming guy, and the women will come.

Oh, and great job starting early. I had no idea how to pick up women - none at all - on my 25th birthday.
 

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awesome man... I love how you kept plowing through her even though you could tell she was resistant... Thats VERY important! If you're already doing that you're going to be a dangerous DJ soon :cool:
 

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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I will keep posting as I get more attempts in.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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